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#3376
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I'm glad they got rid of it, even if it means that a favorite character won't be a LI for my player character.
 
I'm not a fan of an approach where either the entire team is willing to shack up with a player character of either gender.



I only agree when it just doesn't make sense. In DA2 I could understand Merrill, Isabela and Fenris. But Anders was so out of left field I just couldn't see where someone thought it was a good idea. When I grow respect for a dude, I don't grow the urge to kiss him. I'm mean really.......

#3377
Han Shot First

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Im not a fan of arbitrarily restricting romance options. They can say its "More realistic" all they want, bisexual people do, in fact, exist.

 

You are currently speaking to one. (Though i prefer women, hence my frustration at these turns of events)

 

Sure, bisexual people exist.

 

So do snow leopards. That doesn't mean every animal in the wild is a snow leopard.


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#3378
Gearwarden

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Sure, bisexual people exist.

 

So do snow leopards. That doesn't mean every animal in the wild is a snow leopard.

Hit the nail on the head



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TheodoricFriede

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just wish fulfillment.

 

What do you think im playing Video games for?


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Sure, bisexual people exist.

 

So do snow leopards. That doesn't mean every animal in the wild is a snow leopard.

I find it pretty amusing that the "realistic" excuse is only ever brought up when it's about sexuality.

Apparently people have no problem with a mine full of dragons, but four bisexual people in one city is too much!


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Considering the PC's party is always extraordinary people who are not the average run of the mill I find the "well everyone's not..." a hollow arguement. Most people aren't spies, leaders of a gang of thieves, pirate queens, bastard princes, daughters of Flemeth, assassins, Lyrium infused elves and so on.


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#3382
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To be honest, yes, I think it's great that they got rid of player sexual. I don't like player sexual. I don't like the feeling that an NPCs sexual preference is based on the sex of my PC.
 
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[/LIST]I think they reached a pretty good compromise of clearly defining the characters and giving the players lots of options.
 
Would I have romanced Sera with a male Inquisitor? Probably.


I accept there's those who are happy with the change.
People who liked the da2 approach got shafted, it's not a compromise.

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TheodoricFriede

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I accept there's those who are happy with the change.
People who liked the da2 approach got shafted, it's not a compromise.

Correct.



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What do you think im playing Video games for?

I can't speak for you.

 

For me, it's about a good story, that surprises me and touches me emotionally. That is very different from fulfilling every (romantic/sexual) wish I have.

Sometimes, I find being something denied far more interesting than getting always what I want.

 

(Of course, this only covers the narrative aspect -- the challenging gameplay/combat aspect has again oder incentives)


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TheodoricFriede

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For me, it's about a good story, that surprises me and touches me emotionally. That is very different from fulfilling every (romantic/sexual) wish I have.

Sometimes, I find being something denied far more interesting than getting always what I want.

Yes, and i imagine that being in a fantasy world, killing monstrosities, and saving the world against all odds is not something you get to do in your day to day life.

 

Wish fulfillment.



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schall_und_rauch

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I accept there's those who are happy with the change.
People who liked the da2 approach got shafted, it's not a compromise.

So you would feel better if there were two female LIs -- say Cassandra and Vivienne -- who were playersexual?



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TheodoricFriede

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So you would feel better if there were two female LIs -- say Cassandra and Vivienne -- who were playersexual?

I would be happy if the characters available for me to romance were not incredibly abrasive.



#3388
Han Shot First

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I find it pretty amusing that the "realistic" excuse is only ever brought up when it's about sexuality.

Apparently people have no problem with a mine full of dragons, but four bisexual people in one city is too much!

 

All fantasy universes are very closely based on our own world and our own human experiences. Even the dragons for which the series is named, are based on something from Earth. Dinosaur bones were the origin of dragon myths. Because of the fact that all fantasy universes closely mirror or own, its not unreasonable to also assume that heterosexual and homosexual people would exist in them as well, just as they do in the real world.

 

Now of course Bioware could have decided at one point that everyone in Thedas is bisexual and that would then be canon for their world, and no one could argue with all of the companion characters being bisexual or playersexual. But just as bisexual people wouldn't like hearing that 'bisexual people don't exisit in Thedas,' you shouldn't expect heterosexuals (or homosexuals) to be okay with people resembling themselves being written out of the universe either.

 

Also it is worth noting that we all want various realistic elements in the series, we just vary on what is necessary and what isn't. I'm sure no one would be happy for example if gravity didn't exist.



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Sure, bisexual people exist.

 

So do snow leopards. That doesn't mean every animal in the wild is a snow leopard.

Nailed it.



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So you would feel better if there were two female LIs -- say Cassandra and Vivienne -- who were playersexual?


Yep then I'd be guaranteed two companion romances no matter what & wouldn't have a silly single arbitrary orientation gate blocking off a romance.
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#3391
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Sure, bisexual people exist.

 

So do snow leopards. That doesn't mean every animal in the wild is a snow leopard.

Bisexuals are snow leopards?



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TheodoricFriede

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Yep then I'd be guaranteed two companion romances no matter what & wouldn't have a silly single arbitrary orientation gate blocking off a romance.

That too.



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Bisexuals are snow leopards?

 

They've got soft, fluffy fur and everything.


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Bisexuals are snow leopards?

 

Sten:  Some of them.


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Bisexuals are snow leopards?


Good news for me. I've always wanted to be some form of feline.
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TheodoricFriede

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Bisexuals are snow leopards?

if only it were so.



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I find it pretty amusing that the "realistic" excuse is only ever brought up when it's about sexuality.
Apparently people have no problem with a mine full of dragons, but four bisexual people in one city is too much!


Yeah The other 50 million realistic gates are ignored.

Also given many of the da2 detail of availability were ambiguous enough that they only became apparent in subsequent playthroughs it seems akin to complaining that the protagonist can be either male or female or any number of other facets of the game.
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I think Elphaba'd be happy if gravity didn't exist since she's no longer have to defy it anymore.

 

I'm a bit on the fence about this, and this is just selfishness. It's nice for them to add sexuality, but if someone I like is not available to me, then it would suck. Depending on how many LIs they have in the game. If it's 8 then I'm sure no one would complain, but if it's six then each person still is gonna have 2 options. If you don't like your first option, then you're stuck with just one, and if you don't like both options and you're SOL.  



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Bisexuals are snow leopards?

 

So if i catch a snow leopard do i have a snow leopard or a bi? This is quite revolutionary!


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So if i catch a snow leopard do i have a snow leopard or a bi? This is quite revolutionary!

Why do I have a feeling you're going to set a trap for me?