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AresKeith

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Was anyone annoyed by the fact that they kinda rubbed it in our face that cass was straight in the voice actor trailer? The whole stuck on the together bit

 

Now your just being paranoid 



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Bioblitzer

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Now your just being paranoid

just sayin it felt like it

#31953
LightningPoodle

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Was anyone annoyed by the fact that they kinda rubbed it in our face that cass was straight in the voice actor trailer? The whole stuck on the together bit

 

Voice actor trailer?



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.... which I worry that this may happen in DAI too.


It will happen with Cassandra at least. She's super important and stuff.

Don't know about the guys.

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Fiery Phoenix

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One thing I'm personally looking forward to finding out is how advisor romances compare to companion romances in terms of depth and content. That is something I've been curious about for quite some time now, in part due to the issue being discussed right now.



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Was anyone annoyed by the fact that they kinda rubbed it in our face that cass was straight in the voice actor trailer? The whole stuck on the together bit

it was kinda uncool but i think it was in harmless humor..

I meant people who accept LGBT. They don't have to be LGBT themselves. Those who can't accept it are the minority. The worlds changing, and it will happily spit them out.

i so agree. One i will be able to hold my head high and say " Such a beautiful world" then chill in my hameck

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Hmm, so she commits fast and hard -wonder if that applies to her romantic life as well... :D

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Was anyone annoyed by the fact that they kinda rubbed it in our face that cass was straight in the voice actor trailer? The whole stuck on the together bit


No I didn't pick up on that.

But I never wanted to romance her in the first place so...

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One thing I'm personally looking forward to finding out is how advisor romances compare to companion romances in terms of depth and content. That is something I've been curious about for quite some time now, in part due to the issue being discussed right now.

 

Romance is probably sorted out in Skyhold only. There might me flirting or general comments among party members on travels but I doubt there will be much romance development outside of Skyhold.



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Bioware already made a game where queer LI were important to the main plot (DA2) and a series where they were (Liara), so honestly I don't think that argument of "acceptance" is as strong(still there of course). This is honestly the reason I was kind of sad about the lack of all bi romances, even though I do think diversity is a better design in theory...if in reality it ends up with bi/gay characters shoved to the side again...then it still has a lot of issues.

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Fiery Phoenix

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Romance is probably sorted out in Skyhold only. There might me flirting or general comments among party members on travels but I doubt there will be much romance development outside of Skyhold.

True, but it's still likely with companions. It's a big reason why their romantic subplots tend to have more depth and screen-time than their non-companion counterparts.



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it was sooo much fun reading those comments from those who tried to translate russian text from the screenshot. especially when "muzhik" (like "tough manly dude") became "pupsik" (like (often ironicaly for grown ups) "totally cute little one") in one of the "translations" :)

 

 

how advisor romances compare to companion romances in terms of depth and content

well, Traynor's arc in ME was good (esp in citadel dlc). our companions probably will talking about PC romancing one of the advisors since we can't have an adviser in our party. but hey advisors are going with us in some quests, right?



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True, but it's still likely with companions. It's a big reason why their romantic subplots tend to have more depth and screen-time than their non-companion counterparts.

 

What's still likely? That companions get a "larger" romance arc than advisors? Well I think that's a given. All romances are going to have something unique, they will all have a satisfactory arc to them. But Advisors, obviously will only really get a chance to develop within Skyhold. That's why I'm thinking all romances will develop there to give all off them an equal amount of time to actually "feel" something for them.



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Fiery Phoenix

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well, Traynor's arc in ME was good (esp in citadel dlc). our companions probably will talking about PC romancing one of the advisors since we can't have an adviser in party. but hey advisors are going with us in some quests, right?

I actually didn't think Sam's arc was good at all, though I realize that it did appeal to some.
 
I know what you mean about advisors joining us for certain quests. I've thought about it but I don't know if that's much to go on; it just depends on the execution of said quests more than anything.
 

What's still likely? That companions get a "larger" romance arc than advisors? Well I think that's a given. All romances are going to have something unique, they will all have a satisfactory arc to them. But Advisors, obviously will only really get a chance to develop within Skyhold. That's why I'm thinking all romances will develop there to give all off them an equal amount of time to actually "feel" something for them.

