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[Ryzaki]

Hm likely and fair. And we've all done that I'm pretty sure. Human nature to be bias and judgmental. Oh I do get where he's coming from. That doesn't make me anymore less uncomfortable with it when playing a qunari PC? if that makes any sense. I can be friends but the romance barrier is just...no.

 

XD Yeah I couldn't play that. I can accept the Chantry but the Qun? No can do. The most I can do for the Qun is apathy. But yeah the reeducation conversation was so much nope. But part of the Qun I guess is accepting that so *shudders*

[SweetTeaholic]

Think of it this way: The Qun was the only life Bull knew before coming to mainland Thedas. He was force fed since he was little that 'Tal Vashoth are all bad and savages' and a good share of the ones he did fought in Shearon were the bad kind, but at the same time he likely had to put down Tal Vashoth that didn't harm people who just wanted to live there life away from the Qun; which is also one of the reasons why he's scared to become TV himself. If he doesn't turn into the 'savage' kind, then he has to come to the realization that the Tal Vashoth (or at least half of them) were sane and he killed good people. 

 

Bull even said tons of the times that he has to picture those that he did kill as monsters to make it easier to justify his actions. Yes, some of them were that, but what about the rest?

 

He suffers from PTSD. Most veterans who come back from war are changed in profound ways and aren't the same. They watched innocents and friends die; killed those who harmed them and there's a good chance people get caught in the crossfire at times. This is no different from Bull. AND HE HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS!! Can you imagine how f-up his mind become and then he finally cracked and beats himself up for it.

 

Also, in regard to the 're-education' conversation: What's interesting about Bull is that while he believes in the Qun, at the same time he doesn't. He was raised to believe that it's the only way to live but once he's given the role to play as a Tal Vashoth merc; he finds that he loves the life of it and it becomes more than just a role. He loves drinking, eating, sex and the friends he made. And that's what fears him. 

 

Remember, his biggest fear is madness; and he's scared he's going to loose himself. And now he's finding he's enjoying his life outside the Qun. He's terrified of that and tries to justify his actions as part of his role that this is all just an act. But a part of him knows this isn't true. His friendship with the Chargers aren't a con, it's real. There his family. These bas are his family and feels as that is wrong.  But when the time comes; he has to pick between the Qun or his family. Is he Hissrad or The Iron Bull? Thankfully most of us here chose to save his men, which is also what he wants. He may beat himself up for it in the beginning but by the time Trespasser rolls around; he finally comes to terms with who he is and suppose to looking back; he moves forward.

 

...I think I just summed up why I ship Iron Bull and Adaar so much...

 

Also, the mage thing: I think it's the Tevinter mages he has a bit of a problem with and even though if you choose to ally with the rebel Mages he disapproves; he doesn't down right hate them. He was raised to believe that mages are evil; but he doesn't believe that they are. Again with the 'believes in the Qun but doesn't.'

 

The part after the Fade bit of the game where he asks you to hit him with a stick and you refuse; this conversation happens and there's a party banter with Vivienne about the treatment of Saarebas under the Qun:

 

 

• Vivienne: I have heard of the life of the Saarebas, Iron Bull, but I'm curious about your viewpoint.

• Iron Bull: It's sad, mostly. The magic appears late in childhood just like it does for you folks. Some kids go years learning to be a baker, or soldier, or builder and then one day... that's all gone.

• Vivienne: You sound as though you pity them.

• Iron Bull: Well... yes. In theory, they're no different from anyone else. The Tamassrans - and the Ben-Hassrath - protect everyone from their own mistakes. They're people too, just serving the Qun, but too many Qunari are afraid of them.

• Vivienne: Not you, though?

• Iron Bull: No. Everyone who takes that burden and lives a good life with it has my respect

 

He has no problem with mages. He has one on his team (Dalish)and could end up dating one (either the Inquisitor or Dorian).

[Ryzaki]

I guess it just bothered me because he didn't drink the Qun koolaid with mages so why drink it with Tal Vashoth but you're right the PTSD probably did play a big part (but he does fight mages ("the vints") there too so...I dunno I guess it just hit closer to home.)

 

But yeah I see it now. I just wish there was a bit more meat to it =/

 

Also I tend to pick the talk it out on my more goody goody characters the hitting him with the stick is just odd to them. (But yes the last line always makes me laugh)

 

Ultimately I know it's my bias. Romancing Fenris with a mage or not a mage felt so...different I got hyped thinking Bull and Adaar was going to be like that.

