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[Wissenschaft 2.0]

Opps, I was just playing Skyrim yesterday to test out a mod..................................

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT!

 

That is the one major issue I have with DA: I, the complete lack of mod support. I still play skyrim because of the ton of mods that are still coming out for it even today.

[Basement Cat]

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Yes sadly, i got that feeling too... Hopefully if they do a companion DLC, she'll kinda grow up as a character thanks to inquisitor influencing her (more, if romanced because reasons). Don't get me wrong, i like her, yet i feel she didn't get any growth in terms of opinions.... everyone else did. :/

 

 

Glad i'm not the only one who thought she got less material than the others.... that sucks so much. First lesbian companion in a bioware game and gets this treatment.

That's the impression I get too. I'm feeling a little let down to be honest. Oh well, I'm about to start my second game with a better looking Ragequisitor this time. (I think...)

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

That's the impression I get too. I'm feeling a little let down to be honest. Oh well, I'm about to start my second game with a better looking Ragequisitor this time. (I think...)

 

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To be fair, Sera is not the type of personality to have a lot of depth. Shes not hiding secrets, shes not holding baggage from previous events in her life. Shes out to screw nobles and have fun, if she can save the world while doing so then BONUS. It does feel like a rather childish or flippant view of life though. I can certainly see why some people are turned off by what they see as a childish brat. But I think thats a bit too hard on Sera, after all, she stays the course with Inquisition after all.

 

That said, for the first Lesbian companion, I can see how Sera can seem like a let down compared to Dorian as the first gay companion and what happens in it.

[dgcatanisiri]

Re: the conversation near the end that everyone is talking about...

 

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You CAN tread a middle ground, or at least I managed it as a human. You can respond that some of the things might be true, which gets "slight disapproval" and Sera calling you stupid, at which point you can ask "Will this come between us?" which gets slight approval and something to the effect of "I'm not going to break up with you just because you're stupid about this."

So, you know, it's still not great, but at least you can agree to disagree, in her usual obnoxious manner.

I also felt like she was a little underdeveloped in terms of story, but I also like that she doesn't come with a ton of baggage, elfy hangups aside. But you guys are right, it seems like you get the simplest companion quests and the least insights into the character with her. It's almost like she's a DLC character, somebody totally optional, which I guess she sort of is, considering that unlike everyone else, you can kick her out of the Inquisition at any time. It's like they were afraid to spend any effort on her in case everybody really hated her. Hopefully she'll be expanded on in DLC.

 

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That 'elfy hangups' bit, though, seems like it should be a really major thing, at least for me. She's all about the little people, the people who are put down. But that amounts, from what I've seen, her essentially believing that elves shouldn't distinguish themselves from humans, give up everything that separates their cultures. It's hypocritical, and I"m certainly not claiming that companions haven't been hypocritical before, but there's no real opportunity for us to call her on it or see her opinions shift and change.

 

Her ranting about the Temple of Mythal proving the Dalish to be wrong was the first time that it came up in game for me, playing as a male qunari. For me, this felt like something that should kick off character development, a recurring conversational path through the game, placed at the end of a character arc. It just... it feels like if this was going to be such a major thing in her characterization, her dislike of 'elfy' things, there SHOULD have been more development. It just really makes her character feel half-realized and unfinished.

 

I will second the idea of a DLC expansion that gives her more, because as it is, she comes across as self-loathing for her own race, the kind of person who tells other people in her minority group 'stop being stereotypical' if they do the slightest thing that she considers stereotypical.

[Serza]

We can see them around Skyhold?

 

Yeah. They said long time before release that the only tie MP would have into SP would be the ability to find the MP characters around Skyhold.

 

So if you play MP, you'll go like "Oh yeah, that's that and that person!" but if you don't play MP you'll go like "Oh, another random NPC #258746!"

So, yes. You can find them. Can't even initiate conversation, though. They're there just for the sake of appearance.

Well, Neria is. Haven't found the others yet.

[CrazyRah]

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To be fair, Sera is not the type of personality to have a lot of depth to. Shes not hiding secrets, shes not holding baggage from previous events in her life. Shes out to screw nobles and have fun, if she can save the world while doing so the BONUS. It does feel like a rather childish or flippant view of life though. I can certainly see why some people are turned off by what they see as a childish brat. But I think thats a bit too hard on Sera, after all, she stays the course with Inquisition after all.

 

That said, for the first Lesbian companion, I can see how Sera can seem like a let down compared to Dorian as the first gay companion and what happens in it.

 

Very well said!

[WildOrchid]

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To be fair, Sera is not the type of personality to have a lot of depth. Shes not hiding secrets, shes not holding baggage from previous events in her life. Shes out to screw nobles and have fun, if she can save the world while doing so then BONUS. It does feel like a rather childish or flippant view of life though. I can certainly see why some people are turned off by what they see as a childish brat. But I think thats a bit too hard on Sera, after all, she stays the course with Inquisition after all.

 

That said, for the first Lesbian companion, I can see how Sera can seem like a let down compared to Dorian as the first gay companion and what happens in it.

