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[EggplantRed]

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Well Ripley went with Hancock. Just couldn't resist his swagger.
Seriously, despite his ghoulish look, the man has a certain kind of charm. The drugs thing doesn't bother Ripley either. Since she thawed out, she's dabbled in Psychojet and Buffjet quite a bit herself so she can't gripe about his flaws without looking in the mirror too.

I'll try Piper and Danse on another PT.

 

And I really wish I could grab that dragon tooth necklace 

[Mengor]

 

And I really wish I could grab that dragon tooth necklace 

 

Me too...I might feel bad afterwards, if I invest that sum of money...Maybe we should ask it for Xmas Eggplantred !! Assuming they are not sold out by that date

 

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Guys? Where can I get an Iron Bull mobile case? Hopefully it will be much more cheaper...

[paramitch]

Hello fellow Bull Riders! (I have found my people!)

 

So I've read the whole thread while playing DAI -- until around 481 and it started getting very Trespasser-y (I'm just starting that now). I've been playing DA:I for the past few months, taking my time to enjoy and explore the game, and it turned into the best gaming experience of my life. The world is so vast and rich, and the characters so well-drawn.

 

And Iron Bull is, to me, the best and most interesting of those. He was a total surprise for me. At first, I just thought he was a lot of fun as a character -- his exuberance and honesty were refreshing, and I liked his loyalty to his people. My character had been flirting with pretty much everyone through Haven -- I'd envisioned her as this brash and brave type, someone who deliberately looked cold and princessy but who was actually a survivor who was scarred and insecure, and who masked that with humor and sex. (So I loved it of course when Cassandra rolled her eyes and said, "Yes, yes, they'll all say the Inquisitor was HILARIOUS...")

 

So when my Quizzie met Bull, I immediately thought, "Wow, they look amazing together, it's this total Beauty and the Beast thing, she has got to romance this guy!" 

 

But then this funny thing happened. Within maybe 10 hours of meeting Bull's character, I went from thinking he was this big ugly lug to thinking he was beautiful, and to realizing that he was the smartest, most perceptive person in the game. He was so complex, able to go from quiet respect and poignance to hilarity on a moment's notice. I loved the Shakespearean touches to his character -- like when he took Quizzie to visit the campfires of the regular footsoldiers, or introduced her to the Chargers (especially wonderful Krem) -- all very Henry V.

 

So of course my girl starts throwing herself at Iron Bull. Constantly. Seriously. And the guy just ignores it all. I mean, it must have taken me 30+ hours to get his approval. In the meantime, I took him in my party on most of my adventuring, and really continued to enjoy how insightful he was -- the ways he went from distrusting Cole, to paternal and protective, telling him, "You're a weird kid. But you're MY weird kid." Or how he charmed Cassandra into a grudging respect, Vivi into admiration, Solas into real kindness ("You have the Inquisitor. And you have me.") and more.

 

(The funniest part was, I heard that Bull would just show up in the Quizzie's bedroom once approval was high enough. So as I was flirting with Bull, I kept having her run back to her quarters to see if he was there yet and HE NEVER WAS. Sigh. I was the biggest goofball Bullmancer ever.)

 

And of course then they did finally get together, and I adored all of it. I loved its edginess and hotness and yet also Bull's gentleness and respect. (He gets consent THREE TIMES before he makes his move.) I also really liked watching the relationship evolve from one that started with sex (albeit, also with real friendship), into something deeper -- it was surprising and lovely, and so much more interesting than most RPG ships I've played, where I always seemed to romance the boring 'princely' nice guys, which was simply: Guy fell for my girl. They slept together. They were now "in love." Very little actual relationship there.

 

Here, it was the opposite -- in short, not a Disney romance, but a relationship about grownups that felt surprisingly real. Bull's relationship dialogue was also predictably nuanced (and I was totally floored that it was FPJ voicing him -- kudos to the guy for an absolutely superb V/O performance).

 

And Bull just kept getting more interesting as the game went on for me. One of the best things about Bull is that he constantly combines deceptive honesty with something more subtle. He's often disarmingly blunt, but so many times, that only revealed another layer beneath, as when he admitted to being haunted by those he lost, or when he told Cole that the first thing he did when he met people was to immediately size up how to kill them. Or when he flat-out tells Blackwall, "Something's off about you" (later blatantly showing that he knows exactly what it is before the truth comes out when discussing Blackwall's French/Orlesian potential safe-word). Or when he shows himself able to play mind-chess with Solas. Or that he knows the steps to the "Dance of Six Candles" when quizzed by Vivienne.