 

And then it wasn't =/

 

(Really they could've given Bull a few more comments based off race and class. The only one you really get is for the Krem remark and most of my characters don't take that because they figured Bull already has that handled. >_> )

[denise12184]

I just think it's different when there's a chance of becoming what you hate/fear. Bull is probably safe in the assumption that he isn't going to wake up one day and find out he's a mage. On the other hand, he knows from personal experience that he has what it takes to become the kind of Tal-Vashoth he was fighting. He's seen it in himself and it scares the crap out of him. He thinks he's only a few steps away from a steep, slippery slope, and he's clinging to whatever he thinks will keep him from going over.

 

Different strokes, you know? I just found romancing him with another race missing something. I actually like the antagonism that's there in the beginning, same thing with Fenris. To me, the really sweet fairytale romances are nice once in a while (Alistair, Cullen) but there's nothing to really overcome. I love the romances that either start slow, as really good friends where trust and respect has already been established (Garrus!) or where those bonds are formed by coming to a mutual understanding, despite the characters' differences.

 

A bit off topic, but I always hit Bull with the stick lol. Yeah, it's weird, but I figure if that's what he wants...I also like the romance comment you can make about him liking it rough. (I guess I'm easily amused )

[Ryzaki]

Oh I've always figured that added to his rage of them but yeesh man. It just reminds me too much of Solas "oh you're one of the good ones." to make me comfortable. I just want to punch them. I guess this makes me a hypocrite cause I can put up with Fenris who mage hating just fine XD

 

But yes definitely different strokes. See my thing is there isn't any real antagonism with him and a Tal Vashoth PC to me. Bull just auto puts you in the one of the good ones pile. And I don't even get sexy wall slam make out sessions to make up for the snapping at me so I'm like what's the point. (Shallow I know.)

 

Also you can easily have Cullen romance play as a friends to lovers one. Just do his friendship route first then start the romance. I did it that way. Plays quite nicely that way too. "You haven't always seen me at my best."

 

I like the "if you ask nicely." remark Plus the "you don't need it." is more up most of my characters ally. (That and most of them are mages/archers and swinging heavy objects around is not their forte anyway so... it's especially lulz worthy when Cass asked my fem elf to take over. Just. REALLY CASS?)

[Riftwalker]

I just think it's different when there's a chance of becoming what you hate/fear. Bull is probably safe in the assumption that he isn't going to wake up one day and find out he's a mage. On the other hand, he knows from personal experience that he has what it takes to become the kind of Tal-Vashoth he was fighting. He's seen it in himself and it scares the crap out of him. He thinks he's only a few steps away from a steep, slippery slope, and he's clinging to whatever he thinks will keep him from going over.

 

I went over a lot of this in a fic I wrote, because I think Bull's relationship with the Qun runs far deeper than he'd ever tell anyone. But I think a lot of his reaction to Tal Vashoth has to do with how he perceived them, and trying to sort out whether that perception was correct or not. Every Tal Vashoth he meets that isn't crazy, that isn't bloodthirsty, that isn't out for some kind of mad vengeance is this quiet, subtle, walking reminder that maybe, just maybe what he was doing in Seheron wasn't right after all. Maybe there was some kind of truth to what the Tal Vashoth believed. Maybe all those people he killed were people, just like him, just like an Adaar Inquisitor, and that thought probably unsettles him more than anything else. His tombstone in the fade didn't say demons - it said madness. He's deathly afraid of going mad, like all the Tal Vashoth supposedly do, but I think, in some ways, he's more afraid that they aren't actually mad after all. Because what does that say about him? What does that say about the Qun?

[Mengor]

Hi everyone how are ya doing?

 

Mondays are normally boring. What better way to improve them by using... love

 

I´ve been using Flycam again, but this time with my Cadash char xD, and I have to admit I find male cadash/Bull much more fluffier and kinky!!

 

Spoiler

I believe Denise and probably more people wanted to find out what are these scenes like with other races...I was curious too! My first discovery was to see Dwarfs...levitate! Really xD! I was ike.. I knew it! lol





Many people choose the "a bit slower and lot harder" line. Yeah it´s fun, but maybe I am more the mawkish, romantic type xD



Yes!! I love this so much Nggg!!!!! Let´s do this Bull



And there we are !! Exchanging looks...Oh my god...that body.
DAT body!! **** me already

The reason I am beginning to love my dwarf more than my trevellan is probably, there´s even more contrast.and and...it´s so beautiful *_* Besides being small will sure make things even moar romantic and tender, and not mention once Bull begins with the ropes. Just wow...  

