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[Majestic Jazz]

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TL;DR - In marketing their games, Bioware often reveals sensitive plot details that many times ruins the surprise. So to avoid that, I am leaving the forums and not following any DA:I coverage. The only coverage I will follow is stuff related to The Keep. 

 

 

Well, it is that time of the development cycle again. The time where Bioware decides that they want to give away details about the game that is better to be experienced firsthand by playing it and not reading about it in a magazine/website preview.

 

- The German preview just hit revealing some information that does not contain plot details like the ability to choose  between two voices for your male and female character. However, there were other details regarding the Inquisitor and companions that I would rather find out when I play the game for the first time, not ruined by reading a preview 7-8 months prior to release. Looks like many other media outlets was invited to this playthrough and eventually the embargo will lift and a flood of information will be released.

 

- Bioware is beginning to do companion introductions, possibly revealing all 9 companions and core details about them. Well for the remaining companions that have not been revealed, I rather be surprised and fight out who they are when I play the game, same with their "back stories".

 

- E3 is just around the corner and considering that the game is releasing this year, I would not put it behind them [Bioware] to show off plot details that are on the borderline of being a spoiler if not being an out right spoiler. Remember the E3 2007 preview of Mass Effect where Bioware showed off the confrontation between Shepard and Wrex on Virmire in regards to destroying Saren's base that housed the technology to cure the genophage? According to Bioware, media they release is not considered spoilers. However, showing off an important (one of the more important points in the entire trilogy!) and detailing the possible outcomes is defined as a plot spoiler in my book. Also from a narrative standpoint, the reveal of Garrus in Mass Effect 2 was supposed to be a mystery, but Bioware ruined that long before release by confirming him as a party member! 

 

I can go on with many other examples, but the point is, in all their good intentions of trying to market the game, Bioware has a record of revealing information that is in many ways are not minor, but rather major spoilers. I do not want to know who ALL the companions will be nor do I want a small description is their profile/background, I want to learn this in game. I do not want to be shown an example of a major plot point/decision that shows off the severity of your choices [think Wrex on Virmire]. I rather experience these first hand by playing the game. I have a vague idea of some of the locations we will be going to, but I do not want to learn anything beyond that. Like I do not want to learn that the Warden Keep from Awakening will be accessible in the game and that the Inquisitor will visit that place (just an example). I rather be surprised about this when I play the game. 

 

It sucks because I like to follow games and discuss them in the forums prior to release, but because I know that everyone else here will be soaking up every bit of information/leak, it will be difficult to go into DA:I this fall with a fresh mindset. Hell, I feel like I know too much as it is. Just imagine how crazy it will be after E3, PAX, Comic Con, and Gamescom! Then you have the website/magazine previews in between including the hands-on previews weeks before launch which are normally juicy with forbidden information.

 

I know Bioware and I know how they are. Every game they release something in which I tell myself that I wish I had never known that. Good thing for me, I have not read DA: Asunder or Masked Empire so that will give me something to do DA related as well as another DA:O/DA2 playthrough before The Keep releases. Then there are other games such as Watch Dogs/Destiny/Batman: Arkham Knight that all come out before DA:I (Assuming it is released in November/December) so that I can follow and play (Destiny Beta comes out this summer). 

 

The only coverage I will follow in relation to Dragon Age: Inquisition is stuff related to The Keep, and even that I will follow with one eye squinted and one eye closed.

 

Anyone else joining me?

[JeffZero]

See you on the other side, then, Jazz.

[Majestic Jazz]

See you on the other side, then, Jazz.

 

So you do not worry about or mind learning about sensitive plot details prior to playing the game?

[JeffZero]

Nope.

[Gwydden]

So you do not worry about or mind learning about sensitive plot details prior to playing the game?

Not the one you asked, but even if I wanted to do that (and I see no compelling reason for it) I doubt I have the willpower.

[Zazzerka]

Nah. I'll probably end up being too curious--ruining the game for myself--and then I'll complain loudly that they were far too liberal with the information.

 

It's the gamer's way.

[Chewin]

So you do not worry about or mind learning about sensitive plot details prior to playing the game?

 

No I don't mind.

 

It's totally a valid opinion not wanting to follow as intently as others when it comes to the continuing surge of information that will start popping up as we get closer to the release date. It's something that others should respect and not judge others for. Same goes the other way around.

