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[Knight of Dane]

How do you get the upgrades?

Inquisition perks from influence

[ruggly]

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It came after I had finished Hawke and Loghains quests and the ball in Halamshiral both. I don't know if it requires further approval but this is after the sex scene.

 

Hmm

 

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I had the sex scene already, maybe I just need to work on approval. Though I'm at the end of it all, not sure if I can get anymore approval.

[Knight of Dane]

Did you do all Red Jenny quests on the war table? That may be it.

[ruggly]

It looks like I did.  Maybe I'll just have to go back a bit to see what else I can do.

[SardaukarElite]

Edit: ok, I found a fix. It is a very silly method of managing war table timer missions, though. Basically if someone plays offline on 360 the clock doesn't get updated so the game thinks time has not passed and all the timed missions get a frozen timer: to fix this, just manually input the correct time, or go online.

 

I could use some pretty aggressive phrases to describe what I think of having missions count down in real world time.

 

The whole Assassin's Creedification of a bunch of things has made it pretty hard for me to enjoy large chunks of the game.

 

 

Man listen...I don't know if I should spoiler this...I will...regarding combat.

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where the **** did that BIG ass bear come from in the Emerald Graves?!? We survived though...Sera, Cass, and Solas...odd party but we go together well and Solas has been so clutch!

 

The same place as the not-an-archdemon flies out of. The same place elves ambush people from in Lord of the Rings. One step from reality, the world of Out of Camera Shot.

 

 

This is really an awful decision, what's the point in even playing after the game is done if interactions are locked out? Meh.

 

I thought letting us play after the ending was a bad decision to start with.

[Artemis Leonhart]

I could use some pretty aggressive phrases to describe what I think of having missions count down in real world time.

 

The whole Assassin's Creedification of a bunch of things has made it pretty hard for me to enjoy large chunks of the game.

 

 

I thought letting us play after the ending was a bad decision to start with.

Eh, I'm not much bothered by the real time thing, since it's just a matter of assigning them and go out doing something in the meantime. I do have a problem with tying it with the console's clock that stops working as soon as you're not online, though.

I have no idea if it's a good or bad thing to let us play after the ending yet, since I'm very far from completing the main story, but the decision to simply cut out any companion interaction when you do finish the main plot is extremely wrong imho. I mean, at that point the game just becomes a Skyrim with party based combat and stops feeling like a Bioware game. And at that point I might as well go play Skyrim instead.

[introverted_assassin]

yeah...Skyrim was great and all but that lack of companionship doe...

I'm not talking about marriage...even the people you could take with you never talked amongst themselves. that felt very...hollow.

[Artemis Leonhart]

yeah...Skyrim was great and all but that lack of companionship doe...

I'm not talking about marriage...even the people you could take with you never talked amongst themselves. that felt very...hollow.

Eh, some of them rarely talked at all. But, to be fair, the strong point of any Elder Scrolls game is the exploration of a vast world, dungeon crawling, the lore, and the chance to roleplay without restrictions to your character's background. Story and companions have never been their main focus.

[introverted_assassin]

So about Harding...

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couldn't resist the flirt option. Sera approved. But I don't know if her response was being polite because Inquisitor or if she might be interested lol! Kradeche be trying it with everyone. Except Cassie...it's a respect thing.

*edit* and oh yes I understand that series is not companion driven. just co-signing that it did feel like something was missing while playing it.

[FiveThreeTen]

About the Verchiel Red Jenny quest:

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I was actually surprised she approved when I forced the noble into my service

[veeia]

Does the banter continue though? And reflect the ending?

I expected companion interactions to mostly end or be confined to limited conversations at the end, so I guess I'm not as bothered by that...most of the companions personal quests seem tied to the main plot or are time dependent so it makes sense to me that you wouldn't be able to do them afterwards. Idk. I'll wait and see how much it bothers me!

[SardaukarElite]

Eh, I'm not much bothered by the real time thing, since it's just a matter of assigning them and go out doing something in the meantime.

 

Its trivial to deal with sure, but that's because the entire system is trivial. The real cost is that it messes up the game. Real world time is the primary resource, so gathering it dictates playing the game a particular way, that is not conducive to good plot pacing, gameplay balance, emotional or intellectual engagement, or the player's enjoyment. In the end The War Table - a significant mechanic and theme of the game - is reduced to waiting for timers to tick down so you can pick up some inane reward and a bit of flavour text.

[JamieCOTC]

Well damn ...

 

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I've past the ball, did all her quests and Red Jenny quests and still just get a "we'll see."

[introverted_assassin]

regarding a past character....

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so...Dagna is in the game. I have no idea where but someone said she was not and I screamed and lost my ish!!

