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I could see the slave thing working. I think there's a definite difference between a house-slave/slave-soldier in Fenris, a man who was born into slavery and had his very identity stripped away, and a man like Iron Bull, hypothetically a soldier taken as a slave and forced to fight for people's entertainment while knowing very much who he is.

 

The qunari who became a slave, the slave who became a mercenary, the mercenary who helped save the world....

 

*shrugs* Could happen. Not going to headcanon it, but we'll see. 

 

And I can see we can now add Iron Bull/Scribbles alongside Iron Bull/Viv and Iron Bull/Sera as predicted ships.


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#2177
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I honestly don't think IB will be a romance option, since Cullen is 1 and there will be at most 3 (unless the devs go all out and impress us *hint* lol), and Solas and DHMG are the two most likely other romances. I would love for there to be a Qunari romance as that would explore completely unexplored territory. Granted a Qunquisitor romance with anyone will explore parts of it, but not as much as the player romancing a Qunari.

 

(I know I am saying Qunari rather than Vashoth/Tal-Vashoth, and that is intentional as I am refering to the race as a whole rather than pieces of it).



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Wonder how a drunk Qun.. Tal.. uhm, would be like. 

 

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(Beat you a second time Elu.. tsktsk)


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#2179
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God that art is beautiful.

 

I totally love the "Iron Bull as a gladiator-slave" idea; it would be necessarily dark enough for him to not want to think about it, it would possibly give him Iron Bull as a stage name-adopted-to-a-real-name, and it would be the perfect way to get him away from the Qun. And it's not like Bioware hasn't had repeating archetypes before.


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I honestly don't think IB will be a romance option, since Cullen is 1 and there will be at most 3 (unless the devs go all out and impress us *hint* lol), and Solas and DHMG are the two most likely other romances. I would love for there to be a Qunari romance as that would explore completely unexplored territory. Granted a Qunquisitor romance with anyone will explore parts of it, but not as much as the player romancing a Qunari.

 

(I know I am saying Qunari rather than Vashoth/Tal-Vashoth, and that is intentional as I am refering to the race as a whole rather than pieces of it).

I'm not sure.  I have a feeling that Solas won't be romanceable, although I'm not entirely sure why.  It's just a feeling I have based on some of the hints to his identity/role in the party. 


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#2181
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I'm not sure.  I have a feeling that Solas won't be romanceable, although I'm not entirely sure why.  It's just a feeling I have based on some of the hints to his identity/role in the party. 

Actually that's why I think he is romancable. Mystery and intrigue and such all make for great additions to LI plots.



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I'm not sure. I have a feeling that Solas won't be romanceable, although I'm not entirely sure why. It's just a feeling I have based on some of the hints to his identity/role in the party.

Yeah. He doesn't seem like a potential LI to me
Now, GW and IB on the other hand...
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The whole gladiator-turned-mercenary archetype did happen with Black Whirlwind all the way back in Jade Empire. BW has a storied history of mercenary buddies like Canderous Ordo, Wrex, Black Whirlwind, etc.

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solas is bald, he cant be a love interest...



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What do people have against Solas' baldness? That's like saying Iron Bull can't be a LI because he has too many scars and scars aren't traditionally pretty.



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his baldness isnt a traditional baldness.... its borderline kevin spacey in the movie se7en creepy...  maybe its the pale skin and big ears combined with the baldness... yep that has to be it



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No one have yet made fanart of Iron Bull in tight black leather clothes? (BDSM-Style) :blush:



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Has there been any explanation provided about the evolution of the Qunari - where did the horns come from or maybe why did they evolve with horns? Also is there any explanation given as to why Sten looked like a very tall/big human and the other Qunari look vastly different - from horns to skin tone to skin consistency to ear shape etc.



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Has there been any explanation provided about the evolution of the Qunari - where did the horns come from or maybe why did they evolve with horns? Also is there any explanation given as to why Sten looked like a very tall/big human and the other Qunari look vastly different - from horns to skin tone to skin consistency to ear shape etc.

 

Working theory is that qunari evolved from dragons or some such.

 

As for Sten, the explanation is that some qunari, by genetic quirk, are born without horns, and by cultural convention, these qunari are seen as frightening, and destined for greatness. 



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No one have yet made fanart of Iron Bull in tight black leather clothes? (BDSM-Style) :blush:

 

They don't want to steal Sten's gimmick. 



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Also is there any explanation given as to why Sten looked like a very tall/big human and the other Qunari look vastly different - from horns to skin tone to skin consistency to ear shape etc.

 

There is no in-universe explanation for why Sten looked entirely human.  It was entirely an issue of the devs not having the time and resources to model Sten the way they wanted in DAO (he was supposed to look like the Qunari in DA2) and thus were forced to give him a more generic look.



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Tv tropes speculated that Sten wad chosen to scout Fereldan because his lack of horns made him pasably more human.
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Tv tropes speculated that Sten wad chosen to scout Fereldan because his lack of horns made him pasably more human.

I always thought he looked like a giant elf: hair colour (like Surana in concept art), eye colour (like an elf in the Calling), unusual skin colour and pointy ears

Very, very giant elf



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I meant to mention it -- we do have the "rare hornless Qunari" explanation, but that came after the fact...it wasn't thought up until DA2 went into development.

 

Even so, Sten still should've had other traits to solidly identify him as a Qunari, especially since all the other characters in the game apparently had no trouble identifying him as one.  Thank goodness for mods.


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#2195
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I don't doubt that a good amount of it was a combination of lack of time and resources combined with the simple fact that the qunari design wasn't finalized at that point.



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Also, if Sten had horns, he wouldn't be able to hear helms. with was pretty much the reason why he was hornless. 

Qunari were always meant to have horns, as seen by the Ogres. 

 

This makes me curious about Iron Bull and helms, as well as Qun-Quiz and her helms. 
 



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I thought helms and hats just had holes cut out for the horns now? Or, at least, that's what I've heard.



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he has to wear 3 helmets, one with holes cut to protect his head and one on the tip of each horn to protect the tips



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I thought helms and hats just had holes cut out for the horns now? Or, at least, that's what I've heard.

 

Oh boy, the nitpickers who tear apart every minute detail of every screenshot would go crazy on helmets with holes cut in them.



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Also, if Sten had horns, he wouldn't be able to hear helms. with was pretty much the reason why he was hornless. 

Qunari were always meant to have horns, as seen by the Ogres. 

 

This makes me curious about Iron Bull and helms, as well as Qun-Quiz and her helms. 
 

This is a balance problem.

Qunari are so awesome, the only way to balance this out is to not allow them to wear helms.