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I need a link to that hair mod.

 

Like...really.

 

Edit: Also yeah the IB is problematic. All of the characters have issues. (And it never ceases to amuse me how those people tend to be the biggest fans of other characters with issues but those characters are just fine~)


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#12377
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...it appears that the mod author has removed it off of tumblr at the moment, so no link is available. D: 

 

It's my favorite hair ever, though. <3 Gives Iron Bull something to sink his hands into? Haha!


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#12378
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

*cries forever*

 

Curses. Oh wellz. I'll live. *pouts*

 

And yeah I really wanted some nice long hair. Something for Bull to yank on <3



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When were "social justice" types allegedly hating on Iron Bull? Any links?

 

I ask because I'm curious about people who both love and hate Iron Bull, since I do neither.



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Gonna put these under a spoiler 'cause of size:

 

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To the question above: Lots of people took issue that Bull won't change the dynamics of the romance for quizzy. They claimed there was no way he knew what they needed better than they did. And then there was the Adoribull romance that set a lot of people off. Said Bull was abusive to Dorian, and if I remember correctly, a few were even claiming he was some kind of closet rapist or something because alcohol was involved when he and Dorian hooked up the first time.


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Gonna put these under a spoiler 'cause of size:

 

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To the question above: Lots of people took issue that Bull won't change the dynamics of the romance for quizzy. They claimed there was no way he knew what they needed better than they did. And then there was the Adoribull romance that set a lot of people off. Said Bull was abusive to Dorian, and if I remember correctly, a few were even claiming he was some kind of closet rapist or something because alcohol was involved when he and Dorian hooked up the first time.

Well, I personally would not ever date anyone who would refuse anything except domming, so I find it hard to blame people there.

 

Also, where did you get the hair mod? I confess that it's tempting.



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I don't blame them either. If that's not your thing, that's what the break-up option is for. Hit it and move on. I don't understand how that makes him a horrible character.

 

Er, which one? I've got three of them there.



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I don't blame them either. If that's not your thing, that's what the break-up option is for. Hit it and move on. I don't understand how that makes him a horrible character.

 

Er, which one? I've got three of them there.

Any of them.



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Denise your Qunari are beautiful!

 

My qunari ladies end up looking...odd. :unsure:


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Long hair: http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/645/?

Ellemetalist's qunari hair: http://ellementalist...onger-hair-side

Long braid: http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/853/?


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Denise your Qunari are beautiful!

 

My qunari ladies end up looking...odd. :unsure:

 

Denise your Qunari are beautiful!

 

My qunari ladies end up looking...odd. :unsure:

Thank you! Lots of practice, I guess, and some lovely mods.  I have a hard time playing anything else. I really hope they have qunari as an option in DA4


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Thank you! Lots of practice, I guess, and some lovely mods.  I have a hard time playing anything else. I really hope they have qunari as an option in DA4

 

I hope if they do they do them them better than Inquisition. Better dialogue and camera treatment would be nice :( My qunari playthroughs were underwhelming to say the least.



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Well, being we're all showing off our Quizzies, here's my bby:

 

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Mai Pride and Joy: Herah "gonna throw a a fireball in your face" Adaar.


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Seeing all these hair mods makes me wonder all over again why the guys getting paid to do it at BioWare can't do it or don't want to do it.

 

It doesn't really affect me personally since I only play guys with short hair and am okay with a few of the short hair options.  But still.


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#12390
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Seeing all these hair mods makes me wonder all over again why the guys getting paid to do it at BioWare can't do it or don't want to do it.

 

It doesn't really affect me personally since I only play guys with short hair and am okay with a few of the short hair options.  But still.

Hair mods are used solely by those who don't care about clipping.



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I suspect milkeye is referring to the "I can't respect Bull anymore" thread.

 

There was another similar one too.  I haven't spent much time in those threads. I said my piece and left. 

 

 

Those certainly, yes, among others.

 

 

Oh believe me I know that feel. This place has been a haven in the storm of bull hate many times for me.

 

And I will never understand.

 

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I am...rather guilty of this...

 

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My rogue Inquisitor in my current playthrough...

 

Not to be confused with

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My knight enchanter inquisitor canon playthrough.

 

...I literally just play clones at this point. >_>;; (THE MASSIVE EARS ARE SLIGHTLY LESS MASSIVE ON ONE, THAT SHOULD COUNT FOR SOMETHING RIGHT? IT CHANGES EVERYTHING, RIGHT?)