 

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While good points, i'd like some character growth, just like everyone else has gotten in some point. Hell, even Vivienne changed her views when she became divine, i'd expect her to be worse than even Leliana, yet she managed to do good.

 

I don't want Sera to lose her humor or her cheery personality and joke/tease her companions (those are the traits i really like on her), just.... be more sympathetic and thoughtful. Everyone grows up in life at some point, living with some ppl with different views can help her see the life in different point of view. I mean i can understand her hatred with dalish elves and their culture but she could be more.... careful in what she says. Like, speaking with honesty but in a more careful manner, you know?

 

Also her being the only companion that can be thrown out of the inquisition anytime we desire, her having some limited content i think, compared to other romanceable characters is quite a let down and it's sad. :/ (i may be very wrong with the latter though)

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

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While good points, i'd like some character growth, just like everyone else has gotten in some point. Hell, even Vivienne changed her views when she became divine, i'd expect her to be worse than even Leliana, yet she managed to do good.

 

I don't want Sera to lose her humor or her cheery personality and joke/tease her companions (those are the traits i really like on her), just.... be more sympathetic and thoughtful. Everyone grows up in life at some point, living with some ppl with different views can help her see the life in different point of view. I mean i can understand her hatred with dalish elves and their culture but she could be more.... careful in what she says. Like, speaking with honesty but in a more careful manner, you know?

 

Also her being the only companion that can be thrown out of the inquisition anytime we desire, her having some limited content i think, compared to other romanceable characters is quite a let down and it's sad. :/ (i may be very wrong with the latter though)

 

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Actually, you can make a kinder Leliana become Divine and she will manage to unite the chantry through her inspiring words. So Leliana for Divine can be a positive outcome, especially for all those who want Mage independence.

 

As for Sera's romance, it certainly seems a let down or should I say unimpactful compared to Dorian's romance arc. I can't explain why without spoiling Dorian's romance.

[AresKeith]

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While good points, i'd like some character growth, just like everyone else has gotten in some point. Hell, even Vivienne changed her views when she became divine, i'd expect her to be worse than even Leliana, yet she managed to do good.

 

I don't want Sera to lose her humor or her cheery personality and joke/tease her companions (those are the traits i really like on her), just.... be more sympathetic and thoughtful. Everyone grows up in life at some point, living with some ppl with different views can help her see the life in different point of view. I mean i can understand her hatred with dalish elves and their culture but she could be more.... careful in what she says. Like, speaking with honesty but in a more careful manner, you know?

 

Also her being the only companion that can be thrown out of the inquisition anytime we desire, her having some limited content i think, compared to other romanceable characters is quite a let down and it's sad. :/ (i may be very wrong with the latter though)

 

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Sera has a cookie scene, argument invalid

 

I've seen her romance content, I'd say she has the same amount of content but there less "impactful" than say Dorian. But I think she does grow a little but stops

[introverted_assassin]

Skyrim? I can go to Skyrim? That sounds fun. Let me slay the dragonborn!

I can't multi-quote on mobile but it is utterly ridiculous how hard I laughed at this.

[WildOrchid]

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Actually, you can make a kinder Leliana become Divine and she will manage to unite the chantry through her inspiring words. So Leliana for Divine can be a positive outcome, especially for all those who want Mage independence.

 

As for Sera's romance, it certainly seems a let down or should I say unimpactful compared to Dorian's romance arc. I can't explain why without spoiling Dorian's romance.

 

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Yep, as you see, even Leliana can get influenced by the inquisitor in a good or bad way. Sera does not, sadly. :/

 

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Sera has a cookie scene, argument invalid

 

I've seen her romance content, I'd say she has the same amount of content but there less "impactful" than say Dorian. But I think she does grow a little but stops

 

 

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I know, i liked the cookie scene. Though i would have liked to know her more.

[AresKeith]

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I know, i liked the cookie scene. Though i would have liked to know her more.

 

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Aren't you able to after that scene, because I remember seeing someone finally being able to ask about some her past in Denerim

[WildOrchid]

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Aren't you able to after that scene, because I remember seeing someone finally being able to ask about some her past in Denerim

 

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Yep, you get to know some. Still, didn't feel like she had a "rich" story. Or maybe that's her whole story.

 

Something i read on the Sera wiki:

 

"Sera can tell the Inquisitor that she has played a small painted box as a child, which was given by the Hero of Fereldan during the 5th Blight."

 

Just wow. Why i don't remember her mentioning a box.

[Artemis Leonhart]

Uh... Ok?

 

 

Thanks, Shem. I'm afraid I'm neither one of you, nor a flat-ear.

 

(That's a joke. I prefer Elves, but City and Dalish equally, and I've no problem with Humans.)

 

 

Nice! Strangely, I can't see you on my friends list. Do share a name!

 

On an MP-related note, I'm now completely sure I found Neria, the Keeper in Skyhold's garden.

Don't think I'm finding the Katari, but maybe the Templar...? Or the Elementalist, I guess. I've no idea.

My Origins name is pretty much the same of my forum name: ArtemisLeonhart. Feel free to add me.