 

So yeah: my female elf fell all over herself trying to seduce him, got totally blitzed after fighting dragons to slur more hopeless flirtations at him (I think she may have said "I love you" to Bull (and Krem too, but come on, everyone loves Krem), stared daggers at Dorian (whom she otherwise adored) for all the Bull flirtage, and was shocked and delighted when he finally capitulated. She was proud to be seen with him and to acknowledge the relationship (in the world's funniest post-coital scene ever). I even loved it that Bull did the same -- he'd support her publicly and unswervingly, then argue with her privately if he disagreed (as he did after her decisions at The Winter Palace). But meanwhile, he gave her a moment to lean on him after the drama with the court, and then took her in and danced with her. That's love.

 

I also admit that I may have plotzed all over the place when Bull started calling my Inquisitor "Kadan," as I had adored Sten so much in DA:O and honestly despite romancing Alistair, by the midpoint in the game he was just a puppy following my Warden around. Yet meanwhile Zev had turned out to be far more complex than expected, and -- even more moving for me, Sten had quietly become a friend and loyal companion, to the point that I headcanoned that he and my Warden had actually fallen in love, but both knew it was impossible. Yet I knew that every time Sten called my Warden "Kadan," it was exactly like the "As you wish" in "The Princess Bride" -- an "I love you." (I also loved Sten's voice actor, who put so much quiet nuance and sly humor into our conversations).

 

So -- yeah. When Bull suddenly called my Inquisitor "Kadan," I definitely had little hearts floating out of my eyes. (I always knew Sten loved me! I knew it!) And even more adorably, while my Inquisitor looked predictably derpy when smiling through most of the rest of the game, in almost all her scenes with Bull, her smiles came off as real and completely besotted.

 

I'm now such a superfan of Bull's that I don't even know if I could ever romance anyone else. I mean, I will definitely be playing again (I'm still not done -- I just finished Descent, Jaws of Hakkon and the main story, and am FINALLY starting "Trespasser!"). But I just know that at some point, even while my next Quizzie gazes at Cullen (I mean, look at him...), or tries to comfort Solas, she's going to be looking over at Bull. Because: awesomeness.

Apologies for the WALL OF TEXT. But I've been waiting to post this for nearly 500 pages! (Long live Iron Bull!)

[Mengor]

Welcome here!! And thanks for sharing your impressions with us . The Bullmancers keep increasing their numbers!

 

Edited: guys? I haven´t tried Descent and Jaws of Hakkon. Is it worth getting these dlcs? Is there any extra IB content/scenes or something? And other thing. Is lv cap raised with this DLCs

[paramitch]

Thanks, Mengor! It's much appreciated. I already know all of you regular posters by name as a meek little elven lurker, and you are all awesome. Of course.

 

If it helps, I really recommend both DLCs. I would recommend "Jaws of Hakkon" slightly above "Descent" although both are lovely. With "Jaws" you get an incredibly complex expansion and culture, plenty of great explorations, moving history, poignant moments, funny companionship discussions, and great boss fights. There's lots of pathos, and even better, lots of real humor and it's so funny and sweet and real. But no new characters, although welcome additional interactions with the adorable Harding.

 

With "Descent," you get very tough boss fights (more up front than later), and more importantly, some beautiful and lovely new characters who are just wonderful people we really grow to care about. 

 

I bought the GOTY edition so I had all of the above but I definitely don't regret the money. I think it's worth it, and Bull is a lot of fun in both (there's even a big dragon fight in JoH so of course Bull is happy as a Qunari clam).

 

Hope this helps! And thanks for the welcome! As a beloved of the Ben-Hassrath, I am not worthy. Well, almost. Kind of. You get the picture.

[SweetTeaholic]

Welcome Aboard Paramitch, nice to meet you.

 

As for when Sten calls you Kadan: It means "where the heart lies" in Qunlat I think; which is used as a term for love ones and people you care about. Under the Qun you're not suppose to be romantically involved with anyone or trip to the re educators; so when Sten says it it means friendship. He also calls Stale and Alister in the comics Kadan. 

 

But when Bull says it; he says it means "My Heart". Here he's using it in a romantic context but it's mostly not used in that way.

 

Just thought I would clear that up being the whole "OMG STEN WAS FLIRTING WITH ME" debate.

[Mengor]

Thanks, Mengor! It's much appreciated. I already know all of you regular posters by name as a meek little elven lurker, and you are all awesome. Of course.

 

If it helps, I really recommend both DLCs. I would recommend "Jaws of Hakkon" slightly above "Descent" although both are lovely. With "Jaws" you get an incredibly complex expansion and culture, plenty of great explorations, moving history, poignant moments, funny companionship discussions, and great boss fights. There's lots of pathos, and even better, lots of real humor and it's so funny and sweet and real. But no new characters, although welcome additional interactions with the adorable Harding.

 

With "Descent," you get very tough boss fights (more up front than later), and more importantly, some beautiful and lovely new characters who are just wonderful people we really grow to care about. 

