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[YourFunnyUncle]

...bisexuality is male gazey?

I'd rather not go too much into it, not the right topic and idk if it is something that's controversial or not, but...her outfit, the focus on her sexuality to the exclusion of other things, the "wh*ore" brush the narrative paints her with without fully examining it, etc. I adore her, but there are some sketchy things there imo.

Hmmm... What I liked about Isabela is that while she initially looked "male gazey" she totally owned her sexuality. She loved sex in all its forms and wasn't afraid who knew it or what they thought of her. I got the impression that she dressed the way she did to please herself and not anyone else. She was a really strong woman in a completely different way to, say, Aveline, and she wasn't an ornament to be draped over some man's arm. I suspect that she'd chop the balls off any man who dared to suggest that she might be. Her cavalier actions did get the better of her at times but it wasn't her attitude to sex that brought her trouble, it was her attitude to money and perhaps friendship.

 

Actually I really liked that she and Aveline seemed to gain a mutual respect by the end of the game. They had different approaches to life but I think that by the end they recognised that both were valid.

[Basement Cat]

Also with all her bravado and IDGAF attitude she's pretty scared by alot of things, got the feeling we'll be able to reassure her and comfort her as the game progresses. Would like that anyway.

I would really like a conversation with her about her fears, with a chance to comfort her, but also have her ask us how we deal with it.

 

...I wonder how the first kiss happens?

 

It would be hilarious if it started as a joke, then she decided she liked it and came back for more.

 

Kinda like this:

 

[CrimsonN7]

I would really like a conversation with her about her fears, with a chance to comfort her, but also have her ask us how we deal with it.

 

...I wonder how the first kiss happens?

 

 

*Sera sees more veil rips* need a lemme hug you interrupt button.  

 

And do I think Sera will initiate the first kiss, yup. 

[Basement Cat]

*Sera sees more veil rips* need a lemme hug you interrupt button.  

 

And do I think Sera will initiate the first kiss, yup. 

Ooh! Let's have a wager! I bet the Inquisitrix will initiate the first kiss!

 

You win: I write a special story for you.

I win: You do a special photoshop for me!

[Tevinter Rose]

Hmmm... What I liked about Isabela is that while she initially looked "male gazey" she totally owned her sexuality. She loved sex in all its forms and wasn't afraid who knew it or what they thought of her. I got the impression that she dressed the way she did to please herself and not anyone else. She was a really strong woman in a completely different way to, say, Aveline, and she wasn't an ornament to be draped over some man's arm. I suspect that she'd chop the balls off any man who dared to suggest that she might be. Her cavalier actions did get the better of her at times but it wasn't her attitude to sex that brought her trouble, it was her attitude to money and perhaps friendship.

 

Actually I really liked that she and Aveline seemed to gain a mutual respect by the end of the game. They had different approaches to life but I think that by the end they recognised that both were valid.

 

this.

[Bioblitzer]

I'm pretty positive about it myself, the only fear I have (that niggly annoying doubt that I can't shake off) is the tragic lesbian romance trope. Other than that I reckon it will be very enjoyable.

they'd be crazy to do something like that. There would be hell to pay and they know it. I want nanoha not madoka dammit! Points if u get that

[veeia]

I think Isabela was a strong, nuanced character and I'm incredibly defensive of her and love her to bits. I also think some of the decisions the devs made about her were a bit sketch. Butttt I am stopping myself from replying cuz I don't wanna derail. PM if anyone wants to talk about that further?

[Gruumi]

Like I said, I don't have a problem with people who like Isabela, but I didn't really. All I know is I hope they don't make Sera into some kind of stereotypically sex-hungry Rogue.

 

I think that Sera will actually break the trend of stereotypical sex-hungry rogues. 

[Bioblitzer]

I would really like a conversation with her about her fears, with a chance to comfort her, but also have her ask us how we deal with it.
 
...I wonder how the first kiss happens?
 
It would be hilarious if it started as a joke, then she decided she liked it and came back for more.
 