Now, my nightmare tempest cadash pt isn´t a nightmare anymore hehe..

Just imagine those chilly nights so close, cuddling on Iron Bull, feeling the warmth, embraced by him...so ****** glorious "Begins to breath strongly"

 

Apart from all this I´ve downloaded an app for android so I can read IB fics with the mobile. That means I´ll be collecting fics from AO3 and other sites to make them doc files. With Denise, Sui, Eggplantred, mine & Sweeteaholic´s I think I have a decent collection lol

[denise12184]

Oh I've always figured that added to his rage of them but yeesh man. It just reminds me too much of Solas "oh you're one of the good ones." to make me comfortable. I just want to punch them. I guess this makes me a hypocrite cause I can put up with Fenris who mage hating just fine XD

 

But yes definitely different strokes. See my thing is there isn't any real antagonism with him and a Tal Vashoth PC to me. Bull just auto puts you in the one of the good ones pile. And I don't even get sexy wall slam make out sessions to make up for the snapping at me so I'm like what's the point. (Shallow I know.)

 

Also you can easily have Cullen romance play as a friends to lovers one. Just do his friendship route first then start the romance. I did it that way. Plays quite nicely that way too. "You haven't always seen me at my best."

 

I like the "if you ask nicely." remark Plus the "you don't need it." is more up most of my characters ally. (That and most of them are mages/archers and swinging heavy objects around is not their forte anyway so... it's especially lulz worthy when Cass asked my fem elf to take over. Just. REALLY CASS?)

I looked at being sorted in the 'good ones' as a sort of grudging admission. Every time he brings up Tal-Vashoth after that point, he's still grumbly about it, and he's pretty much decided Adaar isn't actually Tal-Vashoth at that point anyway. I've also injected a fair amount of headcanon into this romance as well, so it's entirely possible that that's making up for any deficiencies in the actual story line. I agree completely that there could have been more to it. I really would have liked the opportunity to go a little more in depth on Bull being declared Tal-Vashoth - especially with an Adaar. I assumed Bull wasn't the type to get into feelings and whatnot, but he does in banter with a few of the party members (Solas, Sera, off the top of my head) and I think in the video of the Adoribull romance in Trespasser, doesn't Dorian mention that Bull likes to talk about his feelings? With everyone but the inquisitor, apparently.

 

 

I went over a lot of this in a fic I wrote, because I think Bull's relationship with the Qun runs far deeper than he'd ever tell anyone. But I think a lot of his reaction to Tal Vashoth has to do with how he perceived them, and trying to sort out whether that perception was correct or not. Every Tal Vashoth he meets that isn't crazy, that isn't bloodthirsty, that isn't out for some kind of mad vengeance is this quiet, subtle, walking reminder that maybe, just maybe what he was doing in Seheron wasn't right after all. Maybe there was some kind of truth to what the Tal Vashoth believed. Maybe all those people he killed were people, just like him, just like an Adaar Inquisitor, and that thought probably unsettles him more than anything else. His tombstone in the fade didn't say demons - it said madness. He's deathly afraid of going mad, like all the Tal Vashoth supposedly do, but I think, in some ways, he's more afraid that they aren't actually mad after all. Because what does that say about him? What does that say about the Qun?

I've actually read this! I just didn't know it was you. Amazing story! I loved it, and yeah, I agree with what you're saying. It would explain a lot. Yeah, the demons are just one path to madness, and since the qunari believe all Tal-Vashoth are mad, he has a hard time reconciling that he is one. I think the only way he can deal with everything that he did in Seheron is by painting them all the same color, and being confronted with evidence that suggests it's more complicated than that is scary. And...I just realized I'm basically restating everything you said above, so apologies, lol, but I agree.

 

 

ETA: He and Solas actually have a lot in common. It's kind of the same thing where the inquisitor can show Solas that he's wrong about the people of current Thedas not actually being people.