 

I bought the GOTY edition so I had all of the above but I definitely don't regret the money. I think it's worth it, and Bull is a lot of fun in both (there's even a big dragon fight in JoH so of course Bull is happy as a Qunari clam).

 

Hope this helps! And thanks for the welcome! As a beloved of the Ben-Hassrath, I am not worthy. Well, almost. Kind of. You get the picture.

 

 

  

 

Wow.. really? Hahaha. Thanks!   .  In my case I would have to get JoH & Descent separately as my endless thirst for Bull forced me to buy Trespasser quickly xD. But you know...I might get them  in the end too. It would be weird not to play these, that way I could have more adventures with Bull C:

 

As for Bull, yeah we are all united by his awesomeness   . And Kadan... oh my god...that word, DAT word. IS the word haha. The dragontooth cutscene is just so lovely!! I always feel...that thing whatever it is when he embraces me and calls me Kadan...    

 

As a side note I made this time another human mage cause I can´t stop it. But it seems so similar to Krem... lol! 

[paramitch]

Welcome Aboard Paramitch, nice to meet you.

 

As for when Sten calls you Kadan: It means "where the heart lies" in Qunlat I think; which is used as a term for love ones and people you care about. Under the Qun you're not suppose to be romantically involved with anyone or trip to the re educators; so when Sten says it it means friendship. He also calls Stale and Alister in the comics Kadan. 

 

But when Bull says it; he says it means "My Heart". Here he's using it in a romantic context but it's mostly not used in that way.

 

Just thought I would clear that up being the whole "OMG STEN WAS FLIRTING WITH ME" debate.

 

Thanks, SweetTeaHolic! I've enjoyed so many of your posts here.

 

If it helps, I definitely do know that there are lore explanations for "Kadan."

 

But in my particular DAO and DAI playthroughs, and in my own personal headcanon, I had already added my own meaning to it, so it's all just my spin. I'd already felt that Sten felt romantic love toward my Warden, even though he could not act on it (and neither could she), so every time said "Kadan," it was this very mixed thing for me in terms of how I was reading the characters and interactions. It was all the more poignant for me because Sten starts out so damaged, and he takes so very long to get to know (and to gain approval from). And in the end, all they could do to express themselves was in these little, delicate conversations in which he called her "Kadan" and she talked about life and magic and cookies.

 

So -- for me only -- I see Bull's use of "Kadan" as a bittersweet callback to Sten because of the meaning I had already given the word, and it was really lovely to have it reach fruition here in my Quizzie's romance with Bull.

 

I'm a writer, so I tend to take the RPG aspect really seriously in a goofy way. I tend to come up with all sorts of motivations and interactions for my character (here, my Quizzie #1) so that even when they're all running around questing, she's thinking about things like whether Bull and she are a good idea (early on), how to fix up Josie with Krem, about how to get Cassandra riled up by joking at the next Council meetings (she loves messing with Cassandra and I love the disgusted noises Cassandra makes in response to all the jokes) or whether she could get Solas in on the next game of "Wicked Grace" (he seems so lonely).

 

Yes, I think way too much about this stuff. Sigh.

 

 

Wow.. really? Hahaha. Thanks!   .  In my case I would have to get JoH & Descent separately as my endless thirst for Bull forced me to buy Trespasser quickly xD. But you know...I might get them  in the end too. It would be weird not to play these, that way I could have more adventures with Bull C:

 

As for Bull, yeah we are all united by his awesomeness   . And Kadan... oh my god...that word, DAT word. IS the word haha. The dragontooth cutscene is just so lovely!! I always feel...that thing whatever it is when he embraces me and calls me Kadan...    

As a side note I made this time another human mage cause I can´t stop it. But it seems so similar to Krem... lol! 

 

 

The one that really got me out of nowhere was the "I love you." Again, I really appreciated that it felt like a real and funny conversation between these two people who had built a relationship and were very comfortable, funny and sexy together. And when my Quizzie actually says "I love you" and at first he jokes about it? The look on her face was perfect, because it really was painful (and it's such a scary thing for her to admit to)... then thank goodness we got that soft "I love you too" to end the scene.

 

The one thing I didn't realize with "Trespasser" was that you really have to finish everything (I still had some side quests in 'Descent" and shards to pick up in "JoH") because it appears you cannot ever go back from there, just forward. I'm still playing "Trespasser" but once I'm done, I'm going to reroll and play the whole darn thing from the beginning. There's so much I missed -- I'm already looking forward to it.

[Midnight Bliss]

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Okay so I actually decided to start posting on the forum because of this post. Not that the others of the thread aren't good mind you, because they are. But this just spoke to my experience with IB on so many levels I couldn't help myself.

 

Whilst trying to avoid being redundant with the quoted comment I have to say that I agree wholeheartedly that Iron Bull has become my favorite character in pretty much anything. And his romance with my female Trevelyon one of the most touching, emotional, sweet and just plain amazing love story I think I've ever seen in any fantasy setting.

