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Umm.. what colour are Iron Bull eye´s? (Well, yeah the only one he has xd)  Green maybe? Didn´t pay enough attention. Need the info for my fic lol.

As for his age... early 30´s sounds about right to me. I am 29, so it suits me well....  :wub:

 

Apparently the writers peg him as mid to late 30s but this is your fic so canon whatever you want  :)

 

You know I'm not sure about his eye color. I never really paid attention. I'm assuming dark brown or black.

 

 

 

EDIT: I take it back. Maybe his eye is like hazel-green? My eyes are seeing a tinge of brown in there. Maybe I'm just sleepy... :lol:


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Apparently the writers peg him as mid to late 30s but this is your fic so canon whatever you want  :)

 

You know I'm not sure about his eye color. I never really paid attention. I'm assuming dark brown or black.

 

 

 

EDIT: I take it back. Maybe his eye is like hazel-green? My eyes are seeing a tinge of brown in there. Maybe I'm just sleepy... :lol:

 

 

While age is not important for the fic, it helps all the previous experience....in ..um certain fields, so he can show me, and his loyal pupil learns every single

lesson  <3, I´ve just choosen an age I´d confortable with :). As for the eye..... I might end using hazel-green or olive-green... yes, that should work :P


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#11303
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Is that smut I hear knocking on the fic door Mengor???  ^_^  :lol:


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Is that smut I hear knocking on the fic door Mengor???  ^_^  :lol:

 

Yeah, pretty much :wub: . I could add only a few lines and modified a couple of things..... but the hardest part will be indeed when I reach the romantic atmosphere...I want to tell him many beautiful things (also add some messy things lol) and I do not know where to start...Maybe I should wait a bit more, when I suffer another sudden outbreak  :whistle:. Plus, there is many real-life stuff going around here which won´t allow me to concentrate. One thing is sure though, my  :wizard: can´t wait :D!!


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#11305
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In my Qunari quizzy PT, Bull and Cole just had their banter where Bull had taken a hit for Cole and told Cole he was his weird, squirrely kid and could have one handed pats on the back.

Now I'm filled with fuzzy Bull feelings and want to write a fluffy Bull fic  ^_^

 

 

Best buddies

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http://inquissien.tu...d-the-iron-bull

 

 

More Cole and Bull pics for my fuzzies I'm feeling right now

Cole and Bull shenanigans

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http://serenity-fail.../dressed-2-kill

 

Cole tells a joke

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http://guiltyaspie.t...e-cracks-a-joke

 

Bull and Cole have breakfast

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continued at http://minatla.tumbl...breakfast-bread

 

Definitely friends

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http://riverhailed.t...ros-4-lyfe-bruh

 


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"Is that a croissant?" "No, it's you The Iron Bull"

 

Cole is a precious little bean you can't convince me otherwise.

 

Also, that Qun fic I'm writing: I'm about done with the first chapter and hoping to have it up by this week or the next. I'm leaving next friday for a cruise so I won't be able to work on it until I get back otherwise.


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"Is that a croissant?" "No, it's you The Iron Bull"

 

Cole is a precious little bean you can't convince me otherwise.

 

Also, that Qun fic I'm writing: I'm about done with the first chapter and hoping to have it up by this week or the next. I'm leaving next friday for a cruise so I won't be able to work on it until I get back otherwise.

I finally got to look over the rest of your storyboard today, (how terrible is that? I need more free time!), and I'm looking forward to how you write it out, it will definitely be interesting! Your grasp on the Qun and Qunari related things is far stronger than my own, haha.

 

This is what has been floating around my head recently, while I work on my OT3 related things. I can't get a break, I'm not even done storyboarding out what I'm currently working on before these other little ideas start popping up. >.> Oh well, my current work went from having not a whole lot of plot related things to..plot related things. Which is a curse, because now I need to sort out how to line it all out.

 

And not near enough time to devote to it, haha.


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I finally got to look over the rest of your storyboard today, (how terrible is that? I need more free time!), and I'm looking forward to how you write it out, it will definitely be interesting! Your grasp on the Qun and Qunari related things is far stronger than my own, haha.

 

This is what has been floating around my head recently, while I work on my OT3 related things. I can't get a break, I'm not even done storyboarding out what I'm currently working on before these other little ideas start popping up. >.> Oh well, my current work went from having not a whole lot of plot related things to..plot related things. Which is a curse, because now I need to sort out how to line it all out.

