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oldag07

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I am curious who the XO is in ME3.  Shepard is until Anderson leaves in ME1. Pressly is after Anderson leaves. Miranda is in ME2. 

 

My guesses. Initially, until Mars, the highest ranking alliance officer probably is the VS.

After that Dr. Chakwas? assume she is recruited.

Garrus, a logical choice could be dead.

Liara?

Joker?

 

I don't know.



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There is no XO, although it is implied by Garrus that he's second in command. "I'll keep an eye on things and make sure Joker doesn't launch any Suicide Missions, Shepard."



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I would think Joker, given his rank of Lieutenant.  Failing that, the survivor of Virmire should either be a Major in Alenko's case or a Lieutenant Commander in Williams' and would be next in line in the hierarchy after Shepard.



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My best guess is also Garrus, if he's alive.

 

...I think Kaidan, if he's on the ship, outranks Shepard (maybe).  So it might be him.

 

Rank doesn't really seem to help with figuring out who's supposed to be second in command there. So I'm saying Garrus just 'cause I like Garrus, and it seems like the kind of thing he'd do.



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There isn't one. I don't even think they're going by the book much. It's more of a rag tag crew than anything else.

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None of the aliens.

 

The quiet guy walking around wanting to salute you all the time.


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None of the aliens.

 

The quiet guy walking around wanting to salute you all the time.

So that's his purpose.



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So that's his purpose.

I saluted him more times than I talked with anyone on the ship in one playthrough. He is very professional about his saluting.



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I guess technically, the First XO in ME3 was supposed to be Shepard.  Anderson wanted to use the ship as his command ship.  That being said, it isn't like Shepard could die or anything.  wait. . . .



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I don't think the Normandy really subscribes to military hierarchies. The next highest rank aboard the ship is Kaiden (who as a Major outtanks Shepard), so who knows if there is one.



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I still think its Adams, as he is the only one on board no matter what. He is also one of the few who would habe been there if Anderson really took comand of the Normandy.



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the doc holds the rank of major, unless I'm mistaken. so if rank meant anything I guess she'd be the Normandy's CO.

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the doc holds the rank of major, unless I'm mistaken. so if rank meant anything I guess she'd be the Normandy's CO.

 

Man, every other named human on that ship ranks higher than Shepard.


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Spectre > all on the Normandy.


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Spectre > all on the Normandy.

 

Ya, I can see that. Maybe I should have said every other named human on that ship has a higher pay grade than Shepard, because Spectres don't seem to get much in the way of reimbursment.



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The Normandy is an Alliance ship?



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The Normandy is an Alliance ship?

It does fly Alliance colors. It shouldn't, but it does. 

Of course, it's under the command of a Spectre, built by Cerberus, and is controlled by an illegal AI. It's a strange case. 

 

It requires the question, why would Shepard turn herself and her ship into Alliance custody anyway?


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The Normandy is an Alliance ship?

Yes? Just because some terrorist organisation copies the design doesn't change the fact that the ship they copied (The Normandy) is an Alliance ship. 

Of course, it's under the command of a Spectre, built by Cerberus, and is controlled by an illegal AI. It's a strange case.

And seized by the Alliance during Shepard's not-trial (we don't let terrorists keep their stuff and I don't think this will change in the future)

t requires the question, why would Shepard turn herself and her ship into Alliance custody anyway?

Because Shepard, unlike the average BSN dweller, realises that you can't beat an armada of uberdreadnoughts (ships impervious to dreadnought fire capable of taking out our dreadnoughts with a single shot) with just one guy - that is, Shepard realises that he can't win without the support of the Alliance/Council and going on the run won't help Shepard get this support.

 

I mean, feel free to elaborate on how exactly Shepard is going to stop the Reapers if without the support of the Alliance/Council (who in ME2 decide to tolerate his actions as long as he sticks to blowing up the terminus systems) - yeah, Shepard could probably go hide in a cave somewhere but that's not gonna help matters is it? 