[jlb524]

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Yep, you get to know some. Still, didn't feel like she had a "rich" story. Or maybe that's her whole story.

 

Something i read on the Sera wiki:

 

"Sera can tell the Inquisitor that she has played a small painted box as a child, which was given by the Hero of Fereldan during the 5th Blight."

 

Just wow. Why i don't remember her mentioning a box.

 

It comes up if you take her to the Fade quest and talk to her afterward.

[Cathey]

I think Sera has taken over my mind a bit

 

I was on my way home from a gig tonight and as I was walking through town, the bizzies were out, quite a few just parked around the christmas market (everything was closed this time of night) and my first thought was that Sera had been running around causing trouble

 

Heheh.

[Moondoggie]

If she was i doubt they'd catch her. She's quick

[YourFunnyUncle]

What do you mean Tressa Lavellan and Tera Hawke look like sisters?

 

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I might possibly share Bull's liking for redheads. It's a bit weird that he keeps going on to Tressa about it though... Also, why is my rogue Hawke wearing Warrior armour? My keep import seems to have worked as far as other things I've seen are concerned. Is this a known bug?

 

Oh and Sera related... When I flirted with Scout Harding:

 

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I got "Sera Approves". Wasn't expecting that, but it makes sense I guess, in a way...

[Xilizhra]

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To be fair, Sera is not the type of personality to have a lot of depth. Shes not hiding secrets, shes not holding baggage from previous events in her life. Shes out to screw nobles and have fun, if she can save the world while doing so then BONUS. It does feel like a rather childish or flippant view of life though. I can certainly see why some people are turned off by what they see as a childish brat. But I think thats a bit too hard on Sera, after all, she stays the course with Inquisition after all.

 

That said, for the first Lesbian companion, I can see how Sera can seem like a let down compared to Dorian as the first gay companion and what happens in it.

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She's holding a horrible amount of baggage, we just can't discern what it is. Her vicious neuroses couldn't come from absolutely nowhere.

[AlexiaRevan]

 

To All Seranite that Roam this Hive of Bewbz !!! 

 

You are all here Hereby , asked to try your Hand at Making Stella (Aka Artemis) Beloved Avatar and Take a Screen of it . 

 

Please give it a Try , for our dear dear Stella...want one like her avatar...but the Damn CC is being a Jerk !

 

So you are all Invited to do so (wich should give ya a break and give me a chance to catch up...getting the game on the 1st  ) 

 

*Ahem* 

 

So that is that . Give it your ALL !

 

And Thank !

 

And Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ! I missed ya all ! 

 

and Kasumiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 

 

 

Edit: Btw...she want an ELF that sport that Smexy Avatar Face !! So consider this a challenge 

 

Edit 2 : Ok...I'm putting some bigger Pic so you can see her in her full Glory ! Maybe it will help ! (Oh and Do try with a Human too , maybe it will be possible ) . 

 

Her name is Benthe de Vries

 

 

 

 

 

[SardaukarElite]

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While good points, i'd like some character growth, just like everyone else has gotten in some point. Hell, even Vivienne changed her views when she became divine, i'd expect her to be worse than even Leliana, yet she managed to do good.

 

I don't want Sera to lose her humor or her cheery personality and joke/tease her companions (those are the traits i really like on her), just.... be more sympathetic and thoughtful. Everyone grows up in life at some point, living with some ppl with different views can help her see the life in different point of view. I mean i can understand her hatred with dalish elves and their culture but she could be more.... careful in what she says. Like, speaking with honesty but in a more careful manner, you know?

 

Also her being the only companion that can be thrown out of the inquisition anytime we desire, her having some limited content i think, compared to other romanceable characters is quite a let down and it's sad. :/ (i may be very wrong with the latter though)

 

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I think the main shame is that she was well positioned to have character growth. In her first Skyhold conversation she talks about looking to find out about, well I think it was mostly faith but it's something you can run with. Sera seems to want to be more, just runs away from it at every given opportunity.

 

 

Edit: Btw...she want an ELF that sport that Smexy Avatar Face !! So consider this a challenge 

 

That might be the problem.

[AlexiaRevan]

Yeah I know...but if someone can pull it off it be great though . 

[FaerieSophie]

Opps, I was just playing Skyrim yesterday to test out a mod..................................

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT!

 

That is the one major issue I have with DA: I, the complete lack of mod support. I still play skyrim because of the ton of mods that are still coming out for it even today.

 

Yeah. Mods are what make Skyrim and the Elder Scrolls series timeless (*still waiting for the Skywind mod*)

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

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She's holding a horrible amount of baggage, we just can't discern what it is. Her vicious neuroses couldn't come from absolutely nowhere.

 

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Clearly, shes from some part of England. That enough to cause Neuroses, no? just joking.

[Fiery Phoenix]

exploring party banter combos is pretty fun. Sera and Varric sound great lol. Sera's laugh is really infectious.

Dorian and Sera is hilarious too "Stop...Saying...Tool"

omg

 

Her laugh is so adorable I can't even even.