[Ryzaki]

I looked at being sorted in the 'good ones' as a sort of grudging admission. Every time he brings up Tal-Vashoth after that point, he's still grumbly about it, and he's pretty much decided Adaar isn't actually Tal-Vashoth at that point anyway. I've also injected a fair amount of headcanon into this romance as well, so it's entirely possible that that's making up for any deficiencies in the actual story line. I agree completely that there could have been more to it. I really would have liked the opportunity to go a little more in depth on Bull being declared Tal-Vashoth - especially with an Adaar. I assumed Bull wasn't the type to get into feelings and whatnot, but he does in banter with a few of the party members (Solas, Sera, off the top of my head) and I think in the video of the Adoribull romance in Trespasser, doesn't Dorian mention that Bull likes to talk about his feelings? With everyone but the inquisitor, apparently.

 

Ah I see. See I've did the headcanon thing with Fenris romance so I know what you mean (especially that whole live you for 3 years after we sleep together thing. Good lord I always save the book after that so I can fill the reading lssons so they were still getting closer even with Fenris still being a crabby patty). But yeah oh god don't get me started on the bolded. If he was tight lipped with everyone then I'd be "eh." but he's all open with everyone but Quizzy and I'm kind of like "so...what I don't get the trust then? Well... " It burns. Bull you can be a rock and still talk about feels. It just to be give and take. Garrus was give and take with Shep. She talked about her issues he did the same. It wasn't all give on one end. That's where the BS starts.

[Mengor]

Coincidence or not yesterday I returned from the fade and you know... I stared at that specific grave with this "madness" fear, thinking in Bull. it was interesting to read your discussion guys hehe, very interesting , All of you look more like researchers or professors lol.

 

As an extra note, when I finished some shopping in Val Royeaux, I had to deal accidentally with Cole´s wrath and all that "You don´t care about people" crap. I was like WTF Cole? I had never seen that cutscene... I can´t believe I actually decreased his approval to ****** him off  . Tried to punch him but he used his magic...(*******   lol)

 

Edit: oh come on! i can´t say p.i.s.s off? That´s not even nsfw!  

[sandalisthemaker]

Think of it this way: The Qun was the only life Bull knew before coming to mainland Thedas. He was force fed since he was little that 'Tal Vashoth are all bad and savages' and a good share of the ones he did fought in Shearon were the bad kind, but at the same time he likely had to put down Tal Vashoth that didn't harm people who just wanted to live there life away from the Qun; which is also one of the reasons why he's scared to become TV himself. If he doesn't turn into the 'savage' kind, then he has to come to the realization that the Tal Vashoth (or at least half of them) were sane and he killed good people. 

 

Bull even said tons of the times that he has to picture those that he did kill as monsters to make it easier to justify his actions. Yes, some of them were that, but what about the rest?

 

He suffers from PTSD. Most veterans who come back from war are changed in profound ways and aren't the same. They watched innocents and friends die; killed those who harmed them and there's a good chance people get caught in the crossfire at times. This is no different from Bull. AND HE HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS!! Can you imagine how f-up his mind become and then he finally cracked and beats himself up for it.

 

Also, in regard to the 're-education' conversation: What's interesting about Bull is that while he believes in the Qun, at the same time he doesn't. He was raised to believe that it's the only way to live but once he's given the role to play as a Tal Vashoth merc; he finds that he loves the life of it and it becomes more than just a role. He loves drinking, eating, sex and the friends he made. And that's what fears him. 

 

Remember, his biggest fear is madness; and he's scared he's going to loose himself. And now he's finding he's enjoying his life outside the Qun. He's terrified of that and tries to justify his actions as part of his role that this is all just an act. But a part of him knows this isn't true. His friendship with the Chargers aren't a con, it's real. There his family. These bas are his family and feels as that is wrong.  But when the time comes; he has to pick between the Qun or his family. Is he Hissrad or The Iron Bull? Thankfully most of us here chose to save his men, which is also what he wants. He may beat himself up for it in the beginning but by the time Trespasser rolls around; he finally comes to terms with who he is and suppose to looking back; he moves forward.

 

...I think I just summed up why I ship Iron Bull and Adaar so much...

 

Also, the mage thing: I think it's the Tevinter mages he has a bit of a problem with and even though if you choose to ally with the rebel Mages he disapproves; he doesn't down right hate them. He was raised to believe that mages are evil; but he doesn't believe that they are. Again with the 'believes in the Qun but doesn't.'

 

 

He has no problem with mages. He has one on his team (Dalish)and could end up dating one (either the Inquisitor or Dorian).

 

I don't know. He does seem to have reservations about mages/magic.  He doesn't really say anything to a mage Inquisitor that I'm aware of, but if you take him to Redcliffe and he hears what Fiona did, he outright says,  'see this is why you can't trust mages."

