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[Basement Cat]

Well, my companions are bantering left and right now. I just had a funny little convo where Sera complained about walking through the mud and Cassandra just laughed indulgently. Sera told her to shut up. Sera, Dorian and Cassandra are a fun team to adventure with!

 

I also just found out it's possible to buy influence from a merchant in Skyhold. For a little over 6000 gold I got a whole level. Neat! There really isn't that much to spend money on in this game aside from Skyhold decor. I've yet to find worthwhile schematics in a store. Most of the good stuff is found on quests.

 

Also I killed my second dragon. Yay! Saving the stuff until I find the best schematics. I still haven't progressed the game. I'm clearing out all the side areas first. I want that achievement for closing rifts...

[Ailith Tycane]

[Ailith Tycane]

Also just found this in Tumblr. Amazing.

 

"hoLY **** OH NO I SCREWED UP NAKED DRAGON AGE LESBIANS ON MY TV

MY MOM IS IN THE ROOM……

****

I DIDNT KNOW THIS WOULD END IN A FULL FRONTAL BOOB SCENE WITH SERA OH NOOOO

65” HD QUNARI ****** IN MY MOMS FACE IS NOT GOING TO GO OVER WELL"

 

Good job Bioware, way to out all of the closeted baby dykes to their parents, lol. 

[Ero_the_Great]

Oho, so it seems that Sera is

Spoiler

a little bit magically sensitive due to being an Elf

. Nice.

[Ailith Tycane]

Oho, so it seems that Sera is

Spoiler

a little bit magically sensitive due to being an Elf

. Nice.

 

Yeah, I recall in an Elven ruin she pointed out that she had the feeling that she had been there before, but it was no big deal and it just happens sometimes and Solas was like "huehuehue~"

[Ero_the_Great]

Yeah, I recall in an Elven ruin she pointed out that she had the feeling that she had been there before, but it was no big deal and it just happens sometimes and Solas was like "huehuehue~"

 

Too bad they don't play with it when you romance her as a Mage as far as I know. That would be cool.

[Fiery Phoenix]

So it looks like the relative lack of banter is a glitch after all. BioWare is apparently investigating.

 

Here's a thread on it:

 

http://forum.bioware...ere-in-the-news

[introverted_assassin]

Sera: "Mmmm...the Veil is fat here."

I cried.

if she is sensitive magic...would explain why she fears it. doesn't want to know more than she needs to help stay away from it...the terribad kind anyway.

[Xilizhra]

It's unfortunate, but...

 

Sera is the one person I really want to use the term "flat-ear" on.

[The Elder King]

It's unfortunate, but...
 
Sera is the one person I really want to use the term "flat-ear" on.

Why? Because she hates Elven culture?

[Xilizhra]

Why? Because she hates Elven culture?

To the point of bigotry and cruelty.

[Aimi]

It's unfortunate, but...
 
Sera is the one person I really want to use the term "flat-ear" on.

I suppose that's better than your earlier proposal of threatening to chuck her into the Fade and leave her there. Name-calling is significantly healthier. Still comes from a weird place, but healthier.

Why? Because she hates Elven culture?

Like you, the Dalish mostly don't distinguish between "Dalish" culture and "elven" culture. For them, "elven culture" is their culture, regardless of what other elves happen to think. That's one of the reasons Sera isn't a fan.

[Xilizhra]

I suppose that's better than your earlier proposal of threatening to chuck her into the Fade and leave her there. Name-calling is significantly healthier. Still comes from a weird place, but healthier.

I actually made that post later, after learning the entirety of that dialogue.

 

 

Like you, the Dalish mostly don't distinguish between "Dalish" culture and "elven" culture. For them, "elven culture" is their culture, regardless of what other elves happen to think. That's one of the reasons Sera isn't a fan.

Why would Sera care? She doesn't like city elves either.

[rubynorman]

We need more Sera fanarts in here, too bad I don't have the skill

[Moondoggie]

Also just found this in Tumblr. Amazing.