[draken-heart]

I am going to make a DW rogue Dwarf or Qunari (SO I can still have the Tank, Melee Inquisitor, Ranged Sera, and a mage for barrier). anyone have a video of the Romance dream dialogue with Sera for a dwarf?

[Serza]

regarding a past character....

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so...Dagna is in the game. I have no idea where but someone said she was not and I screamed and lost my ish!!

 

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The Arcanist.

[teenparty]

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OMG! Sera throwing her knife at the noble's chest is the best thing I've ever seen in my life.

[Basement Cat]

So, I got Sera in bed with me. The dialogue is pretty funny.

 

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Quizzy: *'well that worked out' option* I guess I got lucky

 

Sera: You're about to. What, can you see the future now too? It's got no panties.

 

[Serza]

Yeeeeah, she's just like that.

 

Priceless

 

I think I'll search Youtube for what she says if you go with Vivienne's and Dorian's suggestion during that scene.

 

Edit: Looked at it... Yeah, priceless

[Knight of Dane]

About the Verchiel Red Jenny quest:

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I was actually surprised she approved when I forced the noble into my service

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She approves of killing or subjugating those that are a problem, it seems.

[staindgrey]

So... I just spoke with Sera (romanced) after the Well of Sorrows...

 

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...and was faced with either denouncing the Dalish heritage that my Inquisitor had been taught all her life and had just witnessed happen before her-- or lose Sera, who just casually called her gods a bunch of demons. I'm not sure how I feel about this decision. I initially chose to appease her, but the result, I felt like, was undeserving. My Inquisitor just says, "Alright, they were all demons," or something along those lines, all cheerful and whatnot, then Sera acts like a child who just got her way and suddenly greatly approves after disapproving of pretty much every single choice I made during that last mission because I was too "elfy".

 

To anyone else who's playing a proud Dalish Inquisitor with a Sera lovebird, what was your take on this conversation? Did it jar you? Was it different than what I described? I'm tempted to replay the mission just to see how the other conversation choice would result.

 

Seriously, I have this bad taste in my mouth right now.

[Basement Cat]

So... I just spoke with Sera (romanced) after the Well of Sorrows...

 

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...and was faced with either denouncing the Dalish heritage that my Inquisitor had been taught all her life and had just witnessed happen before her-- or lose Sera, who just casually called her gods a bunch of demons. I'm not sure how I feel about this decision. I initially chose to appease her, but the result, I felt like, was undeserving. My Inquisitor just says, "Alright, they were all demons," or something along those lines, all cheerful and whatnot, then Sera acts like a child who just got her way and suddenly greatly approves after disapproving of pretty much every single choice I made during that last mission because I was too "elfy".

 

To anyone else who's playing a proud Dalish Inquisitor with a Sera lovebird, what was your take on this conversation? Did it jar you? Was it different than what I described? I'm tempted to replay the mission just to see how the other conversation choice would result.

 

Seriously, I have this bad taste in my mouth right now.

Well...

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You had to choose between your faith and your love, and you chose your love. It's a pretty realistic dilemma and whichever one you pick is going to lead to a sense of loss. We can't always have everything we want. Religious beliefs often are a deal breaker in relationships. Tough choice, but good writing I would say.

[staindgrey]

Well...

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You had to choose between your faith and your love, and you chose your love. It's a pretty realistic dilemma and whichever one you pick is going to lead to a sense of loss. We can't always have everything we want. Religious beliefs often are a deal breaker in relationships. Tough choice, but good writing I would say.

Oh, I'm not claiming there's anything wrong with the writing. In fact, the fact that it jarred me to the point that I had to drop the controller and come say something about it indicates otherwise. I was simply curious if a substantial loss of approval is what led to that conversation, or if perhaps there's a "harden" option in the way that there was one for Leliana in DA:O.

 

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I'm trying not to spoil myself too much, but deciding between the two was surprisingly difficult while trying to stay in character, considering how many concessions she'd already made with her heritage to keep Sera happy. I've been in this situation before in my personal life, not with religion or culture but with other vices, and while it was hard, there were ways to meet in a middle ground, to have a mutual disinterest in a topic while having a mutual interest in one another. The way this particular conversation was presented made it very hard to side with Sera. I mean, she just called her gods demons, very dismissively, to her face without a care. And the only option to keep Sera around was to agree 100% with that statement, after Sera pleaded for her to do so so that they can go back to normal. It felt less like a working relationship and more like appeasing to a child.

 

Bad taste is still there. 

[Knight of Dane]

I don't actually mind that particular choice but in my case it would actually suit the character I've tried to role play.

[Fiery Phoenix]

So was Sera implying the tear looks like a vagina?