Kinda like this:
 

can anyone tell me what's up with Harley? First she's in love with joker, then she doing deathshot and the latest thing I saw was she was making out with ivy

[The Elder King]

can anyone tell me what's up with Harley? First she's in love with joker, then she doing deathshot and the latest thing I saw was she was making out with ivy

She's a bit...crazy .

[Bioblitzer]

She's a bit...crazy .

well yeah but I thought she was crazy for joker (literally, it was him who inspired her to become Harley)

[CrimsonN7]

Ooh! Let's have a wager! I bet the Inquisitrix will initiate the first kiss!

 

You win: I write a special story for you.

I win: You do a special photoshop for me!

 

I really hope I win cos it would be hella cute tbh, also that line Lukas said "she's not afraid to make her feelings be known on things", hmm might apply to romantic feels too. Plus I'm lazy as f00k and I would rather a story tbh.     

[Milan92]

She's a bit...crazy .

 

That's an understatement 

 

Great character.

[lady_v23]

Hmmm... What I liked about Isabela is that while she initially looked "male gazey" she totally owned her sexuality. She loved sex in all its forms and wasn't afraid who knew it or what they thought of her. I got the impression that she dressed the way she did to please herself and not anyone else. She was a really strong woman in a completely different way to, say, Aveline, and she wasn't an ornament to be draped over some man's arm. I suspect that she'd chop the balls off any man who dared to suggest that she might be. Her cavalier actions did get the better of her at times but it wasn't her attitude to sex that brought her trouble, it was her attitude to money and perhaps friendship.

 

Actually I really liked that she and Aveline seemed to gain a mutual respect by the end of the game. They had different approaches to life but I think that by the end they recognised that both were valid.

 

exactly this 

[introverted_assassin]

Just wanna say...I want a romance with Sera that is multifaceted and realistic for a fantasy game. See how weird that is to type? Just as weird for them to try to nail that down but...I don't want her to be a stereotype because from where she stands and a part of who I am...representation matters. Lesbians aren't written well in media most of the time. They are either always created for the male gaze, which y'all should know I strongly despise by now, or with some stereotypical "issue" that paints them as tainted(and rarely acknowledges society's contribution to that).

The onus isn't on BioWare to create the narrative...but when you create a character like this, you assume direct control. (I just wanted to use those words and it fit...and look at you...still reading this sentence!)

[lady_v23]

just watched the live stream! I'm really liking vivienne. ... and sera   oh! and blackwall is ok too

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

Glad to see the thread has picked up again lol, I see the stream has been put on You Tube but what about the panel? Was it not recorded?

 

 

 

 

:S am I the only one that is not worried at all about the sera romance?

 

I'm not worried at all, I have a feeling that not only will she be the best new character in the game but I also think she will be the best romance in the game

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

I dunno. There's not really been that many lesbians in Bioware games, that I know of. I think they'll be capable of writing them in.

 

I agree

[raging_monkey]

Just wanna say...I want a romance with Sera that is multifaceted and realistic for a fantasy game. See how weird that is to type? Just as weird for them to try to nail that down but...I don't want her to be a stereotype because from where she stands and a part of who I am...representation matters. Lesbians aren't written well in media most of the time. They are either always created for the male gaze, which y'all should know I strongly despise by now, or with some stereotypical "issue" that paints them as tainted(and rarely acknowledges society's contribution to that).
The onus isn't on BioWare to create the narrative...but when you create a character like this, you assume direct control. (I just wanted to use those words and it fit...and look at you...still reading this sentence!)

if could give you all my likes. I so agree with this

[Serza]

just watched the live stream! I'm really liking vivienne. ... and sera   oh! and blackwall is ok too

 

Yup. Viv is really very likeable (in the "I hate the way you behave and talk" way...)

 

But Sera... C'mere! Foresee a younger sister kinda relationship when (if) I roll a Generic DudeBro US Marine Inquisitor.

[Vapaa]

I dunno. There's not really been that many lesbians in Bioware games, that I know of. I think they'll be capable of writing them in.

 

"They" it's Lukas Kristjanson who's writing her, and given Carver and Aveline, I think that we can trust him with Sera.