 

"hoLY **** OH NO I SCREWED UP NAKED DRAGON AGE LESBIANS ON MY TV

MY MOM IS IN THE ROOM……

****

I DIDNT KNOW THIS WOULD END IN A FULL FRONTAL BOOB SCENE WITH SERA OH NOOOO

65” HD QUNARI ****** IN MY MOMS FACE IS NOT GOING TO GO OVER WELL"

 

Good job Bioware, way to out all of the closeted baby dykes to their parents, lol. 

Ah i remember when that happened. Then i ran away to University and my parents didn't call me for a long time. Which was somewhat ironic since one of my Mum's best friends that she had known for years was also a lesbian. Different when it's your own kids i guess XD.

[Basement Cat]

Mmh... About Sera... (actual spoilers in the spoiler)

 

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I'm disappointed that she gets no character growth whatsoever over the story. She starts off as an immature prankster and remains an immature prankster. Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, Zevran, Fenris, Isabela, Merril, Anders (for the worse, admittedly) all went through character development over their stories. I can't say about the other LIs in DAI since I haven't checked them. It's a little unfortunate that Sera would just stay the same. Unless it's part of her personality to be unable to grow? Pity.

 

Any attempt to call her out on her hypocrisy/cruelty (Solassians know what I'm talking about) goes right over her head or is petulantly brushed aside. She sounds less about being 'for the people' and more about taking petty revenge on nobles because her adopted mother lied to her about those stupid cookies.

 

I wouldn't have minded as much if she'd actually gotten worse about it. At least it would have been something. She's a pretty static character.

[Moondoggie]

We need more Sera fanarts in here, too bad I don't have the skill

If i could actually draw I'd so draw this idea i had in my head of my usual party going through one of the scary Temples in the game. Iron Bull and Blackwall are chopping off Corpse heads and bro fisting  while Sera is on Bull's shoulders holding his horns terrified of all the demons and evil magic and my Inquisitor is up front holding the torch with a "Why am i here?" face. I should probably get it commissioned even though if i get something commissioned of Sera it's probably going to end up being porn >.>

[Hekate]

Ok, I have to ask, did anyone who played a Dwarf Inquisitor record the scene between you and Sera when we first arrive at Skyhold? I love that scene because she calls the Inquisitor Ducky, but it turns out my recording screwed up and I have no saves from before anymore. And I have a very big need to have that scene in some form without having to redo my whole game. Ducky...

[Moondoggie]

Mmh... About Sera... (actual spoilers in the spoiler)

 

Spoiler

I'm disappointed that she gets no character growth whatsoever over the story. She starts off as an immature prankster and remains an immature prankster. Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, Zevran, Fenris, Isabela, Merril, Anders (for the worse, admittedly) all went through character development over their stories. I can't say about the other LIs in DAI since I haven't checked them. It's a little unfortunate that Sera would just stay the same. Unless it's part of her personality to be unable to grow? Pity.

 

Any attempt to call her out on her hypocrisy/cruelty (Solassians know what I'm talking about) goes right over her head or is petulantly brushed aside. She sounds less about being 'for the people' and more about taking petty revenge on nobles because her adopted mother lied to her about those stupid cookies.

 

I wouldn't have minded as much if she'd actually gotten worse about it. At least it would have been something. She's a pretty static character.

Spoiler

Yeah i can agree there. It's the one thing about her romance i felt let down by to a point my Inquisitor had to do the character growth in her place which is not normally how these things go in Dragon Age. When it came down to a big argument over events at the Temple of Mythal my Inquisitor after arguing with Sera was faced with a choice of stubbornly insisting she was right or telling a little white lie to spare Sera's feelings by telling her what she believes is wrong.

It would have been better if Sera was backed into a corner where she decides that for herself instead of always stubbornly insisting she has to be right. Her views are so black and white and even characters that had black and white views such as Sten in the past were able to grow and change through getting to know the MC. Through experiences in the game Sera should have been able to somewhat mature and not be so petty and difficult.