 

It's so funny because prior to playing DAI I kept hearing that Bull was the "joke" Character for the game. That Bull was loud, rowdy, humorous and although likable, pretty shallow and what I deduced would ultimately end up being just another proud warrior trope character with preacious little or no substance at all in their storyline or personality.

 

After I got the game and played a little bit of it and got to interact with Bull some my impression of him was far more pleasant then I would have ever guessed, and the more scenes my prototype protagonist had with him the more I found myself bringing him along for quests and other things and the more I found myself enjoying him and his personality.

 

Cut to my restarting the game with my actual cannon Inquis and being at the point where I needed to determine my romance of choice and again I found myself hesitating because I wanted to choose Bull, but recalled miscellaneous comments of the past asserting that Bull's was the "fun" Romance. The relatively shallow romance that was primarily focused on sex and what sounded like a bunch of you being tied to bed posts and blindfolded with little or no actual affection felt toward you or for you at all. However, I then remembered the other nonsense that characterized Bull as a wisecracking oaf who wanted to fight all the time and ultimately decided to take the plunge with the Bull Romance and sail for shores unknown.

 

Skip to present day and I'm left speechless. If only I were more eloquent so that I might give voice to all my opinions on Bull how wonderful I find him but what I can say is I just had my breath taken away with how mature and genuine both he and his romance are.

I'm refreshed how my protagnoist actually gets to have a sex life with him which is something that to my great discontent is constantly not represented at all or done very poorly in love stories. - I mean, I'm as down with the love eternal that chucks shooting stars into orbit with kisses and hugs that make birds and frogs start singing and all that but at the risk of seeming crass I actually enjoy the notion that my character and her boyfriend actually have sex. And, surprise, they enjoy having sex enough to talk about it, and then have more of it and then a little more after that. They aren't defined by it, their relationship isn't defined by it or dependant on it, but it's a part of them and their love all the same. And it's okay, and not a big deal, but it is, because they love each other and don't need fireworks going off in the night sky while woodland animals play music for their one and only horizontal hula. I mean, I appriciate sex scenes that are long winded like that and understand why they appeal to some people but somehow with Bull, admist the bedroom hijinx and the handcuffs and the ease of it all I found it somehow a bit more genuine and so much sweeter than the theatric alternative.

 

Above all else though, I love the fact that interaction with him just seems so genuine, so easy, so believable. The way I'd picture two people who actually loved each other interacting in a real way. And the fact that the progression of said interaction with him comes at a very relatable pace of acquaintanceship to fun under the covers to something more to affection and finally to love in the end, - which makes the finale that much more sweet and satisfying when it finally does come.

 

My hat really goes off to bioware for creating such a unexpected and fantastic character and such a effortless and sweet romance story with said character. And it says something to me, too, since I've been a pretty big fantasy/sci fu buff my whole life and read/seen/played my share of that ilk and Bull is one of my biggest and most pleasant surprises in the history of it all, and the I think the only time I ever found myself so transfixed by a inhuman character in the face of, unfortunately, inhuman characters tending to boil down to not much besides a bag of tropes and stuff everybody has seen a hundred times already. And I certainly never would have seen myself enjoying a romance story with something like that, let alone absolutely loving it.

 

I guess it just goes to show you can't judge a book which you haven't first read. Heh

 

 

And thanks again, paramitch, for inspiring me to go ahead and make a post of my own to give voice to my love for Bull!

 

 

Cheers

[tatterdemalion]

I think it's time for me to pop out of the woodwork as well.

 

A few admissions: I'm not an ardent, ardent fan of The Iron Bull (yet!) and I've only glanced through this thread a couple of times. I've read some really great posts in this thread, however,  and I do like Bull. I, however, have never really (shamefully) spared too much thought to him or his companions until the past month or so, when on a whim I decided to try out a save where my Lavellan dumped Cullen and romanced Bull to the point where she slayed a dragon to present him with the necklace.

 

I liked it. I liked that they start off as comrades and friends, then comrades and friends who have sex, and comrades and friends who fall in love. Slipping into romances with other characters was sometimes a little too easy: pop in a couple of flirts here and there, then BAM! you get "Arlath ma vhenan". With Bull, you have to work for it. Flirt with him, and you don't get an "Iron Bull approves." The fact that I didn't get a gold star for flirting with him made it feel less like a game for me. Instead, I had to get approval fighting dragons and assholes; for him to fall in love with you, he has to be with you when you fight, he has to see you, and you have to be right there with him. So the romance that develops soon after feels quite hard-won and hard-earned. I really liked that.

