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YourFunnyUncle

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*nips in*

 

Still plodding slowly though, not looking at spoilers here.

 

So I'm wandering around with Sera and Vivienne in my party, listening to poor Sera get verbally eviscerated in almost every banter, and then in the Fallow Mire I talk to the Sky Watcher...

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Vivienne is such a scumbag which is why I'll never take her anywhere even if she's actually a decent Mage. She just reminds me of these stuck up middle class types who think their opinions matter just because they have money and some amount of status. I think I'd hate her even more if that's possible if she started talking down to Sera.


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Vivienne is such a scumbag which is why I'll never take her anywhere even if she's actually a decent Mage. She just reminds me of these stuck up middle class types who think their opinions matter just because they have money and some amount of status. I think I'd hate her even more if that's possible if she started talking down to Sera.

If you take them both out, that's exactly what she does. But she's a great character because she inspires such hatred, and I find her banters very entertaining in a "love to hate her" way.



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I love Viv. *shrugs*

We may have completely different views but she's great character and i enjoy her banters and her evil snark.

 

 

I guess i don't hate that easily, unlike so many ppl do in the hate threads. Dat hate, jesus. Some really do need some chill pill. :?


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I love Viv. *shrugs*

We may have completely different views but she's great character and i enjoy her banters and her evil snark.

 

 

I guess i don't hate that easily, unlike so many ppl do in the hate threads. Dat hate, jesus. Some really do need some chill pill. :?

 

I absolutely adore Viv because she get such reactions from other characters and that she really is someone that I can't avoid feeling one way or another. Brilliant character!



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I love Viv. *shrugs*
We may have completely different views but she's great character and i enjoy her banters and her evil snark.


I guess i don't hate that easily, unlike so many ppl do in the hate threads. Dat hate, jesus. Some really do need some chill pill. :?

Well that's it. I'd run a mile from someone like that in real life but in-game I can just enjoy her nastiness.

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Gods are gods. Though i wouldn't exactly take that guys words about anything elf related as entirely true anymore than

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Not really, a powerful spirit posing as a god is just a powerful spirit. All it means is that there might be some truth to the old legends but it could have been easily distorted over the centuries, even the Dalish are first to admit a good chunk of what they known about their history has been lost and what they do know has been pieced together so the chance of it being inaccurate is pretty high.

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I love Viv. *shrugs*

We may have completely different views but she's great character and i enjoy her banters and her evil snark.

 

 

I guess i don't hate that easily, unlike so many ppl do in the hate threads. Dat hate, jesus. Some really do need some chill pill. :?

Viv has a very persistent attitude. I also don't necessarily see eye to eye but I respect her as a character.

 

Not sure who wrote her; they did a great job with her IMO.



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Viv has a very persistent attitude. I also don't necessarily see eye to eye but I respect her as a character.

I don't. I think she has her head crammed up her ass and has come to prefer the view there.

 

Sera's hardly any better, though, as it turns out. It's a shame we don't get to see the full extent of her religious bigotry until so late in the game.



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Viv has a very persistent attitude. I also don't necessarily see eye to eye but I respect her as a character.

 

Not sure who wrote her; they did a great job with her IMO.

 

Vivienne is written by Mary Kirby. The same writer who wrote Varric.



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It's clear that people feel strongly about her, so yes. Mary has done a great job.



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It's clear that people feel strongly about her, so yes. Mary has done a great job.

I don't think that's a guarantee. I think it stops applying if you wind up outright hating the creator for their work.

 

I haven't done that with Kirby yet (unlike Weekes), but I'm unimpressed with Vivienne.



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I don't think that's a guarantee. I think it stops applying if you wind up outright hating the creator for their work.
 
I haven't done that with Kirby yet (unlike Weekes), but I'm unimpressed with Vivienne.

Is Your hate of Weekes based on TME?

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Is Your hate of Weekes based on TME?

Yes.



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I don't think that's a guarantee. I think it stops applying if you wind up outright hating the creator for their work.

 

I haven't done that with Kirby yet (unlike Weekes), but I'm unimpressed with Vivienne.

If you end up outright hating the creator of a work of entertainment then I'd suggest that you need to take a serious look at your priorities.


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Yes.


I think You should Blame the whole writing team then, since I think Celene's and Briala's role in the OCW and their problems were already defined in the Story long before Patrick wrote the book.

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i think the thread title should be changed to "woof", just saying :P


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If you end up outright hating the creator of a work of entertainment then I'd suggest that you need to take a serious look at your priorities.

No, that'd be acting on said hatred. Merely feeling it costs me nothing.



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Not really, a powerful spirit posing as a god is just a powerful spirit. All it means is that there might be some truth to the old legends but it could have been easily distorted over the centuries, even the Dalish are first to admit a good chunk of what they known about their history has been lost and what they do know has been pieced together so the chance of it being inaccurate is pretty high.

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Ehh, really depends on how you define a 'god'. To me, a really powerful spirit is what they are. Just that not all gods are equal. But this is not really a discussion for this thread. PM me if you are interested in discussing this and the unlaughing jester. Allways interested in civil discussion :)



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No, that'd be acting on said hatred. Merely feeling it costs me nothing.

If you say so. Of course I can never be sure if you or anyone else using a pseudonym on a forum is being 100% serious or just playing a role, so you know... I'm not about to start pretending to be a psychoanalyst. Let's move on.



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So I just took Sera to the ball in the palace.

 

My life is now complete, despite my broken ribs thanks to the uncontrollable laughter.



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So I just took Sera to the ball in the palace.

 

My life is now complete, despite my broken ribs thanks to the uncontrollable laughter.

you want to make an impression? You bring the elf, the qunari and the tevinter, there's no way it could go wrong

 

 

also, the name she gets introduced by :D



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So I just took Sera to the ball in the palace.

 

My life is now complete, despite my broken ribs thanks to the uncontrollable laughter.

 

you want to make an impression? You bring the elf, the qunari and the tevinter, there's no way it could go wrong

 

 

also, the name she gets introduced by :D

What happens when you take her to the ball?



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What happens when you take her to the ball?

Sera magic!  :wizard:     



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Sera magic!  :wizard:     

I hope that someone uploads a whole romance video sometime. I really want to see it :P