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[Bioblitzer]

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Well, someone said her plan is still to prolong the Civil war. Don't know if true though.

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josie will get over it once i kill celene

[The Elder King]

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josie will get over it once i kill celene

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I don't know if you can kill her.
Anyway, the Advisors are likely going to support you no matter What. They're Not going To be that pissed .

[Handsome Jack]

ABC.

 

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Anyone But Celene.

[The Elder King]

ABC.
 

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Anyone But Celene.

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For What he did in the book to the elves?

[Handsome Jack]

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For What he did in the book to the elves?

 

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That and more. Celene's pretty vile in general IMO.

[The Elder King]

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That and more. Celene's pretty vile in general IMO.

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To be honest all of them doesn't strike me as particulary good. Well, for Briala it depends if her plan after our support is to prolong the civil war or Not.

[Handsome Jack]

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To be honest all of them doesn't strike me as particulary good. Well, for Briala it depends if her plan after our support is to prolong the civil war or Not.

 

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I don't think there's anyone "good" in Orlesian politics, just lesser evils.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

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I don't think there's anyone "good" in Orlesian politics, just lesser evils.

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I'll be supporting Celene, I found her actions understandable and I like her focus on education and the arts. Briala comes off as a naive fool to me.

[Alanosborn1991]

Swoon

[Handsome Jack]

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I'll be supporting Celene, I found her actions understandable and I like her focus on education and the arts. Briala comes off as a naive fool to me.

 

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Understandable, but I prefer someone being naive over someone being cruel and manipulative. Loghain would've been a better King than Alistair, but I picked Alistair. Same reason I'll choose Briala. Celene would make a better Empress, but the things she can or even has done are abhorrent. End shouldn't justify the means IMO.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

I like Loghain and I made sure Alistair married Anora, someone who knew how to rule.

 

If anything I hope

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that we can get Celene and Briala back together gain, they made a good pair. But I doubt thats possible, sigh.

[jlb524]

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I'll be supporting Celene, I found her actions understandable and I like her focus on education and the arts. Briala comes off as a naive fool to me.

 

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Briala always struck me as the real 'brains' behind Celene's rule tbh.   Notice how Celene walked into a trap like a moron when Briala wasn't around to advise her otherwise.  

[Bioblitzer]

I like Loghain and I made sure Alistair married Anora, someone who knew how to rule.

 

If anything I hope

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that we can get Celene and Briala back together gain, they made a good pair. But I doubt thats possible, sigh.

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sounds like a long shot. especially in these tragic lesbian love stories

[veeia]

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I like Celene well enough but the idea of her and Briala together again makes me want to vomit. No.

PS if this discussion is scaring any of the spoilerphobes, rest assured, nothing new or big has come out that requires evacuation...just a discussion that spiraled out of a spoiler and this needs to stay tagged to keep the context hidden.

[Reaver102]

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To swing this a little bit more on topic, which side do you believe Sera will favor? I'm not sure if any of the three choices really have the common people in mind.

[Xilizhra]

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To swing this a little bit more on topic, which side do you believe Sera will favor? I'm not sure if any of the three choices really have the common people in mind.

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Briala does. Certainly moreso than the other two.

[Duelist]

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I like Celene well enough but the idea of her and Briala together again makes me want to vomit. No.

PS if this discussion is scaring any of the spoilerphobes, rest assured, nothing new or big has come out that requires evacuation...just a discussion that spiraled out of a spoiler and this needs to stay tagged to keep the context hidden.

Ah that's good. All these buttons just scream "Click Me!"

Aside from a gameplay video of Sera really putting the hurt on a dragon, I've managed to stay spoiler free and hope to stay that way.

Dat Tempest mang.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Here's an article on the romance options.

 

It's not spoilery but a general overview of each of them.