 

What I exceptionally love about Bull is his relationship with his Chargers, and with Krem in particular. Yes, yes, he may brush off the idea of romance at first, but he doesn't joke about loyalty -- particularly when it's loyalty born out of a strong bond of friendship or camaraderie. Yes, he's loyal to the Qun, fair enough. But his loyalty to the Chargers and to an Inquisitor who befriends him is...different. It's changed him in ways that he probably isn't ready to admit or accept, though he eventually does by the events of Trespasser. All of that intrigued me.

 

In fact, it intrigued me enough to be inspired to start planning out a fic about Bull and the Chargers -- which is a big deal for me. It's been a decade since I felt invested enough in a set of other people's characters to write novel-length fanfiction about them, and about a year since I stopped writing altogether due to personal issues. That all changed when I thought about Bull and his men, and came up with an idea for a story that I immediately fell in love with enough to get back into writing stories again -- or, at least, get into the habit of planning one. Thanks to Bull and the Chargers, I've found happiness with writing that I had lost for awhile.

 

I don't know if I would actually publish it, as there seem to be little interest within the fandom regarding the members of the Chargers themselves :C. There seem to be so few fics, or comprehensive headcanons about them....though I could very well be wrong and I've just been looking in the wrong places. I hope I have been.

 

But yes, here I am, another (very, very possible) fan of the Bull who will (probably) love him more yet, especially as I suss my writing out. 

[Mengor]

Welcome here you two !! It´s nice to see more people sharing their viewpoints.

 

 

In fact, it intrigued me enough to be inspired to start planning out a fic about Bull and the Chargers -- which is a big deal for me. It's been a decade since I felt invested enough in a set of other people's characters to write novel-length fanfiction about them, and about a year since I stopped writing altogether due to personal issues. That all changed when I thought about Bull and his men, and came up with an idea for a story that I immediately fell in love with enough to get back into writing stories again -- or, at least, get into the habit of planning one. Thanks to Bull and the Chargers, I've found happiness with writing that I had lost for awhile.

 

I don't know if I would actually publish it, as there seem to be little interest within the fandom regarding the members of the Chargers themselves :C. There seem to be so few fics, or comprehensive headcanons about them....though I could very well be wrong and I've just been looking in the wrong places. I hope I have been.

 

 

Yup... something like that happened to me...Iron Bull inspired me to write many things...(hot, romantic, sexy ones), along with many awesome fic writers out there  (Sui Causa, Sweeteahoilc, Eggplantred, Denise, they really struck a chord on me lol) that boosted that inspiration even more! (I admit I didn´t write any fic before xD. Only as school assigments lol) So I began to write about him and my Quizzy until one day, one moment I realised I was writing about sex/NSFW and it was awesome . It was both relaxing and fun. Because you know... you set your rules, your decisions, In fact I keep writing little by little nowadays about my lovable Iron Bull as a last stage when my Inquisitor stops being Inquisitor, marries him and joins the chargers cause that´s the life he´s decided  .

 

Mmm.. What do you mean with comprehensive headcannons? Have you tried Archive of our own aka (AO3) yet? So far that´s the only place I know you can find Iron Bull Headcannons probably. But perhaps someone else can bring some more light to you in that aspect. Or even Tumblrs sites... I am not sure.

 

Will you share your fic with us ? 

 

 

 

[tatterdemalion]

 

Welcome here you two !! It´s nice to see more people sharing their viewpoints.

 

 

 

Yup... something like that happened to me...Iron Bull inspired me to write many things...(hot, romantic, sexy ones), along with many awesome fic writers out there  (Sui Causa, Sweeteahoilc, Eggplantred, Denise, they really struck a chord on me lol) that boosted that inspiration even more! (I admit I didn´t write any fic before xD. Only as school assigments lol) So I began to write about him and my Quizzy until one day, one moment I realised I was writing about sex/NSFW and it was awesome . It was both relaxing and fun. Because you know... you set your rules, your decisions, In fact I keep writing little by little nowadays about my lovable Iron Bull as a last stage when my Inquisitor stops being Inquisitor, marries him and joins the chargers cause that´s the life he´s decided  .

 

Mmm.. What do you mean with comprehensive headcannons? Have you tried Archive of our own aka (AO3) yet? So far that´s the only place I know you can find Iron Bull Headcannons probably. But perhaps someone else can bring some more light to you in that aspect. Or even Tumblrs sites... I am not sure.

 

Will you share your fic with us ? 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd almost forgotten how writing fanfiction can be relaxing indeed. It doesn't have to be particularly for anyone else (unless you want it to be), and, after years of being told in Creative Writing classes that speculative fiction wouldn't be generally welcome in my writing, unless it lived up to some lofty, high-brow cultural standard, it's just ... so nice... to play in someone else's sandbox for awhile, without trying to fulfill anybody else's expectations or standards -- perhaps other fans...but that's a worry I'll entertain once/if I get a story posted to AO3. 

