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[eyezonlyii]

I'm on my telly. That's probably why.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Got ya covered, brah.

 

Some of the stuff is slightly outdated (I don't blame the website maker, since it seems the thing was made in the early 00's or mid-late 90's.) 

 

I do know this line: we were taught this when it came to defensive positions in a fortified structure, typically a reinforcing barrier. 

 

One thing that kills me is terminology: They never bother actually looking up basic terminology for tactics on the internet. Another thing; read military field manuals, specifically ones like FM 3-21.8, the most basic Army Field Manual about Infantry Tactics. 

 

Patrolling in particular will teach you almost everything you need to know to be honest. This guy knows his ****, and looking at his qualifications, I would absolutely expect him too.

 

Another absolute must know is ADP/ADRP 6-22. This is Applied Situational Leadership, and this is arguably what is most near and dear to my heart on the subject of Leadership.

[DeinonSlayer]

Some of the stuff is slightly outdated (I don't blame the website maker, since it seems the thing was made in the early 00's or mid-late 90's.) 
 
I do know this line: we were taught this when it came to defensive positions in a fortified structure, typically a reinforcing barrier. 
 
One thing that kills me is terminology: They never bother actually looking up basic terminology for tactics on the internet. Another thing; read military field manuals, specifically ones like FM 3-21.8, the most basic Army Field Manual about Infantry Tactics. 
 
Patrolling in particular will teach you almost everything you need to know to be honest. This guy knows his ****, and looking at his qualifications, I would absolutely expect him too.
 
Another absolute must know is ADP/ADRP 6-22. This is Applied Situational Leadership, and this is arguably what is most near and dear to my heart on the subject of Leadership.

I was kind of hoping to hear what you thought of that site. You know I'm not military, but I've been using the information in it to guide my own writing.

[Massa FX]

IMO, there is no established XO in ME3. Even with VS onboard in ME3.

 

ME2 was Miranda because she tells Jack she's second in command and Shepard (who is standing behind Miranda at the time) didn't correct her.

[KaiserShep]

It helps that she was officially assigned to the role before Shepard even assumed command of the Normandy. ME3's Normandy crew is a hodgepodge of escapees from Earth and Mars.

[Massa FX]

During the scene with Jack, I wanted a renegade interrupt to contradict Miranda. But... it wasn't there.

 

[KaiserShep]

I can see that.

 

M:"I'm the Executi..*renegade interrupt*

 

S: "That'd be [insert favorite companion] actually."

 

J: "Looks like the Cerberus cheerleader's pompoms just burst into flames."

 

S: *moonwalks out of Miri's quarters*

[CrutchCricket]

Why does the hamster get to have the title of space pet, but the forklift has to just be a forklift?

 

The space hamster is so named when you buy him. It's space qualities become apparent when you really read between the lines through the rest of the series and find that the space hamster has been making it happen behind the scenes all along. The forklift on the other hand... is just a forklift.

 

Clearly Crutch is rrrrrrracist! against synthetics, and must be merged with a forklift to gain new understanding.

 

Pfft. Bitch please. I already ascended and took control of all forklifts for the preservation of Home Depot employees, ending the gruesome cycle of forklifts running over employees and absorbing their pulpy mass to make new forklifts so the employees wouldn't create ladders that kill employees.

[Brainarius]

Ashley or Kaidan. They're the next-highest ranking. I've always imagined that whichever one of them it is, after Shepard dies in my Synthesis endings, he or she takes over. And I've always thought it a bit funny that with the number of VVIPs (the Supreme Leader of the Turians and the Krogan, half of the Quarian Admiralty and the Shadow Broker herself) on board the Normandy, there are way too few advisors and bodyguards. There at some point should have been a squad of Turians/Krogan/Quarians on board and some Alliance Military Police could have been picked up on the Citadel or some Alliance world. No sane force would trust the security of High Command to one scanner and 2 privates.

