I have seen quite a few people call both Tallis and Fiona Mary Sues, so was just joking that Sera might be seen as the same. I don't actually think that. I don't think any of them are, no matter how unpopular that opinion might be.
I'll never get how Fiona is Mary Sue lol, Tallis hell yes, but Fi.. not so much.
I knew you were, my bad if I gave off the vibe that I was being serious/a jerk 
I have seen quite a few people call both Tallis and Fiona Mary Sues, so was just joking that Sera might be seen as the same. I don't actually think that. I don't think any of them are, no matter how unpopular that opinion might be.
I don't know, based on what I keep hearing about Fiona I might be tempted to say she is.
Tallis is just gifted by going up against Hawke
Mary Sues don't really exist in BioWare settings. Fiona isn't a Mary Sue, she's just obnoxious. "Character I don't like" - and believe me, I don't like her - ain't the same as "Mary Sue".
If Adrian is the Apis of the mage-templar war, Fiona is Nikola Pašić. How's that for convoluted-yet-crappy historical analogies.
Heh, you think it's bad now? Wait til the article comes out in English on Wednesday.
Yeah! Then I won't be able to trade on my German fluency either. Way to try to make me focus on my dissertation.
I'll never get how Fiona is Mary Sue lol, Tallis hell yes, but Fi.. not so much.
I knew you were, my bad if I gave off the vibe that I was being serious/a jerk
Well my view of Fiona is that she is older than most and headstrong so she has no reason not to get into the middle of things. But if she singlehandedly stops the war with some form of magic only she had access to I'll revise my thinking.I don't know, based on what I keep hearing about Fiona I might be tempted to say she is.
Tallis is just gifted by going up against Hawke
After reading her page on the DA wiki I would definitely classify her as a Mary Sue. Her life story reads like a comic book, seriously why weren't we playing as her?
HOWEVER, I will admit that the term is rather nebulous so I can get the range of opinions on it.
And BioWare does have Mary Sues (but again, the term is a bit open)
Yea, I do hate me some Fiona, but Mary-Sue isn't the term I'd use to describe her. Term I'd use to describe her would likely get me banned from these boards.
Guest_Faerunner_*
"Mary Sue" has been thrown around so much it has lost all meaning, and people that use it should instantly lose all credibility for their argument.
It's too early for me to say anything about Sera. I just hope she's a fun, likable character.
what does her arm position even mean?
*Extrapolation*: the two fingers could be the legs and the arm might be a joke of what happened when iron bull found someone he fancied.
*let's see how many people i've scarred with this one* 
You know what they say: Kinky is using a feather, perverted is using the whole chicken.
you just made my morning
*Extrapolation*: the two fingers could be the legs and the arm might be a joke of what happened when iron bull found someone he fancied.
*let's see how many people i've scarred with this one*
scarred? never! my response is, "go on..."
scarred? never! my response is, "go on..."
Yes...paint us a pretty picture.
Game aint even out yet and they've saddled me with this store brand Isabela. This bubblegum rogue, how quaint.
scarred? never! my response is, "
go on...i don't mind a little pain"
Correct.
If she's actually an elven thief, I think she'll be somewhere between Leliana and Varrec. Though if she's someone like Shiane (sp?) from the DA:O city elf opener, I'd enjoy her. Something tells me though she's likely more relaxed than that, from the way she is moving that arm anyway.
Guest_Act of Velour_*
She's probably gonna be the outspoken, rebellious hoodlum with a knack for one-liners and blades who likes stealing so she can send money back to her starving family and who ends up having a vital role in the story through deus ex machina and has a big heart for a player.
Take my credibility away if you want to Faerunner, but she's a Mary Sue.
Omg that is so wrong. Shipping a muggle human with an elf mage.
I personally ship Nathaniel and Velanna as well. I found their interactions rather cute.
Since we're getting more companion threads going, I figure this would be an excellent time to start one the fans have dubbed "Sera."
I know we have little to go on for now, but what do you guys think she'll be like?
I wish she still looked like this, from recent photos it seems they scrapped the look completely
I wish she still looked like this, from recent photos it seems they scrapped the look completely
I'm glad of the seeming change, preferring the recent look more than the old.
The old design stands out much more, i feel like you could form a story just on how she looked in old concepts. Now shes just....a blonde elf. Im sure her personality will more than make up for it but ultimately its just my opinon
I love how some people on this thread apparently have time travel and already know everything about 'Sera' already.
Accusations of 'Mary Sue' already... 
Anyway, I hope they release a picture of her soon! I wanna know what she looks like 
aaah appearances....
they complained when morrigan appeared
they complained when isabela appeared
now they complain about sera about being blonde and her supposedlly being a "mary sue"
we need a trio version of this picture whenever this "appearance" topic comes again XD
aaah appearances....
they complained when morrigan appeared
they complained when isabela appeared
now they complain about sera about being blonde and her supposedlly being a "mary sue"
we need a trio version of this picture whenever this "appearance" topic comes again XD
I died laughing
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Guest_Act of Velour_*
I love how some people on this thread apparently have time travel and already know everything about 'Sera' already.
Accusations of 'Mary Sue' already...
Anyway, I hope they release a picture of her soon! I wanna know what she looks like
Just like people are claiming Vivienne or Solas or others are incredibly witty, funny, clever, likeable, beautiful, amazing characters when nothing is known concretely about them. It's what people do; we make guesses.
And to be fair, Sera's information that we do know does make her seem like a Mary Sue. Her "concept" picture in the tavern has a big "Mary Sue" red flag.
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