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The Normandy sure does become a VIP ship by the end there. It houses generals, admirals, heads of shadowy galactic organizations, high ranking public officers, etc.


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The game doesn't seem to pay too much attention to it, and neither do I.

 

However, it was at times amusing to watch the fandom wars that would arise from the "who should be XO instead of Miranda" debates in ME2. "WHY IS MIRANDA XO I HATE MIRANDA I WANT GARRUS NO TALI I WANT TALI."



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Yes? Just because some terrorist organisation copies the design doesn't change the fact that the ship they copied (The Normandy) is an Alliance ship. 

 

 

And seized by the Alliance during Shepard's not-trial (we don't let terrorists keep their stuff and I don't think this will change in the future)

 

 

Because Shepard, unlike the average BSN dweller, realises that you can't beat an armada of uberdreadnoughts (ships impervious to dreadnought fire capable of taking out our dreadnoughts with a single shot) with just one guy - that is, Shepard realises that he can't win without the support of the Alliance/Council and going on the run won't help Shepard get this support.

 

I mean, feel free to elaborate on how exactly Shepard is going to stop the Reapers if without the support of the Alliance/Council (who in ME2 decide to tolerate his actions as long as he sticks to blowing up the terminus systems) - yeah, Shepard could probably go hide in a cave somewhere but that's not gonna help matters is it? 

How did turning herself in get the support of the Alliance? Did it get anything? No, it didn't. Why would Shepard think they would listen to her now after being associated with terrorists when they wouldn't listen when she was branded the Hero of the Citadel?

And where do Hackett and the Alliance brass get the idea that they have ANY form of jurisdiction to hold a trial of any form for a Spectre who did not once step foot into Alliance territory? Galactic law stipulates that the Council and only the Council can punish a Spectre.   


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The Normandy sure does become a VIP ship by the end there. It houses generals, admirals, heads of shadowy galactic organizations, high ranking public officers, etc.

 

^ This. My question wasn't entirely serious. It IS more literally an Alliance ship. But moreso, in most RP setups with the conversation wheel, you can and probably will turn the Normandy into something more. That is nearly impossible in ME1, but more available in ME2, and nearly impossible to *avoid* in ME3.



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I´m sure it is not Garrus, since it´s an Alliance ship.

 

Besides, if we go back to the entire debate of "Is Edi the normandy now?" then Edi controls the ship, and what sheppard and the alliance do is to enslave her. She should have free reign and do what she wants. 


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Besides, if we go back to the entirely debate of "Is Edi the normandy now?" then Edi controls the ship, and what sheppard and the alliance do is to enslave her. She should have free reign and do what she wants. 

 

Yes, the EDI thing is one good example.

 

It's up to the player. The overt narrative does push one thing more than other things (ME1 - Spectre, ME2 - Cerberus, ME3 - Alliance), but there are plenty of reasonings to back up whatever your personal decision is.

 

One could, and some people very well do, consider the ship to not be Alliance anymore, but EDI personified, and all those soldiers on board to be passengers for her to take care of, but not to take the ship 'from' her (since it 'is' her).

 

Or one could consider it 'Shepard's' ship above all else, and that it just has affiliation with the Alliance currently.

 

Or one could consider it the Alliance's ship, still, above all else. This is the more in-your-face one, unless you go all super Paragon about it - in which case you'll hear a lot more lines focusing on the awesome Shepard leader than his dedication to the Alliance.



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Technically, it´s an Alliance ship confiscated from cerberus, under the command of a spectre.

 

To agravate things, during the snap inspection side-mission in ME1, you can prevent the admiral from boarding the normandy by saying that since it´s the human spectre ship, it´s now under citadel control. 

 

The problem is that in ME1, Sheppard is made an spectre, and then the council and udina make an arrangement so that the normandy is now his.

 

In ME3, you either start as not being a spectre (never being reinstated in 2) or uncertain if the Council still upholds your spectre status ever since you were arrested. You already has control of the normandy (an alliance ship) when the turian council lets you know that you are (still) a spectre. They did not have to place you there this time.