[CrutchCricket]

Ashley or Kaidan. They're the next-highest ranking. I've always imagined that whichever one of them it is, after Shepard dies in my Synthesis endings, he or she takes over. And I've always thought it a bit funny that with the number of VVIPs (the Supreme Leader of the Turians and the Krogan, half of the Quarian Admiralty and the Shadow Broker herself) on board the Normandy, there are way too few advisors and bodyguards. There at some point should have been a squad of Turians/Krogan/Quarians on board and some Alliance Military Police could have been picked up on the Citadel or some Alliance world. No sane force would trust the security of High Command to one scanner and 2 privates.

 

lol good point.

 

Though to be fair that scanner is extremely annoying in its slowness. That would stop 60% of assasins.

[SwobyJ]

Wow, I actually read this whole thread.

 

Ash is fine. It was an honest mistake. Alliance is 100s of years in future. Stop putting your standards on them, maaan.

 

 

And I have two lists for who I consider to be 'in charge' after Shepard.

 

The first, my personal preference mixed with my more objective view of the script. (I regard VS as one entity and interchangeable - I have Kaidan as my favorite of the two, but not in terms of story placement)

 

1. EDI --- I know it sounds weird, but I basically consider it her ship after me in ME3. I'm very positive about many synthetic perspectives, and only occasionally recognize the military role

2. Joker --- It's his baby as well. So there.

3. James --- Most solidly ranking character really.

4. Kaidan/Ashley --- Not as core as James and too busy being a faux Spectre

5. Samantha --- Not quite XO, but a mix of Miranda/Kelly's role in some ways. Shhh, I said some.

6. Garrus --- In a pinch, he'll fill in. He's not as high for me because while I do his full character relationship, I still just don't love him as much as others lol.

7. Steve --- My issues with the character aside, he'd at least unite the crew enough.

8. Adams --- Nah, but if I need him, I guess he could.

9. Chakwas --- Same as Adams

10. Kenneth/Gabby --- Same as Adams.

And the following not at all, as they have no connection to the ship or what it may represent in whatever way:

-Liara

-Tali

-Javik

-Allers

 

So yeah, I'm big on the 'Joker and EDI' thing. After that, it's mostly spread among the more leadership-ish Alliance, and then the rest. The structure of the ship is quite different than before.

 

I'm one who considers the ME1 ship to be Alliance but with Turian connections (so Paragon but some Renegade), the ME2 ship to actually be Cerberus but I'm NOT happy about that at ALL throughout (so Paragon but some Renegade), and the ME3 ship to be a more flat organizational structure, but still representing the Alliance (so again.. Paragon but some Renegade).

 

Yep. I was Paragade . Though future playthroughs are turning me more and more Renegon - mainly due to a continued strengthening of resolve against the Reapers specifically and nothing else.

