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[JeffZero]

...Jeff said to Natashina as the nug squealed in true horror.

[EmissaryofLies]

I blame the goddess Athene.

[KainD]

I blame the goddess Athene.

 

Athene is not a Goddess, his just a streamer. 

[shonawarrior]

what game? Inquisition

no final fantasy 13

[EmissaryofLies]

Athene is not a Goddess, his just a streamer. 

 

In Greek Mythology she's responsible for the creation of the spider.

[shonawarrior]

Nice troll thread.  Had me going for a few. 

sorry..you mad?

[KainD]

In Greek Mythology she's responsible for the creation of the spider.

 

I know, sometimes I just spew random references assuming everybody will get it. 

[EmissaryofLies]

I know, sometimes I just spew random references assuming everybody will get it. 

 

Were you referring to the mmmmmmmerrrrrccillllesssssssssss Gladiator?

[Andraste_Reborn]

Hell, I've been gaming since 1986 or so, and I've never played a Final Fantasy game.

 

I sometimes watched as my brother played FFVII, if that counts at all. I've just always had trouble getting into any JRPG that doesn't involve training adorable monsters for cockfighting purposes. (With the noble exception of The World Ends With You, which I adore.)

[KainD]

Were you referring to the mmmmmmmerrrrrccillllesssssssssss Gladiator?

 

Yes. 

[Grieving Natashina]

sorry..you mad?

Nope, you are apparently because a game that isn't released fails to be Final Fantasy or Skyrim.  Perhaps you should go back to playing those games?

 

Now, you go on and have a nice night.

[JeffZero]

Hell, I've been gaming since 1986 or so, and I've never played a Final Fantasy game.
 
I sometimes watched as my brother played FFVII, if that counts at all. I've just always had trouble getting into any JRPG that doesn't involve training adorable monsters for cockfighting purposes. (With the noble exception of The World Ends With You, which I adore.)

Yeah, it's just not for everyone. Wasn't even for everyone back in its heyday. Me, I played VII and then I was chained to whichever others my friends had that I could visit and play when I had the opportunity.

[shonawarrior]

Maybe the universe is all a dream

[Shadow Fox]

Giant spiders in Frostbite 3.... 

I hope they have fluffy legs.

And big, black eyes.

Spoiler

"You rang sweetie?"

[Rainbow Wyvern]

Spoiler

"You rang sweetie?"

Ohmigosh it's adorable.

Spoiler

It has such small hairs on it's legs 

And cute eyes

 

EDIT: I might as well just spoiler that in case 

[Divine Justinia V]

I can only imagine what that looks like, Mercury and I want to thank you soooooooooooooooo much for putting it under a spoiler tab

[JeffZero]

You're doing the Maker's work, Merc.

[Shadow Fox]

Ohmigosh it's adorable.

It has little hairs on it's legs 

And cute eyes

Spoiler

"I'm also hot,poisonous and...Deadly."

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I blame the goddess Athene.

Athena is my favorite of the Greek goddesses, though for some reason I like her Roman version Minerva much more. 

 

She gave us  wisdom, courage, inspiration, civilization, law and justice, just warfare, mathematics, strength, strategy, the arts, crafts, and skill.

 

Plus she was pretty much the only deity to stay a virgin instead of hooking up with or raping various people.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

WTF is going on in this thread o.O is it about FF, skyrim or spider's?

[JeffZero]

Yes.

[CybAnt1]

BTW, in Greek myth, it was Arachne who was turned into a spider by Athena. She had been a weaver of silk, then turned into a weaver of webs. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne

 

BTW2, I think what this thread needs is a few pages of argument over whether JRPGs are better than WRPGs. (This is a debate I never heard of until recently. Granted, that may be because I've never played any JRPG ever, let alone FF. I have watched plenty of anime, though.)

 

Only Qistina seemed up to the challenge, but she's gone. 

[shonawarrior]

BTW, in Greek myth, it was Arachne who was turned into a spider by Athena. She had been a weaver of silk, then turned into a weaver of webs. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne

 

BTW2, I think what this thread needs is a few pages of argument over whether JRPGs are better than WRPGs. (This is a debate I never heard of until recently. Granted, that may be because I've never played any JRPG ever, let alone FF. I have watched plenty of anime, though.)

 

Only Qistina seemed up to the challenge, but she's gone. 

na i'm asking why bioware designs boring enemies

[JeffZero]

They're just radically different beasts. JRPG fans expect their protagonists to be completely pre-established and their stories to thrill them with entirely pre-determined twists and turns. And while I'm of a mind that very few JRPGs post-2002 or so have lived up to that intention (or in recent years even bothered with it at all) I do still hold several earlier efforts very near and dear to my heart and long for an unlikely future in which Japanese studios are very financially strong and daring again and can deliver high-quality AAA landmark titles with these tenants in mind.

WRPGs want you to roleplay, to genuinely roleplay, or at least most of them do. WRPG diehards can't stomach the thought of their character -- and there is far more ownership involved here -- "auto-dialoging" against their controller's wishes and whims, because then it's no longer a roleplaying game but some terrible thing.

Which has its merits within a subgenre recognized routinely for inviting players to craft their own versions of semi-written tales, to fill in blanks and paint the rest of a picture, as opposed to the Japanese standard of offering a picture which ideally players will enjoy looking at.

To many in this heyday of Western approches such concepts are downright sacrilegious, but I'll never forget my first times with the worlds Cloud Strife, Ramza Beoulve, Fei Fong Wong, Yuna, all inhabited. There is something to be said -- or perhaps, was -- for worlds painted lovingly by the hard-working brushstrokes of artists, writers not limited by the myriad potential divergences players desire, but instead freed to tell one linear tale, start to definitive finish.

I relish those games sure as I relish Mass Effect and Dragon Age. No spitfire reactionary loathing from one camp against the other, whichever side be "victorious" in mainstream awareness on a given day, will change that.

There. I'm no Qistina, but I tried to make up for it.

[JeffZero]

It should of course be noted as addendum that some modern-day popular JRPGs have taken cues from the West and defy the all-encompassing classifications I attribute them with. Ask any Persona fan what they love about Persona and strong player agency will make the list, even when they swear off all WRPGs as trite and lifeless.

It's a sign of whose philosophy is in charge right now.