 

Also, in the Hinterlands he makes comments about the rebel mages causing chaos and destruction but does not make similar remarks about the templars.   I think there might be other comments at the Temple of Mythal in regards to the rituals.  Not 100% sure though. 

 

Everything else is spot on though, and I agree with your analysis on his views of the Tal-Vashoth. 

[SweetTeaholic]

I don't know. He does seem to have reservations about mages/magic.  He doesn't really say anything to a mage Inquisitor that I'm aware of, but if you take him to Redcliffe and he hears what Fiona did, he outright says,  'see this is why you can't trust mages."

 

Also, in the Hinterlands he makes comments about the rebel mages causing chaos and destruction but does not make similar remarks about the templars.   I think there might be other comments at the Temple of Mtthal in regards to the rituals.  Not 100% sure though. 

 

Everything else is spot on though, and I agree with your analysis on his views of the Tal-Vashoth. 

 

I still don't see him hating mages for the fact they're mages, or at least not in the same way the Qun does. He disagrees with the treatment of Saarebas and thinks they're people too, which is full violation of the Qun. That doesn't mean he's fully comfortable with magic in itself but I think that has to do with the whole 'demon crap' thing. Remember, he can date a Dorian, who is a mage (a tevinter mage at that) or the Inquisitor who could also be played as one and he seems to have no ill will with Dalish. Just because they can fart fire doesn't mean they're bad people.

 

Also, the rebel mages allied with Tevinter, so his distrust with them is at least understandable.

[sandalisthemaker]

I still don't see him hating mages for the fact they're mages, or at least not in the same way the Qun does. He disagrees with the treatment of Saarebas and thinks they're people too, which is full violation of the Qun. That doesn't mean he's fully comfortable with magic in itself but I think that has to do with the whole 'demon crap' thing. Remember, he can date a Dorian, who is a mage (a tevinter mage at that) or the Inquisitor who could also be played as one and he seems to have no ill will with Dalish. Just because they can fart fire doesn't mean they're bad people.

 

Also, the rebel mages allied with Tevinter, so his distrust with them is at least understandable.

 

Oh, yeah, I don't think he hates mages.

 

But I think he definitely has some reservations or at least a caution about mages/magic in general which is reasonable IMO.  As you said, the tie-in with demons/demonic possession is a big part of it. 

 

Bull's pretty laid back and friendly in general, so given enough time, he'll befriend nearly anyone.

[Lady Lemonade]

So! I played trespasser yesterday, and it was amazing. But I want to write about the Iron Bull romance.

Spoiler

I mean, other romances get a wedding, and I did not even get a kiss. Not a one! I will admit to a little jealousy. 

The only romance specific thing I remember is talking about sex toys, and while funny, it left me wanting. The IB romance has always been very one note about sex and it would have been nice to have something else in the romance.

What also slightly annoyed me is that the Dorian-Bull ship got a decent amount of content, compared to the Inquisitor-Bull. It's almost as if the writers are telling me they would be better together.

 

But there was also one redeeming thing that made me a little teary in the end. One of the ending slides mentions Bull going on adventures with the chargers and always taking his dragon's tooth with him, so that "no matter how far apart life takes them, they'll always be together"

 

What did everyone think of the romance in trespasser?

[Krypplingz]

I liked it, but then again it was pretty tailor made for Mytjan. (Spoilers and gushing below)

Spoiler

Mytjan was the type of guy who would suddenly start a lecture about 10 different subjects at the same time, so Bull was pretty used to that. So he smiled and nodded, pretending that he was paying attention while scanning the area on the sly. They usually kept their romance stuff private, so being casual buddies in the bar was normal for them. 

So when he made the speech that Mytjan was his Kadan to Dorian and Varric it was extra sweet. And the fact that he would consider marriage after the Halamshiral business was over was enough for Mytjan. "You're my kadan. That's a choice I make every day. I don't need to be bound to it." Just melted me.

I would have liked a bit more fluff between the mission, but you can't have it all.

And when Mytjan learned that he might die because of the mark, I felt like crying. So hearing that tiny crack in his voice before facing slime breath was so fitting because I was thinking back to the safe word conversation, when you have the option to bring up the topic that you might die and Bulls says stop. Knowing that this might be the time you had to do the talk, because the mark isn't a foe that can be put down with arrows. I wanted to cry, even if I had already finished the DLC with another character.