 

I'd love to share the fic if I ever do manage to finish it. I have such a poor record for finishing novel-length stories though; I lose interest after the third or fourth chapter and I'd be annoyed at myself if I ever posted a story that I hadn't finished yet...though not too annoyed to be motivated to complete it! So I would share it only if I ever finished it in its entirety :3. 

 

It's about the fate of the Chargers after the events of Trespasser, and explores the backstory of each member of Bull's mercenary company.

 

I did get an AO3 account a week or so ago, but I haven't poked around too much  I know Iron Bull headcanons do exist, but finding a good fic/exciting headcanon exclusively about ...say Dalish, Rocky, Stitches, Skinner or Grim is a little harder -- then again, I am partly at fault for not poking about AO3 more thoroughly lmao. In the meantime, however, I'll happily write my own 

 

...and bluckling down and reading through this thread for fic suggestions! Thank you so much for the welcome I'm glad to be here, and I look forward to reading/learning more about the Bull.

 

I've also started a new Lavellan who I am determined to romance the Bull with. This Lavellan is a tough old warrior in her twilight years, and is quite distrustful of the Inquisition itself -- there are few among its ranks that she would willingly confide in, and Bull is among that rare few, even though he is Ben-Hassrath. It was his bald honesty about his status as a spy that impressed her. She'd rather an honest spy for the Qunari than a Andastrian spymaster the likes of Leliana, who is keen on furthering the Inquisition's cause to whatever end that my Lavellan doesn't care for. 

 

Here's a few screenshots of her meeting the Bull and his Chargers for the first time (though Bull's a little cut off from some of the pictures, argh). She might not look it, but she is quite impressed by him and his comrades.

 

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[Mengor]

Wow....that´s one cool lavellan . That scar is in the face was made with mods. I suppose... It´s really nice.

[tatterdemalion]

Thanks! Those are console screenshots, actually, so no mods :3. I just fiddled with colors/lighting on photoshop after. 

 

I'm just incredibly stoked for this particular playthrough, and to experience the Bull romance in its entirety. 

[Midnight Bliss]

@ Mengor

 

Thanks for the welcome!

 

 

@ Tatterdemalion

 

Oh! I love your Elf!

 

I'd also love it if you share the fanfic when finished! I adore the Chargers too. So much so in fact, that I actually really wish Krem had been a companion. Oh how wonderful that would have been. Heh

 

And since everyone is sharing screens here are some of my Trevelyon and Bull for those interested~

 

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[Mengor]

@ Mengor

 

Thanks for the welcome!

 

 

@ Tatterdemalion

 

Oh! I love your Elf!

 

I'd also love it if you share the fanfic when finished! I adore the Chargers too. So much so in fact, that I actually really wish Krem had been a companion. Oh how wonderful that would have been. Heh

 

And since everyone is sharing screens here are some of my Trevelyon and Bull for those interested~

 

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Nice shots ;D. Gaaaaaahhh!!! 2nd and 4th one with the tattoos...Oh my!!   I might need a towel... Going to add these to my collection xD. 

[Midnight Bliss]

Nice shots ;D. Gaaaaaahhh!!! 2nd and 4th one with the tattoos...Oh my!!   I might need a towel... Going to add these to my collection xD. 

Thanks!!

 

Since you enjoyed those, here's two more. :3

 

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[paramitch]

Okay so I actually decided to start posting on the forum because of this post. Not that the others of the thread aren't good mind you, because they are. But this just spoke to my experience with IB on so many levels I couldn't help myself.

 

Whilst trying to avoid being redundant with the quoted comment I have to say that I agree wholeheartedly that Iron Bull has become my favorite character in pretty much anything. And his romance with my female Trevelyon one of the most touching, emotional, sweet and just plain amazing love story I think I've ever seen in any fantasy setting.

 

It's so funny because prior to playing DAI I kept hearing that Bull was the "joke" Character for the game. That Bull was loud, rowdy, humorous and although likable, pretty shallow and what I deduced would ultimately end up being just another proud warrior trope character with preacious little or no substance at all in their storyline or personality.

 

Skip to present day and I'm left speechless. If only I were more eloquent so that I might give voice to all my opinions on Bull how wonderful I find him but what I can say is I just had my breath taken away with how mature and genuine both he and his romance are.

 

Above all else though, I love the fact that interaction with him just seems so genuine, so easy, so believable. The way I'd picture two people who actually loved each other interacting in a real way. And the fact that the progression of said interaction with him comes at a very relatable pace of acquaintanceship to fun under the covers to something more to affection and finally to love in the end, - which makes the finale that much more sweet and satisfying when it finally does come.

 

I guess it just goes to show you can't judge a book which you haven't first read. Heh

 

And thanks again, paramitch, for inspiring me to go ahead and make a post of my own to give voice to my love for Bull!