 

For Sera

 

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This troublemaker is beyond nutty, and she's also hilarious. Sera is an impulsive person whose next word or move is always a delight because it's so outlandish. She doesn't really think ahead and is more concerned about the moment than focusing on the future. She's not much for authority, and she helps you stay humble as you get more powerful. She's an advocate for people who are often forgotten - ordinary civilians living ordinary lives. She's blunt and makes sure her voice is heard. The question really comes down to if you like what she's saying. If so, romancing her should be easy, but it'll be anything but ordinary. 

[Reaver102]

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Briala does. Certainly moreso than the other two.

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For elves certainly.  But considering who has to do the brunt of the fighting, human peasents, wouldn't a quicker resolution be better for most common people?  Elven freedom kind of goes against the doing whats right now and is a more long term goal.

 

I suspect you're right but its worth a thought.

[raging_monkey]

So many spoiler tags... its like a secret club XD

[Aimi]

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Briala does. Certainly moreso than the other two.

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Briala in TME does not, unless you don't think humans are people. And while she appears to believe she's acting in the best interests of an undefined elven community, the actions that she takes don't appear to be particularly helpful for that community.

Briala in DA:I has unclear motivations and unclear plans based on the stream most people are using as evidence (the one from Hrej).

None of the major participants in the civil war seems to give a rat's ass about common people anyway. If they did, they wouldn't be participating in the civil war.

I do want to take Sera to the Winter Palace, though. A team with Sera and Cass would be gloriously funny. The list of all of Cass's names made me giggle right out of my chair

[Xilizhra]

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Briala in TME does not, unless you don't think humans are people. And while she appears to believe she's acting in the best interests of an undefined elven community, the actions that she takes don't appear to be particularly helpful for that community.

Briala in DA:I has unclear motivations and unclear plans based on the stream most people are using as evidence (the one from Hrej).

None of the major participants in the civil war seems to give a rat's ass about common people anyway. If they did, they wouldn't be participating in the civil war.

I do want to take Sera to the Winter Palace, though. A team with Sera and Cass would be gloriously funny. The list of all of Cass's names made me giggle right out of my chair

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Elves are common people, who are going to get crapped on by every last Orlesian successor unless this ends now.

[Handsome Jack]

I like Loghain and I made sure Alistair married Anora, someone who knew how to rule.

 

If anything I hope

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that we can get Celene and Briala back together gain, they made a good pair. But I doubt thats possible, sigh.

 

I'm curious,

 

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Why would you hope that they get back together? I think Celene made a good ruse, but the relationship was entirely one-sided in truth.

[Aimi]

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Elves are common people, who are going to get crapped on by every last Orlesian successor unless this ends now.

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Yes, they are common people. But they are not the only common people.

And while Briala believes they may have something to gain as a community if the war is prolonged (something that's not particularly clear to me), she undoubtedly knows that even in her best-case scenario, the vast majority of human common people will basically be the warring factions' assb*tches. They will get sick. They will starve. They will be impoverished through inflation and through raiding and through taxation. They will be kicked out of their own homes. They will be sexually abused. They will be injured and casually tortured. And they will be killed.

This is not even an unfortunate side effect of Briala's plan. It is the entire point. As Gaspard and Celene struggle futilely against each other, they exhaust their own resources, allowing Briala to turn herself into a makeweight to gain the best position for her ill-defined elven community. "They exhaust their own resources" means the deaths of taxpayers, private soldiers, farmers, and the like - the common people without whom no government could function, let alone fight a civil war.

At least Celene and Gaspard both have an interest in ending the war quickly with a minimum of bloodshed. They might both be the scum of the earth in basically every way, but they, unlike Briala, are not banking on thousands of deaths in order to ensure success.

I don't know enough about Sera to feel confident about guessing how she'd respond to all that. And I haven't seen enough of Halamshiral and the aftermath to know if Briala's ideas about the civil war have changed. I just know that I want to bring Sera there if at all possible, purely so I can watch her reactions to the aristocracy.

[raging_monkey]

I'm curious,
 

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Why would you hope that they get back together? I think Celene made a good ruse, but the relationship was entirely one-sided in truth.

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and kinda abusive