 

~~~

 

Anyway, here's the more 'Alliance' based structure, I think... (and again, I keep VS down a bit because of their more 'side role' to the story)

 

1. James

2. Kaidan/Ashley

3. Joker

4. Steve

5. Adams

6. Kenneth/Gabby

7. Samantha

8. Chakwas

And the following not at all:

-EDI

-Liara

-Garrus (well maybe him)

-Tali

-Javik

-Allers

[SporkFu]

I saluted him more times than I talked with anyone on the ship in one playthrough. He is very professional about his saluting.

I never salute him. I'm reminded of The Watchmen, when Laurie and Daniel are talking about that old villain who used to run up to them and beg them to punish him. If this guy has nothing better to do than pace around the Normandy waiting to bump into me so I can satisfy his crazy obsession he can forget it. I may be dating a blue chick with tentacles for hair, but I'm not weird.

[Farangbaa]

I never salute him. I'm reminded of The Watchmen, when Laurie and Daniel are talking about that old villain who used to run up to them and beg them to punish him. If this guy has nothing better to do than pace around the Normandy waiting to bump into me so I can satisfy his crazy obsession he can forget it. I may be dating a blue chick with tentacles for hair, but I'm not weird.

 

Oh man, I nearly wet myself.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

EDI - she held out on you. She didn't tell you about the beacon on Thessia. The Illusive Man got that information from the beacon on Mars through Eva Core, and EDI took over Eva Core. Whoops. I knew you couldn't trust synthetics! Throw her out the airlock!

Joker - He got me killed in ME2 for failing to evacuate. Throw him out the airlock!

Kaidan and Ashley - dead.

Steve - He's a shuttle pilot

Vega - He makes Shepard look smart.

Adams - Has no experience commanding.

Chakwas - She's the medical officer and will stay that way.

Ken and Gabby - No.

 

Okay we're done with the humans and Alliance affiliated.

 

Javik - probably the most qualified but would alienate the crew. 

Garrus - Okay, he's probably the best qualified.

Liara - Probably Garrus' XO

Tali - Just no unless you want the next mission to end in disaster. 

 

Allers - I think I'd put Allers as XO over Tali. She's an unknown. Tali has a 100% failure rate on missions except for getting the "irrefutable proof."

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Wow, I actually read this whole thread.

 

Ash is fine. It was an honest mistake. Alliance is 100s of years in future. Stop putting your standards on them, maaan.

 

Why? I'm military. Ashley (and Mass Effect in general) are "military". I expect them to act like someone who took up the Profession of Arms. And they live by a certain standard (and that's going to be true of any professional fighting force no matter what era of time you're in). If anything, the fact that she's in the future would mean that there'd be even higher standards to meet. 

[eyezonlyii]

Wow, I actually read this whole thread.
 
Ash is fine. It was an honest mistake. Alliance is 100s of years in future. Stop putting your standards on them, maaan.
 
 
And I have two lists for who I consider to be 'in charge' after Shepard.
 
The first, my personal preference mixed with my more objective view of the script. (I regard VS as one entity and interchangeable - I have Kaidan as my favorite of the two, but not in terms of story placement)
 
1. EDI --- I know it sounds weird, but I basically consider it her ship after me in ME3. I'm very positive about many synthetic perspectives, and only occasionally recognize the military role
2. Joker --- It's his baby as well. So there.
3. James --- Most solidly ranking character really.
4. Kaidan/Ashley --- Not as core as James and too busy being a faux Spectre
5. Samantha --- Not quite XO, but a mix of Miranda/Kelly's role in some ways. Shhh, I said some.
6. Garrus --- In a pinch, he'll fill in. He's not as high for me because while I do his full character relationship, I still just don't love him as much as others lol.
7. Steve --- My issues with the character aside, he'd at least unite the crew enough.
8. Adams --- Nah, but if I need him, I guess he could.
9. Chakwas --- Same as Adams
10. Kenneth/Gabby --- Same as Adams.
And the following not at all, as they have no connection to the ship or what it may represent in whatever way:
-Liara
-Tali
-Javik
-Allers
 
So yeah, I'm big on the 'Joker and EDI' thing. After that, it's mostly spread among the more leadership-ish Alliance, and then the rest. The structure of the ship is quite different than before.
 
I'm one who considers the ME1 ship to be Alliance but with Turian connections (so Paragon but some Renegade), the ME2 ship to actually be Cerberus but I'm NOT happy about that at ALL throughout (so Paragon but some Renegade), and the ME3 ship to be a more flat organizational structure, but still representing the Alliance (so again.. Paragon but some Renegade).
 
Yep. I was Paragade . Though future playthroughs are turning me more and more Renegon - mainly due to a continued strengthening of resolve against the Reapers specifically and nothing else.
 
~~~
 
Anyway, here's the more 'Alliance' based structure, I think... (and again, I keep VS down a bit because of their more 'side role' to the story)
 
1. James
2. Kaidan/Ashley
3. Joker
4. Steve
5. Adams
6. Kenneth/Gabby
7. Samantha
8. Chakwas
And the following not at all:
-EDI
-Liara
-Garrus (well maybe him)
-Tali
-Javik
-Allers

I would put Steve over Joker because he was on track for CAG, which when I looked it up, seems to mean he would have been in charge of all carriers in the fleet until he was diverted for his procurement specialty.

