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#36826
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Why would Sera care? She doesn't like city elves either.


She is an elf, and although she doesn't have an alternative model of elfiness, she doesn't like other people telling her what she as a elf 'should' be.

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The trouble is that Sera's beliefs are fetid sewage. I might go so far as to say that her inclusion here is an insult to lesbians.

 

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The trouble is that Sera's beliefs are fetid sewage. I might go so far as to say that her inclusion here is an insult to lesbians.

 

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#36830
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I must give credit to Sera for something. Before DAI, I had never hated any companion in any Bioware game before--indeed, I sort of doubted that I ever would. Sera and Vivienne both broke that boundary--not that I'm inclined to give any compliments whatsoever to Sera's author for this, as it doesn't seem that she was written to be deliberately horrible like Vivienne.



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I must give credit to Sera for something. Before DAI, I had never hated any companion in any Bioware game before--indeed, I sort of doubted that I ever would. Sera and Vivienne both broke that boundary--not that I'm inclined to give any compliments whatsoever to Sera's author for this, as it doesn't seem that she was written to be deliberately horrible like Vivienne.

 

Got to disagree with you personally, As much as their isn't much of a personal story arc with her behaviour indiviually, When it comes to Romance she is very showing of her emotions and what not, Becomes slightly less.... I don't know...  Let's say bumbling? Not entirely but when it comes to her and the inquisitor she really takes it serious. Although i feel without the Romance it does indeed detract from her character. In that respect i want a DLC for her to come full 180. Maybe some of the people here would agree with me.



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The trouble is that Sera's beliefs are fetid sewage. I might go so far as to say that her inclusion here is an insult to lesbians.

 

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I dont see her anti elf stance at all an insult to lesbians. She doesn't like elves, okay. But I cant see it as a hatred of lesbians. I hardly see anyone else equate the sexuality of a character with their views. I get not liking her, my fiance thinks she is annoying, and that is fine with me. But it isn't hating lesbians as a whole? I feel like you conflating that as a lesbian a lesbian character is meant for you is being conflated with your exact preferences.

 

I mean I really really disliked Traynor from ME3 and I felt like the lack of romance content was a problem, but didn't think of her as an insult to all lesbians. I disliked Solas, but if a lesbian character had his same personality I would not consider it an affront to us as a whole. It can't be. I mean, many lesbians enjoyed her, I certainly did. And they never linked her other stuff to her sexuality. Which is great. I mean personal preferences should not be conflated as a personal affront.



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I dont see her anti elf stance at all an insult to lesbians. She doesn't like elves, okay. But I cant see it as a hatred of lesbians. I hardly see anyone else equate the sexuality of a character with their views. I get not liking her, my fiance thinks she is annoying, and that is fine with me. But it isn't hating lesbians as a whole? I feel like you conflating that as a lesbian a lesbian character is meant for you is being conflated with your exact preferences.

 

I mean I really really disliked Traynor from ME3 and I felt like the lack of romance content was a problem, but didn't think of her as an insult to all lesbians. I disliked Solas, but if a lesbian character had his same personality I would not consider it an affront to us as a whole. It can't be. I mean, many lesbians enjoyed her, I certainly did. And they never linked her other stuff to her sexuality. Which is great. I mean personal preferences should not be conflated as a personal affront.

Misoretu may have more to say on this subject.

 

Personally, I feel sabotaged and somewhat betrayed. And the worst part is that I still want to romance her for some unholy reason. I think this must be what it feels like to be a rivalmanced companion in DA2, and that just reinforces my opinion that the concept was horrible.



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Misoretu may have more to say on this subject.

 

Personally, I feel sabotaged and somewhat betrayed. And the worst part is that I still want to romance her for some unholy reason. I think this must be what it feels like to be a rivalmanced companion in DA2, and that just reinforces my opinion that the concept was horrible.

 

Hate-f*****g can be pretty satisfying. 



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Hate-f*****g can be pretty satisfying. 

 

I'm sure a Fenris dating a mage Hawke or an Anders dating a Viscount Hawke would agree.

 

All that angst must make them hot and bothered really quickly.



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Hate-f*****g can be pretty satisfying. 

It doesn't seem like something to build a relationship on. Though there's some temptation to the idea of just building up to the crashing denoument... and then rebounding to Josephine, perhaps.



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It doesn't seem like something to build a relationship on. Though there's some temptation to the idea of just building up to the crashing denoument... and then rebounding to Josephine, perhaps.

 

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#36838
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No. That's not what I am, in the end.



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It doesn't seem like something to build a relationship on. Though there's some temptation to the idea of just building up to the crashing denoument... and then rebounding to Josephine, perhaps.


Why even bother in the first place?

Your Inquisitor has to know it won't end well.

#36840
Xilizhra

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Why even bother in the first place?

Your Inquisitor has to know it won't end well.

Well, I wouldn't know about the whole Arbor Wilds business first.



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No. That's not what I am, in the end.

 

I was trying to make a funny..........I has failed. I'll show myself out.



#36842
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I was trying to make a funny..........I has failed. I'll show myself out.

It actually was funny, in any objective sense. My mood right now is just on the much more snarly side.



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I was trying to make a funny..........I has failed. I'll show myself out.

 

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Well, I wouldn't know about the whole Arbor Wilds business first.


I think there would be plenty of other signs though.

#36845
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I think there would be plenty of other signs though.

More than what existed for your elf who romanced her?



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More than what existed for your elf who romanced her?


Her general dislike of elfy stuff I mean.

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Welp, I had her romance started before What Pride Had Wrought and now afterward I appear to have lost it. Can't get her romance quest to pop up, and the option to tell her I like her has disappeared. I've done all her Red Jenny quests, exhausted her dialogue, and taken her along while I flirted with Harding everywhere to get all the approval I can, but I think I'm screwed. I've got Forbidden Oasis and Hissing Wastes left to clear, and a couple fetchy Inner Circle quests, but I'm not expecting to get any more approval from her.

 

What a drag. I thought this would be like DA2 where romances weren't dependent on approval rating, so I pretty much played naturally (not just doing what I thought would please her) and got slightly more approval from her than disapproval over the course of the game, but I guess not enough.

 

Goddammit. I had to wait 70 hours to find this out? Good thing I like the rest of the game so much.



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Abridged Amon is awesome! He just wanted to make the world laugh. 



#36849
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Abridged Amon is awesome! He just wanted to make the world laugh. 

 


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#36850
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I have a confession to make, I like Sera more because of her views of the Dalish.........I really don't like them. I prefer city elves.


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