 

(Note: I snipped some stuff for space here and below)

 

Thanks so much for this, Skarbrand! Especially as I'm honestly quite a shy poster. I mean, I read this whole thread (and all you people's fabulous fan-fictions) while playing while trying to simply sum up my thoughts as I increasingly found IB so delightful and nuanced. So your post meant a lot -- I definitely found so much to agree with (your experience really mirrors my own in lots of ways) -- so thank you! Best compliment ever on Bioware forums. (I'm not worthy!)

 

I liked it. I liked that they start off as comrades and friends, then comrades and friends who have sex, and comrades and friends who fall in love. Slipping into romances with other characters was sometimes a little too easy: pop in a couple of flirts here and there, then BAM! you get "Arlath ma vhenan". With Bull, you have to work for it. Flirt with him, and you don't get an "Iron Bull approves." The fact that I didn't get a gold star for flirting with him made it feel less like a game for me. Instead, I had to get approval fighting dragons and assholes; for him to fall in love with you, he has to be with you when you fight, he has to see you, and you have to be right there with him. So the romance that develops soon after feels quite hard-won and hard-earned. I really liked that.

 

What I exceptionally love about Bull is his relationship with his Chargers, and with Krem in particular. Yes, yes, he may brush off the idea of romance at first, but he doesn't joke about loyalty -- particularly when it's loyalty born out of a strong bond of friendship or camaraderie. Yes, he's loyal to the Qun, fair enough. But his loyalty to the Chargers and to an Inquisitor who befriends him is...different. It's changed him in ways that he probably isn't ready to admit or accept, though he eventually does by the events of Trespasser. All of that intrigued me.

 

In fact, it intrigued me enough to be inspired to start planning out a fic about Bull and the Chargers -- which is a big deal for me. It's been a decade since I felt invested enough in a set of other people's characters to write novel-length fanfiction about them, and about a year since I stopped writing altogether due to personal issues. That all changed when I thought about Bull and his men, and came up with an idea for a story that I immediately fell in love with enough to get back into writing stories again -- or, at least, get into the habit of planning one. Thanks to Bull and the Chargers, I've found happiness with writing that I had lost for awhile.

 

Tatterdemalion, great post. I agree -- for me, it's Bull's evolution from happy-battle-guy to steadfast friend and companion (abandoning the Qun for her and Chargers), going Tal-Vashoth, that makes the journey worthwhile. I cannot imagine the pathos (SNIFFLES! TEARS! DENIAL!) of playing Trespasser for instance without saving the Chargers... just... can't.

But then I never could. I can't imagine Bull without his Chargers, the family he built on his own. They would die for him. But that also -- to me, means -- they should never have to. The loyalty goes both ways. The man lost an EYE for my darling Krem. 'nuff said.

I would also add that I think the Chargers are by far the better tradeoff despite the loss of a Qunari Dreadnought. The Chargers by this point have not only shown themselves to be a valuable asset to the Inquisition, they're a savvy, sleek and nearly invisible spy/Special Forces group that can go anywhere and be anything. Even tactically, I've never been tempted to choose the Qunari. And emotionally (even if he doesn't know it yet) the Chargers are who make Bull the best possible version of who he is. The choice simply forces him to move forward on something he already knew.

I'll look forward to your fics! I've read many across this board... and... sigh. I even wrote some. I mean, like thousands of words about DAI... I was really wonderfully addicted. I wrote a chapter about COUNCIL MEETINGS for goodness' sakes! Sigh. And I still love them. With a little Bull romance thrown in. <embarrassment> Because: awesomeness.

 

I'd also love it if you share the fanfic when finished! I adore the Chargers too. So much so in fact, that I actually really wish Krem had been a companion. Oh how wonderful that would have been. Heh

 

And since everyone is sharing screens here are some of my Trevelyon and Bull for those interested

 

I'm on my second playthrough with a new character doing a Solasmance (after TRESPASSER DAMN YOU! <shakes fist> ) -- which basically demanded it, especially as I am an elf-lore player all the way), but I just want to say... it's very tough even then to resist my darling Bull, and I will always love him. I was even going to keep Dorian out of my parties out of shallow jealousy (if I can't have Bull, dammit, why give him to Dorian? hee) but I just gave in because they are so lonely and sexy together. Not as sexy as ME, but... okay.

 

Also: Playing through with a Solasmance (the feels! so many feels! AGHGHGHG!) WHY did we Bullriders not get such epic kisses? Just sayin'. Solas gets fantastic kissing scenes. Not that I rewatched them or anything. Multiple times. Ahem. Not me. (although still not as much as Bull's initial "so I understand the signals..." convo...)

 

Welcome to all fellow Bullmancers (and thanks for reading my goofy Wall of Text)!

[EggplantRed]

I've been in the shadows the past week or two and enjoying all the Bull (and Chargers!) love flowing in here lately.

 

Thanks to all the posters who came out of lurkdom to share! Now that you've stopped by the pool, don't be strangers 

[EggplantRed]

Back to share some fic!

