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#35676
Lukas Kristjanson

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That's why I would really like to hear what her writer meant by it when he wrote it.

 

No.

 

It's been two days. Play the game. Discover the themes and how the characters reflect them. Learn what kinds of things Sera puts behind uncertain language and what she doesn't, then decide what she means. Hint: despite the focus of certain forum threads, the vast amount of content that the characters are concerned about has nothing to do with romance.

 

That "nothing exists in a vacuum" thing applies to the whole game within itself as well.


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#35677
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Can anyone confirm if Sera is required or skippable?
 
Also, about how many hours (at least) into the game do you get to recruit her?


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Edit: it's possible that I read it wrong but that's the impression that I got.

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No.

 

It's been two days. Play the game. Discover the themes and how the characters reflect them. Learn what kinds of things Sera puts behind uncertain language and what she doesn't, then decide what she means. Hint: despite the focus of certain forum threads, the vast amount of content that the characters are concerned about has nothing to do with romance.

 

That "nothing exists in a vacuum" thing applies to the whole game within itself as well.

And unfortunately your reply instead of making me feel better, has the opposite effect.

 

Some explanation why I feel so strongly about it. I’m corrective rape survivor. That I, in loose translation, just need to be f****d good to start liking men was something I’ve heard when that happened. Whenever I see yet another portrayal of lesbian suggesting that she's not so entirely NOT into men, my stomach aches and I cry from anger because I feel that all the men like him are reassured in their thinking and have a good laugh seeing that it’s true that lesbians just need a good d***.

 

I know that this here is nothing as extreme as most of those examples from movies and TV shows, but I always thought of this series as safe haven so even slight suggestion hit me hard.

 

Notice that it wasn't only me who interpreted it like that, even those who tried to undermine the problem did so. You've made it, intentionally or not, look this way. I don't have strength to play this game with tingling thought that it was exactly what it looked like, given what I've been through. I don't want to "decide" if it really meant that she wondered about sexual stuff with Iron Bull and expressed some attraction toward him, and there should never be ANY reason nor possibility to make something like that a valid subject for personal interpretation.



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Can anyone confirm if Sera is required or skippable?

 

Also, about how many hours (at least) into the game do you get to recruit her?

 

I got Sera less than seven hours in.

 

And I played a bit of MP, so I guess... Five hours? And I was messing around, hunting around Haven.

My guess is, she's two hours in, if you rush it.

 

 

 

Also, that crafting...

I've a bow named Recurve of the Woods, with Grip of the Dalish Hunter...

That crafting system... I'm in love.



#35680
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I don't know anymore! I've made a female Elf. I was going to romance Sera. But, Solas... I really like his thinking. Ahh!


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#35681
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"Sera was never" by Bard Maryden Halewell. These tavern songs are awesome.  :D

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*goes back to Thedas*



#35682
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Redcliffe...

 

I'm sorry, Leliana.



#35683
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Aw man... I'm really liking Solas... I kind of want to see his romance while I have the chance... What to do?

*dithers*

 

 

I don't know anymore! I've made a female Elf. I was going to romance Sera. But, Solas... I really like his thinking. Ahh!

 

We are the same, brother. We are the same. I'm really beginning to thing that I'll save Sera for an inquisitor of another race. Solas is so fascinating, and a female elf is the only way to see his romance...



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2.5 hours to go. I can almost touch it!


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Notice that it wasn't only me who interpreted it like that, even those who tried to undermine the problem did so. You've made it, intentionally or not, look this way. I don't have strength to play this game with tingling thought that it was exactly what it looked like, given what I've been through. I don't want to "decide" if it really meant that she wondered about sexual stuff with Iron Bull and expressed some attraction toward him, and there should never be ANY reason nor possibility to make something like that a valid subject for personal interpretation.

 
You're taking Sera's line way out of context. It made her think about the qunari, mainly female qunari hence "he got nothing on you"


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Bioblitzer

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Back at work so I won't be playing for a while...at least not like I did on my days off

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We are the same, brother. We are the same. I'm really beginning to thing that I'll save Sera for an inquisitor of another race. Solas is so fascinating, and a female elf is the only way to see his romance...

 

Well I've chosen a heart option. Romance is blossoming, and I haven't yet found Sera. I've actually been playing (well, trying to at least) multiplayer a lot more than Story.

 

Also, where the hell are my Red Lyrium Weapons!



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Well I've chosen a heart option. Romance is blossoming, and I haven't yet found Sera. I've actually been playing (well, trying to at least) multiplayer a lot more than Story.
 
Also, where the hell are my Red Lyrium Weapons!

her quest opens up when u first enter orlais

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YourFunnyUncle

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Well I've chosen a heart option. Romance is blossoming, and I haven't yet found Sera. I've actually been playing (well, trying to at least) multiplayer a lot more than Story.

Also, where the hell are my Red Lyrium Weapons!

Well in that we are not alike. I'm not touching MP. I was Googling the Red Lyrium weapons and I think you get them once you hit level 7...

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Well in that we are not alike. I'm not touching MP. I was Googling the Red Lyrium weapons and I think you get them once you hit level 7...

 

How come? The multiplayer is actually pretty good. Problem for me is that my internet connection is p*** poor so 9 out of 10 games I lose connection.

 

Another thing. Anyone on PS4 and got the Deluxe Edition. Where can I get / listen to the soundtrack?



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Word of warning (at least for pc players) there's a bug in one of sera's quests where I was stuck for a long time because a character wouldn't show up after I killed some guys. If I went to the menu it would freeze on me

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SO I just noticed last night that Sera' character card changes when you start a romance with her, or at least that's what I think made it change it also might've been a high approval. I tried taking a screenshot of it a few times, but the character select menu never shows up and just shows where my Inquisitor was standing before it came up.


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SO I just noticed last night that Sera' character card changes when you start a romance with her, or at least that's what I think made it change it also might've been a high approval. I tried taking a screenshot of it a few times, but the character select menu never shows up and just shows where my Inquisitor was standing before it came up.

oh good I thought I was goin crazy when her card changed on me lol. I wonder if it's the same for the others

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Also, where the hell are my Red Lyrium Weapons!

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DAI Tip: To find the red lyrium weapons, you will need to recruit an arcanist to the Inquisition. Wartable operation avail. in Skyhold.



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Sera's card changed twice for me.

They all can change at some point.

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Sera's card changed twice for me.
They all can change at some point.

changed as in 3 different cards or it went back to the first card?

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DAI Tip: To find the red lyrium weapons, you will need to recruit an arcanist to the Inquisition. Wartable operation avail. in Skyhold.

 

Thank you. Now I just need to find the soundtrack... where on earth could it be?



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changed as in 3 different cards or it went back to the first card?


3 different cards

#35699
Fiery Phoenix

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I remember reading that cards change depending on how the respective character views you. Since that can always change as you progress through the game, it probably makes sense to see the tarot cards change multiple times in a playthrough.

 

Thank you. Now I just need to find the soundtrack... where on earth could it be?

If you're on PC, you should have already downloaded it. Not sure about the consoles yet.



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"Sera was never" by Bard Maryden Halewell. These tavern songs are awesome.  :D

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*goes back to Thedas*

 

Hahaha, that song is awesome.

My favorite tavern song is still "Rise":