Dealing with Sera is at times like dealing with a small child except that she isn't. The writers should have perhaps done better with that and gave her some sort of possible character growth especially during the romance. If she's romancing a Dailish Elf she should have become more reasonable.

Merrill's rivalry romance is my favorite romance storyline in the entire Dragon Age series because of the amount of character growth Merrill gets from it. She and Hawke fight constantly over her beliefs while developing their attraction and relationship then when things come to a head Merrill finally sees that Hawke is only trying to protect her and save her from herself because Hawke really loves her and she admits she was wrong.

In the case of Sera my Inquisitor had to become more accepting of her beliefs and care more for her than about being right. It should have been the other way around.

[Basement Cat]

Spoiler

Yeah i can agree there. It's the one thing about her romance i felt let down by to a point my Inquisitor had to do the character growth in her place which is not normally how these things go in Dragon Age. When it came down to a big argument over events at the Temple of Mythal my Inquisitor after arguing with Sera was faced with a choice of stubbornly insisting she was right or telling a little white lie to spare Sera's feelings by telling her what she believes is wrong.

It would have been better if Sera was backed into a corner where she decides that for herself instead of always stubbornly insisting she has to be right. Her views are so black and white and even characters that had black and white views such as Sten in the past were able to grow and change through getting to know the MC. Through experiences in the game Sera should have been able to somewhat mature and not be so petty and difficult.

Dealing with Sera is at times like dealing with a small child except that she isn't. The writers should have perhaps done better with that and gave her some sort of possible character growth especially during the romance. If she's romancing a Dailish Elf she should have become more reasonable.

Merrill's rivalry romance is my favorite romance storyline in the entire Dragon Age series because of the amount of character growth Merrill gets from it. She and Hawke fight constantly over her beliefs while developing their attraction and relationship then when things come to a head Merrill finally sees that Hawke is only trying to protect her and save her from herself because Hawke really loves her and she admits she was wrong.

In the case of Sera my Inquisitor had to become more accepting of her beliefs and care more for her than about being right. It should have been the other way around.

Spoiler

Or it could have been halfway. Both Sera and the Inquisitor make concessions over certain things. While it is realistic for beliefs to come in the way of a relationship, it makes the resulting drama seem a little... forced? I don't know, it feels a little unfulfilling to have to go 'agree 100% or bust'. It's a shame too because Sera has so much potential. She's pretty smart even if she says otherwise. To me her biggest flaw is her lack of empathy. She seems to care more about getting her kicks than helping the little people.

 

I guess I miss playing therapist to my companions. 

Ironically we can play therapist with Leliana. Sera needs more flexibility of mind while Leliana needs less.

[Moondoggie]

Spoiler

Or it could have been halfway. Both Sera and the Inquisitor make concessions over certain things. While it is realistic for beliefs to come in the way of a relationship, it makes the resulting drama seem a little... forced? I don't know, it feels a little unfulfilling to have to go 'agree 100% or bust'. It's a shame too because Sera has so much potential. She's pretty smart even if she says otherwise. To me her biggest flaw is her lack of empathy. She seems to care more about getting her kicks than helping the little people.

 

I guess I miss playing therapist to my companions. 

Ironically we can play therapist with Leliana. Sera needs more flexibility of mind while Leliana needs less.

Spoiler

Yeah i can see where you are coming from. Pre release she was painted as sort of a Robin Hood type of character looking out for the people nobody cares about with everything going on. She even explains as much when you meet her that all the big important people are at the top then you have all the generals,nobles and so on that get the day to day things done and she's at the bottom taking care of things at street level.

Come to think of it why did Bioware refuse to let us deal with her personal issues and delve deeper into them? She obviously has problems related to her past that hurt her and she opens up about it and then.....Never speaks of it again. If you try to talk to her she stubbornly brushes you off but i was hoping that  she would open up to you about it later especially during her crisis point after the Temple or after her personal quest where she's really upset.