 

More on topic:

I'm 100% sure that the qunari saying that they weren't in leauge with Viddisalad are literally just doing damage control. As players we enjoy the ability to meta game, and if you look at both endings and the way that the qunari are acting, it's pretty clear that they supported Viddisalad until they realized that her plan was failing, in which case they threw her onto the pyre and salvaged the alliance the best they could to avoid an Exalted March. They wanted a quick and easy win, it was a possibility, when it stopped being a possibility they went back to their alternate plans.

 

The Qunari allying themselves with the Southern Chantry? Yeah, that's not going to work out. It's just not. Anyone who believes they are are deluding themselves.

 

As for Iron Bull, his qun!ending is just ridiculously sad because it shows how powerfuly the Qun brainwashes their followers. Iron Bull had an absolutely beautiful personality, he fought through Seheron for 10 years for the Qun, he used his mind to think and survive and make descisions and save lives, and then he gets an order to basically kill himself from his superior and he follows it without even the slightest bit of hesitation. It really hurts to see what the Qunari do to one of the tools that has been so loyal to them for so long.

 

Only option is to break Iron Bull off the Qun and give him a chance to be better. Thankfully we all know how amazing TalVashoth!Iron Bull is. You give him an opportunity to pick his own path he goddamn runs with it and is just the best thing ever. ♥

 

(Also, I'm so tired of all the people who's opinion of Iron Bull is 'I hate him because people on tumblr told me he was problematic and I should plus my aunt gets triggered by big qunari men so they must all be abusive. I don't recruit him in game and have never done his personal quest because I leave him in Skyhold and don't talk to him ever but I still feel I have a good enough grasp on his character to give opinion's on him that are totally informed and thought out on my own and not just me parroting back what that one guy on tumblr said last year when hating Iron Bull was the cool social justice thing to do.' /endrant)

 

I'm liking your rogue Inquisitor a lot! And yes, you're dead right - 

 

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Edit: Also yeah the IB is problematic. All of the characters have issues. (And it never ceases to amuse me how those people tend to be the biggest fans of other characters with issues but those characters are just fine~)

 

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Gonna put these under a spoiler 'cause of size:

 

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To the question above: Lots of people took issue that Bull won't change the dynamics of the romance for quizzy. They claimed there was no way he knew what they needed better than they did. And then there was the Adoribull romance that set a lot of people off. Said Bull was abusive to Dorian, and if I remember correctly, a few were even claiming he was some kind of closet rapist or something because alcohol was involved when he and Dorian hooked up the first time.

 

 

Wow Denise, your girls are incredible! I have two female Adaars and neither look half that good.

 

Spoiler


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#12392
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Hair mods are used solely by those who don't care about clipping.

 

True, but it isn't like the vanilla models are devoid of clipping.

 

Blackwall's beard in his recruitment scene comes to mind

 

So does male qunari Inquisitor whose neck and jaw often sink into the skyhold outfit or even some armors when he talks. 


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#12393
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Those certainly, yes, among others.

 

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#12394
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MORE BULL FOR ME. *takes all the Bull no one wants and cuddles*

 

 

Heh heh, yes. There is indeed an upside, I suppose!



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Those certainly, yes, among others.

 

 

 

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I'm liking your rogue Inquisitor a lot! And yes, you're dead right - 

 

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Wow Denise, your girls are incredible! I have two female Adaars and neither look half that good.

 

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Thank you! There are several that never even made it as far as Haven, because I just couldn't stand them. I swear I'm not that shallow in RL, but I have a real perfectionist problem with characters I create.

 

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#12396
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Thank you! There are several that never even made it as far as Haven, because I just couldn't stand them. I swear I'm not that shallow in RL, but I have a real perfectionist problem with characters I create.

 

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See I don't understand that alot of the romances have certain characters they're molded for so that sort of "but I don't agree with it!" sort of just bounces off of me like "well...so just do another romance?" I mean I really only empathize with that when it's the only choice for romance someone has and that wasn't the case.



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Oh, and how could I forget Morrigan, the biggest hair-clipping culprit in the game. 

 

Her cheek kept devouring her bangs


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Oh, and how could I forget Morrigan, the biggest hair-clipping culprit in the game. 

 

Her cheek kept devouring her bangs

 

Oh god that made me cringe and considering her hair was especially made for her there was no excuse. I just wat.


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#12399
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Hahaha

 

 

I'm glad that Bull doesn't have hair in game.  I like his hairy concept art with his long beard. But seeing how the beards turned out, especially black beards, I don't think he would have looked good at all in game.

 

Really glad they gave him the thin moustache and scruff, though. 


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Oh god why did you remind me.

 

That beard would've ended up looking so bad.

 

*shivers*

 

Scruff is superior indeed *sage nod* Scruff > Beard


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