 

I FINALLY posted the first chapter of my post-Trespasser fic for my Cadash and Bull. It will be fairly fluffy once it's all finished. Enjoy!

 

Revelry: 

http://archiveofouro...g/works/5318921

[Mengor]

Nicely done eggplantred! . It´s good to see you keep writing!. I also ended the 1st chapter of my fic and I am beginning the 2nd one. But I have a question guys. So far as all you know, I´ve posted everything (all chapters) at once, Is it better to post´em little by little? Does it really make a difference?

 

Apart from that I am stacking enough inspiration and resources for another fic but this time 

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The atmosphere will be the Commonwealth !! Danse will be replaced for Bull and obviously...this time he will be human and NOT a >[(6)´+] synth xDD. I´ve already decided who in the BoS will be the traitor . The idea fills me with excitement already as Bull will be scolding Rhys and teaching me the values and standards of the BoS

 

Argghh I want to make so many things...!! And I have so few time... (. In about a week I´ll have a four nights trip to Germany! And then soon we´ll have Xmas and all that...I guess I´ll take my time. But first things first I should complete my other fic in process which will surely take a looong time   

[EggplantRed]

@Mengor

Thanks! My writing inspiration is completely random these days but I haven't stopped writing.

As far as the chapters thing, I don't think it really matters much. I just post when the chapter is done because I've always done so.

 

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Speaking of Fallout 4 fic, I'm writing some too! Here's the link for anyone who cares to read random drabbles about my first SS Ripley Matthews and her thoughts and Commonwealth adventures.

Wasteland Survival (or My Alarm Clock Went Off 200 Years Late): http://archiveofouro...apters/12179834

[paramitch]

Thanks for the lovely welcome, EggplantRed! I've enjoyed your fics too (and so many from posters here).

 

I was playing this weekend on my new very Elfy-Elf Quizzie, as Sera would put it (a Solasmancer) and it's a lot of fun because it is completely different than my first playthrough. Although she still looks over at Bull, and I'm finding it very tough not to click on all the flirty options even though she's much more humorless than my first character! She wouldn't be nearly as much fun for him. But still.

 

Anyway, they were out in the Hinterlands when I got a repeat of one of my favorite banters ever with Bull:

 

Cole: The Iron Bull, a woman in the last village wanted you to pick her up and take her clothes off.

Iron Bull: Most people do.

Cole: In her mind, you were very big.

Iron Bull: Well, that's flattering.

 

It's just the dry way Bull kind of shrugs and goes, "Most people do" that just slays me. It's just so Bull. I also love how careful and precise darling Cole is to make sure to always call him, "THE Iron Bull..." it's so moving.

And right now he and Solas are arguing a lot so it's painful for me because I love them both. But I do love the way their relationship evolves after Bull goes T-V -- Solas is so supportive. I love the evolutions of the relationships in the game -- the way Bull goes from being scared of Cole, to being loving and paternal. The way Solas and he are total antagonists but when he becomes Tal-Vashoth, Solas flat-out tells him he is not alone: "You have the Inquisitor. And you have me." The way even Vivienne is obviously charmed by him to the point that she's picked out a new eyepatch design for him, etc.

The one thing I wish had evolved was Josie's opinion of Bull. She basically tells you that she thinks Bull is a crass loudmouth who will ruin everything, but I think he shows that he's much much more subtle and smart than she gives him credit for. It would have been fun to just get one line of dialogue where Josie realized he wasn't the person she thought he was at some point -- that he's not the big lunkhead she mistook him for.

[Ryzaki]

Yay new people *throws Bull plushies at everyone*

 

Hi!

 

Loving all the pictures

[Midnight Bliss]

Thanks so much for this, Skarbrand! Especially as I'm honestly quite a shy poster. I mean, I read this whole thread (and all you people's fabulous fan-fictions) while playing while trying to simply sum up my thoughts as I increasingly found IB so delightful and nuanced. So your post meant a lot -- I definitely found so much to agree with (your experience really mirrors my own in lots of ways) -- so thank you! Best compliment ever on Bioware forums. (I'm not worthy!)

You're most welcome!

 

Yeah, I tend to be a shy poster too and generally avoid forum posting because of it. But, between your fantastic post and all the other great comments in this thread I couldn't contain it anymore and had to pipe up. :3 heh

 

 

 

@ Eggplant Red

 

Oh that's awesome! What a nice read. Hopefully you keep posting more

 

 

@ Mengor

 

I'd just post when it's done too.

 

 

@ Ryzaki

 

Hi!

 

 

 

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All this talk of writing makes me want to buckle down and try to write a fanfic for my Inquis after Corypheus death with Bull and company. I have so many ideas for it but I'm not an expert writer and I'm SO worried I won't do justice to the characters, bah DX