 

And not near enough time to devote to it, haha.

 

I started tearing up reading that Sui! Almost-tears of pain and joy and now I need that fic. I'd love to see the OT3 in your scenario.

 

Poor Cole and Bull took over my brain so my smut & angst fics were pushed to the side for all things fluffy. I have a fluffy cocoa piece and a "we should maybe talk about our feelings" piece going. I haven't decided if the talk fic will be all fluff or a little fluff and smut. 

 

 

I created a new PT to grab my nightmare trophy on PS4. Dhreya Trev will be my aggressive character. She's a mage who hated having to go to the Circle as a child and now hates being called the Herald. She's basically a bucket of sunshine and rainbows. She has yet to net any approvals from the crew, only disapprovals :lol:.

I was going to go no romance for her based on some of the personality traits I canoned but now I think she should be with IB. I think he can get beneath the ferocious tiger exterior to a fluffy little housecat inside...maybe. And I want to relive his romance scenes (my early Cadash ones were saved over  :()



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I finally got to look over the rest of your storyboard today, (how terrible is that? I need more free time!), and I'm looking forward to how you write it out, it will definitely be interesting! Your grasp on the Qun and Qunari related things is far stronger than my own, haha.

 

 

Aw thanks. Really, I just went with both headcanons and the things went by in the game. Qunari are dicks okay.



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This is what has been floating around my head recently, while I work on my OT3 related things. I can't get a break, I'm not even done storyboarding out what I'm currently working on before these other little ideas start popping up. >.> Oh well, my current work went from having not a whole lot of plot related things to..plot related things. Which is a curse, because now I need to sort out how to line it all out.

 

And not near enough time to devote to it, haha.

I really hope you find enough time to write that one, Sui! I'd love to read it! I'm jealous of all your bunnies :P  It's so hard for me to think of writing ideas.

Also, it is my headcanon that my Adaar, when deep in her cups, refers to Dorian as her "Tiny Tevinter" whilst hugging him to her ample bosom. So Lavellan as Tiny Tama? :wub:


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Tiny Tevinter <3 That is adorable, I really like that idea. x3

 

People on Tumblr are being mean and posting their "And then Iron Bull turned out to be actually just that good of a Ben-Hassrath agent and was just a sleeper-agent in the Inquisition the whole time!" head cannons, and it's making that evil evil plot bunny I had a while back come up again. AND SWEET'S QUNSHIT STORYBOARD DIDNT HELP EITHER.

 

*flail* I don't have enough time to write all these things!

 

And there's little snippets of the World of Thedas articles on Iron Bull and Dorian coming out and OH GOD ALL THE FEELS MUH POOR BABIES. ;w; Iron Bull spent 10 years getting crapped on in Seheron when most people can survive two at max, that's just ....aaaagggh.

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My preorder of this book cannot get here fast enough. D8


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We will need many, many fluffy Bull fics to counter all this angst you all are conjuring up.  :P

 

Gah! I can't wait until my preorder arrives too.

And an idea for a fic just popped into mind reading that snippet you posted. Off to outline!



#11313
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"The day he saw it in himself" Oh wow, hints at what finally made him break? And more than a decade, geez! I'm going to have to get that book, just for that. And that bit about the meat made me laugh. When one of my sons was in kindergarten, the teacher had books they were allowed to borrow and take home to read. He got one of those books and sold it to another kid for 50 cents, so I know the feeling of exasperation and pride (my little entrepreneur/conman!) at some of the stuff one's children can get up to.

 

As far as Bull being that good of a spy, I really could see that happening if he stayed in the Qun. The way it talks about his reports being his lifeline only seems to add evidence to that. I don't think there's any way if he becomes TV, though. He's got too many people to show him that he has it within himself to keep that under control, Qun or not.


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http://suicausa.tumb...0523/so-hissrad

This was my response to that head cannon on tumblr, I posted a little snippet of that terrible idea that's been floating around.

 

I think for the next little bit I need to just sit down and storyboard out my ideas and get them all figured out. Then I can eenie-meenie-minee-moe to pick which one I'm going to work on first or something.