 

I've followed other games quite throughly during it's imminent release date for months on end, and while certainly I was exposed to some plot points and scenarios, it didn't stop me from enjoying my gaming experience. 

[Pokemario]

I understand what you're saying,and I would have done the same but…I can't. I don't have enough willpower…damn it...

[Majestic Jazz]

Nope.

 

Is this because exploring the plot details first by playing them is not important to you or just simply that you cannot avoid any information related to the game? For me in the past it was the latter. I would rather "stay fresh" but whenever new information is revealed via a magazine or website, I just could not help myself and I just HAD to take a peak. This time, I am a bit more grounded, plus as I said, there are games that will hold me over and take my mind off of DA. Plus whenever I feel that DA "itch", there are books I can read in which I have not already done so such as Asunder, the upcoming Masked Empire and the just announced Last Flight that I can delve into. 

 

Hell, I do not think I will view the launch trailer! 

[Gwydden]

You know, spoilers don't ruin it for me. American Gods is one of my favorite books ever, and I would not have read it if I hadn't come across a massive spoiler in TV Tropes. Knowing stuff that you are not suposed to know in advance certainly changes the experience, but what you get is not necessarily worse. And I always discover that the actual experience is a thousand times better than what the "spoiler" led me to believe.

[Majestic Jazz]

For those who say they will stay, well, what if the game is leaked? I remember when Mass Effect 2 was leaked ~two weeks before release, people were spamming the forums revealing major spoilers regarding the ending such as the origins of The Collectors and the final boss. When I read them I seriously felt empty inside and for the first time sense following the game, I had not desire to play the game and hated myself for being stupid to stay in the forums knowing that leaks were out. When I played the game for the first time, it felt stale because I knew already where it was going and it was only my first playthrough.

 

Will you guys still stick around if DA:I is leaked knowing that people will post spoilers in their thread titles to ruin the game?

[renfrees]

I am complete opposite to you, OP. I want to know as much about the game before i play it, as i can. That saves a lot of unintended frustration.

[Gwydden]

I am complete opposite to you, OP. I want to know as much about the game before i play it, as i can. That saves a lot of unintended frustration.

There's that too. I somehow managed to miss Fenris in my first DA2 playthrough, and I knew he was in the game. Playing it without a much needed second warrior was hell on Thedas.

[ChrisRudson]

I usually stay away from the forums when they announce the release date. Also, I like watching trailers associated with the game, it's my way for containing my excitement.

[renfrees]

For those who say they will stay, well, what if the game is leaked? I remember when Mass Effect 2 was leaked ~two weeks before release, people were spamming the forums revealing major spoilers regarding the ending such as the origins of The Collectors and the final boss. When I read them I seriously felt empty inside and for the first time sense following the game, I had not desire to play the game and hated myself for being stupid to stay in the forums knowing that leaks were out. When I played the game for the first time, it felt stale because I knew already where it was going and it was only my first playthrough.

 

Will you guys still stick around if DA:I is leaked knowing that people will post spoilers in their thread titles to ruin the game?

Heh, knowing the taste of the apple doesn't stop you from trying it? Knowing and feeling is a different spectrum of sensations.

[St. Victorious]

Why do people have to announce that they're leaving the forums?

[Majestic Jazz]

Heh, knowing the taste of the apple doesn't stop you from trying it? Knowing and feeling is a different spectrum of sensations.

 

 

I understand your analogy but it is a bit off. The glory of Bioware games is the story, the locations and the characters. Knowing too much of this (for me anyways) ruins the experience. The confrontation on Virmire with Wrex would have been one the best gaming experiences (I know, hyperbole) and so shocking had it not been ruined by Bioware's E3 2007 preview. 

[JeffZero]

Is this because exploring the plot details first by playing them is not important to you or just simply that you cannot avoid any information related to the game? For me in the past it was the latter. I would rather "stay fresh" but whenever new information is revealed via a magazine or website, I just could not help myself and I just HAD to take a peak. This time, I am a bit more grounded, plus as I said, there are games that will hold me over and take my mind off of DA. Plus whenever I feel that DA "itch", there are books I can read in which I have not already done so such as Asunder, the upcoming Masked Empire and the just announced Last Flight that I can delve into.