But the relief that he would live was amazing. And Bull leaving and coming back at the end was pretty fitting. "Kadan they have a bunch of food inside, aren't you coming? Oh your having a moment. Okay". And then the screen fades out and he puts his arm around Mytjan, pats him awkwardly and they just stand there for a while.

And then the necklace bit . Which was fitting since Mytjan was an archer so he'd probably be out of commission for quite some time while he relearned how to use a bow. So while he couldn't go himself, Bull would take him along in spirit. 

[Ryzaki]

 

Edit: oh come on! i can´t say p.i.s.s off? That´s not even nsfw!  

 

Don't try to make sense of BW's stupid filter. Just don't.

 

it filters out one of their quest names Oh ****.

 

Just don't try to make sense of it. Ever.

 

And I've ranted about the lack of fluff in the dlc enough. *sigh* I mean bah. Oh well. There's headcanon I guess.

[Mengor]

Don't try to make sense of BW's stupid filter. Just don't.

 

it filters out one of their quest names Oh ****.

 

Just don't try to make sense of it. Ever.

 

And I've ranted about the lack of fluff in the dlc enough. *sigh* I mean bah. Oh well. There's headcanon I guess.

 

xDD. I was just kind of suprised to see the ***** haha. And about trespasser yeah same here. There´s no need to repeat my complaints . At least I am satisfied with my own headcannon, just as I desired:

 

Spoiler

 

- I added some drama
- Added some extra dialogues
- Added fluff
- Dissolved the damm Inquisition ;D
- Trevellan joined the chargers.
- Married Bull as he accepted

 

To sum up, I created my story, and I love reading it over and over and over. I like the flow of emotions within. What else could I ask ? Life´s not only good but this basically means my quizzy:

 

- Can ride the Bull as much as he desires, or well...who knows, Bull can surprise his Kadan in many ways 

- Will listen to Bull´s commands, jokes and bed time pums probably

- Will live as a mercenary with his lover travelling around Thedas       

[Ryzaki]

Yeah I wouldn't add any drama (poor Quizzy has enough drama) but some fluff would be nice and some hand puns to go with it. XD

 

And yes definitely joining the chargers and trolling the poor nobles.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

I want to change the ending for my Adaar, he's a sarebass, so very powerful mage, he learned the magic to stablize his mark, no amputation because to handle Bull, he definitely needs both hands and, he's ending the inquisition and, combining his mercenaries with the Chargers, a small shock troop army, too big for a real mercinary comany but, too small to be an army - perfect for that bunch.

[Mengor]

Guys, one question about Wicked Grace. Is it similar to poker? Is there anyway to find out the rules? If not, I would strongly encourage BW to make a card-poker like game called Wicked Grace, it could be fun xD.

 

This way, um...we could play versus Iron Bull and...each time he lost a game he would remove one piece of clothing...till he is completely naked...You guys know where I am getting at. Right?   I am certain they would sell a lot of them lol. Well, they should think about it at least...Just some advice BW, if you do, make sure you set a high difficulty, after all he´s Ben-Hassrath and he will know many tricks. 

 

What I think now is, I should cover all this in my next fic. However I am still gathering ideas. I need a whole bunch of hot material cause the plan is to make it 10% plot and 90% sex to make up for the previous fic 

 

Pd: yes, I´ve expressed blatantly my evil intentions lol

[denise12184]

http://cypheroftyr.t...ayer-dragon-age

 

This lays the game out pretty well. I've used it for fic reference myself. It's not official BW rules, but based on what little the games give us for Wicked Grace, it works.

[Mengor]

Thinking even more about this...I guess disbanding the Inquisition and joining the Bull´s chargers is like the perfect final for Quizzy . Receiving orders from Iron Bull...I find that really hot somehow xD. In my case I would disobey him occasionally just to...increase the amount of suitable punishments: 

 

"Kadan... You are not following my instructions huh... let me bestow upon you some discipline. Come here..." Throws the rope to Quizzy        

[Qun00]

This ****** thread!

http://forum.bioware...1#entry19832234

MY SIDES

[denise12184]

Oh my....

[Mengor]

I´ve seen it...And I find annoying they make fun of Iron Bull like that. They can exaggerate as much as they want. Iron Bull is 100000000 times better than anything they can say. There are people who keep relating Bull to a heartless milk-tank container or something like that, which is offensive  , even as a joke xd. They don´t know how to appreciate greatness in a kinky character! Don´t worry Bull, we the Bullmancers will defend you no matter what.