 

I had started storyboarding my OT3 one, but now I've decided it's going to have some more things than I expected with Lavellan's clan and it's situation in Wycome and that sort of thing. So I need to ...re-storyboard now to allow for that haha. God damn it. *shakes fist at the world*

 

I just want to read Iron Bull fluff and be happy. Why does my brain and the world torture me like this!

 

Edit:

Dorian's article in the World of Thedas thing is how he basically started lashing out, getting drunk and sleeping his way across Tevinter in a debased alcoholic haze to spite his father. Totally gives you something to sink your teeth into at just how troubled that boy was. The pretty mask wasn't always there, he's had some time and motivation to really work on it when he started pulling his life around.

 

And after 10 years in Seheron, I don't think it would take our little Iron Bull very long to see right through it, start poking buttons and seeing what happens. Knowing all this just makes me love those two even more, god. These two could help each other deal with so much **** and love each other despite it. <3


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I have to wonder, why is Bull so submissive towards Vivienne?

He already started calling her "ma'am" in their first interaction in party banter. And every conversation after that boils down to the Iron Bull meekly accepting whatever Vivienne says after trying to argue something.

Is he intimidated by her wealth and status? What gives?
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I've thought about that before. Honestly, I think Viv may give off a 'Tama' vibe to him.

She is a fairly assertive woman (in kinder words than some would use) and her assertiveness might trigger it. Their banter does veer towards caring in their own weird way after a while [to me] so I have no issues with it.

I have headcanoned that he and Viv meet in her sitting room once a week for tea and little cakes  :lol:


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Yeah I think it's just the fact that Vivienne acts like she expects that kind of behavior, which is a very Tamassaran thing to do. And for Qunari, respecting one's Tamassaran is second nature, so it's probably pretty easy to fall into.

 

When you read the little excerpts from his World of Thedas entry, if he's clinging on to his little lifelines to the Qun, treating a Tama with respect is probably right up there with comforts and memories of home, haha.


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Denise one question, apart from the health bar. Can you also hide the skill bar? I fancy trying Flycam at wilderness. I wanna catch my mage and him in action. (During my last try I forgot to remove the option for dmg numbers, so yeah a whole mess lol)

 

I have to wonder, why is Bull so submissive towards Vivienne?

He already started calling her "ma'am" in their first interaction in party banter. And every conversation after that boils down to the Iron Bull meekly accepting whatever Vivienne says after trying to argue something.

Is he intimidated by her wealth and status? What gives?

 

I actually find kind of fun his attitude towards Viv, and how he pisses her off xD. You know, that way you can see Iron Bull in both opposite behaviours :)

Dominating vs Submissive

 

As for Cole.... I don´t know lol he is so freaking weird....I cant even select him at Corifeus fight :o. I wonder....

 

Sui, glad to see you around here!! Didn´t know you had a blog O_O, I have to check it xd. Arrggg wanna do so many "Iron Bull things" but I can´t decide the order  :rolleyes:



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People on Tumblr are being mean and posting their "And then Iron Bull turned out to be actually just that good of a Ben-Hassrath agent and was just a sleeper-agent in the Inquisition the whole time!" head cannons, and it's making that evil evil plot bunny I had a while back come up again. AND SWEET'S QUNSHIT STORYBOARD DIDNT HELP EITHER.

 

 

 

Yeeees, YES! LET THE EVIL FLOW IN YOU!

 

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(and I love how people are using my joke title as if it was the real thing omg)

 

And that headcanon is interesting but I don't see it working if he is already declared Tal-Vashoth for real. Because by that point, that choice he (or the Quizzy made so to speak, but he WANTED to save his men so he made up his mind, it was his/her choice to agree with Bull's) made shows he rather be The Iron Bull than Hissrad. He hated his role under the Qun, and snapped in Seharon for whatever reason it may be. I have a feeling it has something to do with kids being how much seeing such things with little children not even in their teens lying on the ground dead shows he has a soft spot for them and NO ONE SHOULD HURT A CHILD OR UNCLE BULL IS GOING TO RIP YOUR ASS APART.

