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JerZey CJ

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Yeah but the difference is that Morrigan never went from white female to black female.......all they changed is either age her a bit , make her younger....or the form of her face . You still recognize her . 

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I can still easily recognize Viv in the trailer.


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AresKeith

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Why's that?

 

Why ? She has a free will..and she can treat anyone anyway she want . Heck even in old BG 2 where you had extreme opposite....kinda of peoples . They could insult each others , and you only had to step in when it came to killing each others . 

 

It mostly depends on how she really treats Cole in the game, because the bolded part gives me the feeling of approve bullying



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So you're fine with people bullying?

 

Okay then.

I thought they said that Sera refuses to speak to Cole entirely? That's not exactly bullying.


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AlexiaRevan

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I'm not fine with Bullying . But forcing someone who is afraid or dont like someone else...to like that being . Is also wrong . 



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raging_monkey

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You and me ! thats where the best party are ! WOOT!  :D

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YourFunnyUncle

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Yeah but the difference is that Morrigan never went from white female to black female.......all they changed is either age her a bit , make her younger....or the form of her face . You still recognize her . 

Er... Are you saying that you think Vivi looks white in the new trailer? She's perhaps slightly paler skinned, but she doesn't look anything like a white European.



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It mostly depends on how she really treats Cole in the game, because the bolded part gives me the feeling of approve bullying

 

...It's a video game. Not everyone's nice. Not everyone's nice in the real world either.



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TheLastSuperSaiyan87

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I'm all for getting into a game's world but I think getting so into it that you let it offend you in real life and then you start applying it to real world rules you've went to far 


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Why ? She has a free will..and she can treat anyone anyway she want .

 

Erm, nope. You can't treat anyone the way you want, if the person has done nothing to you. It's called respect.

This logic is the reason why most people are assholes irl tbh. :/


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AlexiaRevan

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Er... Are you saying that you think Vivi looks white in the new trailer? She's perhaps slightly paler skinned, but she doesn't look anything like a white European.

I said she look different . And yes she look a bit paler..but I never said she look white . Just not dark as she was....then again..maybe it is some 'Lighting' again...



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AresKeith

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...It's a video game. Not everyone's nice. Not everyone's nice in the real world either.

 

I never said anything about everyone should be nice to each other



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hey remember when we killed that kid who got possessed in origins? that was fun :P  get my point?



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I never said anything about everyone should be nice to each other

 

Bullying happens. It shouldn't be sugarcoated; if a character hates another, it's their right to treat them how they want, wrong or right.



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AlexiaRevan

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Erm, nope. You can't treat anyone the way you want, if the person has done nothing to you. It's called respect.

This logic is the reason why most people are assholes irl tbh. :/

But if he creep her out ,and she has fear......you gonna shove a friendship on her with cole ? that too is forcing peoples and is a form of bullying . 


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It mostly depends on how she really treats Cole in the game, because the bolded part gives me the feeling of approve bullying

and not approving cause someone doesn't have the same opinion as you and you trying to make them change and think the same way as you is right? What?.....



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YourFunnyUncle

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I said she look different . And yes she look a bit paler..but I never said she look white . Just not dark as she was....then again..maybe it is some 'Lighting' again...

It's just an entirely different system that they used to render it. I honestly don't see the point in it but there's no need to worry about how she'll look in the game.



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But if he creep her out ,and she has fear......you gonna shove a friendship on her with cole ? that too is forcing peoples and is a form of bullying .

agreed

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YourFunnyUncle

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With regard to Sera's character, they've said that she's coming to the Inquisition without having had her world view challenged ever. I suspect that she'll have a great character arc as she learns about new people and other ways of doing things, so long as you treat her right.


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AresKeith

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and not approving cause someone doesn't have the same opinion as you and you trying to make them change and think the same way as you is right? What?.....

 

And where did I say that?  :huh:



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But if he creep her out ,and she has fear......you gonna shove a friendship on her with cole ? that too is forcing peoples and is a form of bullying . 

 

How do teachers deal with it in school? Same principle should apply here with the Inquisitor being in the teacher role.



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How do teachers deal with it in school? Same principle should apply here with the Inquisitor being in the teacher role.

 

I dunno. Cole's such a throwaway companion in my opinion, and I'll likely never use or talk to him that much. I doubt Sera and him will even be near each other long enough to start bullying.


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But if he creep her out ,and she has fear......you gonna shove a friendship on her with cole ? that too is forcing peoples and is a form of bullying . 

 

If i'm scared of someone i tend to avoid them like the plague. Not bullying them...

Also nobody forces anything, but i'm going to use Cole sometime to see what Sera has to say about him.

 

 

With this logic, Aveline and Isabela were in a forced relationship too? They'll probably get to know each other in Skyhold anyway without Quizzy's influence.

 

 

I personally don't think Sera will hate on Cole forever, Cole wants to save people and Sera too so if she sees his actions, she may go soft on him. She's just ignorant of all this spirit/magic thing.



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With regard to Sera's character, they've said that she's coming to the Inquisition without having had her world view challenged ever. I suspect that she'll have a great character arc as she learns about new people and other ways of doing things, so long as you treat her right.

 

Ooh, I'm actually excited about that if that turns out to be the case. I like to see meaningful character progression.  :)



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AlexiaRevan

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How do teachers deal with it in school? Same principle should apply here with the Inquisitor being in the teacher role.

That would apply if we are talking about a human . COLE is not a human....

 

Come on! 

 

We don't even know what he is , but he should be treated with respect . 

 

And what about peeps who play Evil ? You gonna tell them to be nice too ?