Yeah, that's I meant. Romance-specific content will probably be more restricted to Skyhold in the case of advisors, thus giving the impression of less content.

Dang, I'm really curious about this stuff. Not much longer now...
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#31965
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Traynor is my favorite LI of Mass Effect, but I think she's a prime example of what we're afraid of. :lol: It is, however, unfair to compare her & Steve to the adviser relationships in DA:I because they were new LI introduced in the last game of a trilogy....Cullen/Josie will be on equal footing with all the other LI in terms of our Inquisitor not knowing them before the game starts, so they'll be able to (in theory! remains to be seen for execution) have the same amount of depth of relationship, even if the content is delivered in a different way 



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Fiery Phoenix

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Traynor is my favorite LI of Mass Effect, but I think she's a prime example of what we're afraid of. :lol: It is, however, unfair to compare her & Steve to the adviser relationships in DA:I because they were new LI introduced in the last game of a trilogy....Cullen/Josie will be on equal footing with all the other LI in terms of our Inquisitor not knowing them before the game starts, so they'll be able to (in theory! remains to be seen for execution) have the same amount of depth of relationship, even if the content is delivered in a different way

That's a good way of looking at it.



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HOLY CRAP guys, okay, I clicked on the Freddy Prince Jr./Conan O'Brien  Dragon Age Twitch Stream (don't watch, they are playing through cutscenes from what I can tell so I clicked out real fast) but they made the Quizzie look like Conan and wow....the CC is awesome.....you can definitely tell its him. 

 

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#31968
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HOLY CRAP guys, okay, I clicked on the Freddy Prince Jr./Conan O'Brien  Dragon Age Twitch Stream (don't watch, they are playing through cutscenes from what I can tell so I clicked out real fast) but they made the Quizzie look like Conan and wow....the CC is awesome.....you can definitely tell its him. 

 

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Wow. Well, I definitely won't be making mine look like me.



#31969
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Conan O'Brien saves Thedas?

 

Sounds legit.



#31970
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Yeah with such a good CC, if I make one that looks like me my Xbox One will explode XD

 

I'll stick to pretty inquisitors :P



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HOLY CRAP guys, okay, I clicked on the Freddy Prince Jr./Conan O'Brien  Dragon Age Twitch Stream (don't watch, they are playing through cutscenes from what I can tell so I clicked out real fast) but they made the Quizzie look like Conan and wow....the CC is awesome.....you can definitely tell its him. 
 
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OH THAT'S SCARY too real... too many bad jokes... cant stop looking

#31972
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HOLY CRAP guys, okay, I clicked on the Freddy Prince Jr./Conan O'Brien  Dragon Age Twitch Stream (don't watch, they are playing through cutscenes from what I can tell so I clicked out real fast) but they made the Quizzie look like Conan and wow....the CC is awesome.....you can definitely tell its him. 

 

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Wow it totally looks like him  :blink:



#31973
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I'm not saying her story was shallow or boring or anything like that. My complaint is that it wasn't 'plot critical' as you put it. Morrigan has the dark ritual and that adds a whole new layer to her relationship while Alistair has 'get the crown' or 'make a heroic sacrifice' as a choice. Nowhere in Leliana's and Zevran's romances did we have anything anywhere this heavy.

 

That's my problem with those two. Otherwise their romance arcs are perfectly sweet and fun. It just seems a bit unfair that the straight romances are the only ones that get tied to big plot events.

 

I actually don't want Sera to be a plot critical character because that really increases the chances of an unhappy ending. :unsure: I'm happy with her just being in my Inquisitor's party and supporting her all the way without any über major consequences!

 

And on the topic of how much depth has been possibly put into all of the romances, I remember reading that every romance got an equal amount of resources put into them and no romance is shorter, shallower, etc. than others. They just differ from each other, obviously. This could of course turn out to be untrue but I'm an optimist!  ^_^



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Dat.CC.



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HOLY CRAP guys, okay, I clicked on the Freddy Prince Jr./Conan O'Brien Dragon Age Twitch Stream (don't watch, they are playing through cutscenes from what I can tell so I clicked out real fast) but they made the Quizzie look like Conan and wow....the CC is awesome.....you can definitely tell its him.

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xD it totally does...if he had gotten the ultimate plastic surgery to make him look young. Can u link the stream?