Hell, I do not think I will view the launch trailer!

Hmm, good question.

Mostly I think it's just that with ME3's big pre-release leak and my having been in the small group which learned its ending several days ahead of its release I learned something very valuable about myself: I don't actually wind up feeling less satisfied when I already know things going into a game somehow.

It was a real eye-opener for me. Even knowing many major twists and turns I still ended up loving the game. With that realized (although I'm doing a better job with future games to ensure I don't wind up *that* spoiled) I've long since felt not-at-all concerned about following any game's pre-release phase. Which is just as well; this is one of only two games I currently follow particularly closely anyway.

I just spent January and February going into Origins and DA2 largely unspoiled and that was a cool experience but I honestly think it wouldn't have changed things much for me if I knew a bit more, too.

Hurry up and read Asunder, it's good!

[JeffZero]

Why do people have to announce that they're leaving the forums?

I empathize; I've seen that to some ridiculous extents. But I don't see that that's what MJ is doing so much as they're starting an important conversation on the nature of pre-release phases and announcing their imminent departure by proxy

[XMissWooX]

I'm in agreement with the OP.

I didn't follow DAO, DA2, ME1, ME2 or ME3 before launch, and so I went into those games knowing nothing about the PC, the story, the companions, the gameplay, etc. and I really liked this, because everything was new and I had to rely on my own observations to make decisions in game.

Ultimately, I would have to have to look something up about the game (or worse, find explicit spoilers in an unrelated area of the internet) and the endings would be spoiled for me. I found that my enthusiasm for the game lessened after reading spoilers.

I already feel like I know too much about DAI - I know (presumably) 5 companions, a little bit about the plot and several locations and quests.
I don't mind knowing about game mechanics, but I don't want to know about the story/characters until I'm playing them out in the game.

That being said, there are several long months between now and DAI's release, so I don't hold much hope of maintaining my 'media blackout'.

[JeffZero]

What's funny is that despite my stance I'm bullish that I could drop outta here and avoid info the whole way through if I so chose.

I'm infamous both here and the other forum which I'm far more well-known on for just straight-up disappearing for several months at a time; I don't own a computer; my life is usually quite busy, even if some of that business is of my own intentional day-to-day design; I genuinely enjoy being totally away from gaming for long bouts.

All told, it'd be pretty easy. Heh.

[renfrees]

I understand your analogy but it is a bit off. The glory of Bioware games is the story, the locations and the characters. Knowing too much of this (for me anyways) ruins the experience. The confrontation on Virmire with Wrex would have been one the best gaming experiences (I know, hyperbole) and so shocking had it not been ruined by Bioware's E3 2007 preview. 

Well, i suggest you enjoy details then. Take pleasure in the small things.

[Mockingword]

Well, bye.

[CybAnt1]

I definitely want to know more hows (mechanics, game design, features) between now & Fall, but fewer to none at all whats (plot details, characters, romances, endings).

 

I go back and forth on whether, like so many others here, I want to know who all 9 companions are before I play. We already know 3! And have a hazy idea of two more (Solas, and "Iron Bull".)

 

On the one hand, I think even the companion reveals won't give away where you find them or under what situation. Nor, even if the reveals describe some of their general personality, if we'll know all of it as we experience it in-game. I'm personally hoping the first place you can find out who's a LI and who's not is the Prima Guide and they won't say beforehand ... but, they probably will. At least we know it wasn't to be on Feb. 14th. 

 

However, they do prevent you from making certain choices. Like killing Zevran when you first met him; because you already read beforehand he will (or could) be a companion. 

 

Also, they have had a habit of killing off the redshirts early, so that can lead to interesting questions. Like, they introduce 10 or 11 companions, but ... 2 are "red shirts" (they will die early in the game). If they're clever enough, of course, you won't know who the redshirts are until you play. Those are easy tears to feed. 

 

I'm pretty sure there will be at least 1 DLC character too - like Shale in DAO or Sebastian Vael in DA2. Don't know if that will be "Day 1" DLC or not. Maybe Day 30 or so. 

[Thunderfox]

I will join you, eventually Its still too early for me though. I want a release before I do, so probably around E3. I did it for ME3 and that went fine.