Instead of a protector of commoners she's just taking her personal issues out on nobility even if what she does helps little people get even or gets rid of troublesome nobles her whole reason to do it seems kind of petty and childish. Was hoping it to be something really sad and horrible like a Noble killed her parents in Denerim and hurt her and she couldn't do anything because he's a Noble and she's just an Elf at the bottom of the pile so she chooses to fight for powerless people. Not "My foster Mother couldn't make cookies for me so she secretly had somebody else make them and lied that she did it to make me happy" Okay trying to hide it by telling her that the baker hates Elves and making her feel bad towards him sucks but is it enough to start a campaign to kill Nobles?

[Basement Cat]

Spoiler

Yeah i can see where you are coming from. Pre release she was painted as sort of a Robin Hood type of character looking out for the people nobody cares about with everything going on. She even explains as much when you meet her that all the big important people are at the top then you have all the generals,nobles and so on that get the day to day things done and she's at the bottom taking care of things at street level.

Come to think of it why did Bioware refuse to let us deal with her personal issues and delve deeper into them? She obviously has problems related to her past that hurt her and she opens up about it and then.....Never speaks of it again. If you try to talk to her she stubbornly brushes you off but i was hoping that later she would open up to you about it later especially during her crisis point after the Temple or after her personal quest where she's really upset.

Instead of a protector of commoners she's just taking her personal issues out on nobility even if what she does helps little people get even or gets rid of troublesome nobles her whole reason to do it seems kind of petty and childish. Was hoping it to be something really sad and horrible like a Noble killed her parents in Denerim and hurt her and she couldn't do anything because he's a Noble and she's just an Elf at the bottom of the pile so she chooses to fight for powerless people. Not "My foster Mother couldn't make cookies for me so she secretly had somebody else make them and told them she did it to make me happy" Okay trying to hide it by telling her that the baker hates Elves and making her feel bad towards him sucks but is it enough to start a campaign to kill Nobles?

Spoiler

Since I like playing therapist: Sera seems to suffer from antisocial personality disorder.

 

• Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
• Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
• Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
• Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
• Reckless disregard for safety of self or others
• Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations
• Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

Sounds about right, don't you think?

[WildOrchid]

Mmh... About Sera... (actual spoilers in the spoiler)

 

Spoiler

I'm disappointed that she gets no character growth whatsoever over the story. She starts off as an immature prankster and remains an immature prankster. Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, Zevran, Fenris, Isabela, Merril, Anders (for the worse, admittedly) all went through character development over their stories. I can't say about the other LIs in DAI since I haven't checked them. It's a little unfortunate that Sera would just stay the same. Unless it's part of her personality to be unable to grow? Pity.

 

Any attempt to call her out on her hypocrisy/cruelty (Solassians know what I'm talking about) goes right over her head or is petulantly brushed aside. She sounds less about being 'for the people' and more about taking petty revenge on nobles because her adopted mother lied to her about those stupid cookies.

 

I wouldn't have minded as much if she'd actually gotten worse about it. At least it would have been something. She's a pretty static character.

 

Yeah, that's the only problem i had with Sera.... other than that, she's an enjoyable romance and good company outside of skyhold.

 

 

Also... i finished the game. D:

[YourFunnyUncle]

Also just found this in Tumblr. Amazing.

 

"hoLY **** OH NO I SCREWED UP NAKED DRAGON AGE LESBIANS ON MY TV

MY MOM IS IN THE ROOM……

****

I DIDNT KNOW THIS WOULD END IN A FULL FRONTAL BOOB SCENE WITH SERA OH NOOOO

65” HD QUNARI ****** IN MY MOMS FACE IS NOT GOING TO GO OVER WELL"

 

Good job Bioware, way to out all of the closeted baby dykes to their parents, lol. 

Lesson: Read the ESRB rating.

[Basement Cat]

Yeah, that's the only problem i had with Sera.... other than that, she's an enjoyable romance and good company outside of skyhold.

 

 

Also... i finished the game. D:

Disappointed or...?