[CrutchCricket]

EDI - she held out on you. She didn't tell you about the beacon on Thessia. The Illusive Man got that information from the beacon on Mars through Eva Core, and EDI took over Eva Core. Whoops. I knew you couldn't trust synthetics! Throw her out the airlock!

 

Eva's hard drive was reformatted with the new EDI operating system.

 

Try again.

[AlexMBrennan]

Eva's hard drive was reformatted with the new EDI operating system

So you are saying that EDI was to dumb to look at the data the enemy spy was carrying?

 

As for the original question, that sorta depends on whether you are American

[MassivelyEffective0730]

So you are saying that EDI was to dumb to look at the data the enemy spy was carrying?

 

As for the original question, that sorta depends on whether you are American

 

Can I ask what you're trying to say with the ideal of the American position of the rank? Because I can explain it a lot better than that article can, and I can tell you that it's not entirely accurate in its statement about Executive Officers.

[KaiserShep]

So you are saying that EDI was to dumb to look at the data the enemy spy was carrying?

Thing is, we are assuming that the *partial* data actually included this information, or that the data survived the ordeal when the Eva Core mech activated its backup and attacked the AI core while she was sifting through its files.

[TheTurtle]

That's basically what I have in my fanfiction going on (at least for Ashley). Due to how she's so confused over Shepard, and her dogmatic belief in the alliance to a fault, Cerberus is able to engineer a takeover of the Normandy by the alliance against Shepard. Granted, I have Shepard (to an extent, something like me) being his own worst enemy, with him having somewhat alienated the alliance (and hugely so for Ashley) with his views and attitude about them and Cerberus. Cerberus uses this to their advantage to have Shepard removed, and Ashley takes over (she's like the angry hyper-religious parent or friend who found out her son/friend was gay and is absolutely infuriated that he would dare hold a worldview not in line with theirs, while also in complete denial about their feelings and wanting to cure their 'sinfulness' with prayer and atonement, in this case, Ashley thinking Shepard needs to spend time in an alliance rehabilitation center thinking he needs to regain his love of the alliance).

Yes, I just compared Ashley to that type of person, and yes, that is exactly the type of person I believe Ashley to be. Which is why I find her so reprehensibly despicable.

But I digress; anyway, Ashley takes Normandy, and Shepard has to steal it back by boarding it from his cabin. Basically, it's kind of like Order 66, except it ends badly for Ashley and the alliance.

Whoa whoa whooa there slow down. Take it from someone who is actually gay and has had to experience the foolishness that is overly religious zealots. Ashley is nowhere near that and I honestly find that comparison offensive. Being completely loyal to something isn't the same as being a bible thumping zealot who turns on their family when they come out of the closet. You can hate Ashley as much as you want, but just like how I would never claim to know more than you about the military you don't make a bunch of comparisons for a group of people that you don't belong to.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Thing is, we are assuming that the *partial* data actually included this information, or that the data survived the ordeal when the Eva Core mech activated its backup and attacked the AI core while she was sifting through its files.

 

Assume what you want. It's no more of an ass pull than what is in the game at Thessia. In fact it is less of an ass pull.

[SwobyJ]

Why? I'm military. Ashley (and Mass Effect in general) are "military". I expect them to act like someone who took up the Profession of Arms. And they live by a certain standard (and that's going to be true of any professional fighting force no matter what era of time you're in). If anything, the fact that she's in the future would mean that there'd be even higher standards to meet. 

 

You've never been in spaceee.

 

It's like, standards for military in this international world are actually pretty different than several years ago, in a more regional/continental world.

 

Things change.

 

Ashley got a bit curious in the beacon and somewhat leaned in. The most honest mistake there could ever be. She has great credentials to at least be on a squad. You just don't like her.

[KaiserShep]

From the wording of both Liara and Shepard at the beginning of the game, the data Liara was able to retrieve was incomplete, likely due to Eva's intervention.

During the QEC conference with Hackett, they got "most" of it.