 

This is a headcanon I like a lot: Bull was sent up to kill a group of Tal-Vashoth who had children with them. However, these weren't your 'salvage' tal-vashoths. These were normal Qunari only that they were trying to live away from the Qun and follow their own path, raising there own family and falling in love. However, he had his orders and as much as he felt conflicted and confused, he didn't flinch. He struck all the adults down and kept the children alive, ordered to gather them up to be sent to Pal Vollen. All of them were either crying, calling out 'mom' and/or 'dad' asking them to wake up and the men Hissrad was with grabbed them away and rounded them up to him, it felt wrong. Seeing them unhappy, calling out to the Tal-vashoth that were like their parents. And he killed them. And when he woked up the next day, he couldn't think of a damn reason to keep doing his job. So he turned himself in and they ordered him to go to  mainland Thedas and play Merc as a spy.

 

To me, Bull is bound to crack again if he stays with the Qun. He questions it too much and with such a strong mind; they'll have to really try hard to make him behave without forcing their hands on using Qmamk.  And the more he keeps sending himself to the Re-educators, the more they're going to be like 'this tool is no longer useful to us' and well...you can see where this is going. And while yes, I do see if they ask him to do something he'll not be happy with (being at this point, all that's left is Hissrad and the Qun), he'll do it. It'll hurt him, but he'll do it. But with the guilt piling up over more guilt; it'll be too much and he'll lose himself under stress.

 

If they asked him to kill the Inquisitor and HE was in a relationship with them (I do believe those feelings he has for him/her we're real), he'll do what the 'Qun demands' of him but it'll kill him inside (I can hear him saying quietly that "I'm sorry" before or after killing them and falling down on his knees once it's done) because one of the most important things to him that he had left, is now gone. And even worse, by his own hands.

 

(And I hope I made you all sad. It's my job after all)

 

But if he chose his men over the Qun and the Qunari said "Hey, you want to be Qunari again, do this!" He'll be like "nah I'm good" And then rides off on a battlenug with his Tal-Vashoth Seerbas girlfriend while both flipping them off to get some food! Um...I was going somewhere with this, right?

 

But yet again, even for a spy, he never seemed to lie to the Inquisitor. He his romance path if he sticks with the Qun he seems honest. Yes, you could say he's that damn good of spy, which he is, but I feel he doesn't like to unless has to. Grated, when the time comes, he'll likely do what he has to. But still, he's...pretty open for someone undercover.

 

I have to wonder, why is Bull so submissive towards Vivienne?

 

She's his mother that's way.

 

Also: The meat thing. Looks like little!Bull was also a little !s**t. Love it.


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#11320
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Alright Sui and Sweet, I see the fluff needs to get rolling soon. Between you two, I'm going to shed actual tears and I don't wanna  :P  :lol:


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Alright Sui and Sweet, I see the fluff needs to get rolling soon. Between you two, I'm going to shed actual tears and I don't wanna  :P  :lol:

 

That's my job. Making everyone shed tears and want to roll around in them. 

 

And I got a fluffy idea going. Whether I writing it or not depends on when I get the chance (Tal-Vashoth!Bull this time around thankfully)



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Denise one question, apart from the health bar. Can you also hide the skill bar? I fancy trying Flycam at wilderness. I wanna catch my mage and him in action. (During my last try I forgot to remove the option for dmg numbers, so yeah a whole mess lol)

 

If you're using the DAI cinematic tool, (dunno if there are other flycam type tools, but just in case) hitting the delete key will remove the entire interface. It helps to pause also, so you can move the cam around and get decent angles. One thing I noticed was that the vanilla game has some kind of motion blur or something during fights. I started using ReShade and my screenshots are a lot clearer now.


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More puppy!fic here: http://archiveofouro...g/works/3764368

 

This one is Ataashi and Sera. Now that the little attention hog is sated for the time being, I'm going to start working on my Chargers/Valo-kas story.


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More puppy!fic here: http://archiveofouro...g/works/3764368

 

This one is Ataashi and Sera. Now that the little attention hog is sated for the time being, I'm going to start working on my Chargers/Valo-kas story.

 

I'll read this in a bit.

 

Also, if you don't add some comment about one of the Valo-Kas' name being 'Katoh', I'm going to be disappointed. (seriously, say your friend's name which is also your safeword has to be unconformable) 


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I'll read this in a bit.

 

Also, if you don't add some comment about one of the Valo-Kas' name being 'Katoh', I'm going to be disappointed. (seriously, say your friend's name which is also your safeword has to be unconformable) 

Oh, yes. That one is too good to leave alone. I just wish I knew with certainty what it meant.


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