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#36876
AresKeith

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While I havent played the game...

 

I dont see why being a Lesbian has to be adressed in a game ? 

 

I mean...do peoples make a big deal of Cass being into mens ? or BlackWall....being into...hum..he is hetero right ? 

 

Or do you mean..like hearing a Past of some sort ? like...if she dated befor and such ? 

 

I agree, I don't really see why it should be addressed either when it's not really considered that big of a deal in Thedas as far as we know

 

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#36877
Ailith Tycane

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While I havent played the game...

 

I dont see why being a Lesbian has to be adressed in a game ? 

 

I mean...do peoples make a big deal of Cass being into mens ? or BlackWall....being into...hum..he is hetero right ? 

 

Or do you mean..like hearing a Past of some sort ? like...if she dated befor and such ? 

 

I make a big deal about Cass being into mens, hahaha.



#36878
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*Wave* Kasumiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!! I missed Ya!!!!!!!!!!! I want to hug ya..but you may just cloack at that moment and I shall fall on my face :lol: and It be worth it !

So ya gonna Try making her Avatar ? Awesome ! Thank You !! ^_^

I'm getting the game the 1st !!! Finally..I be able to Play.............. :D


cool!

yeah I'm gonna try for it. will remember to take pics but I am mobile so don't know how i'll upload them here.

#36879
Xilizhra

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you know what...I never usually reply to you. ever. what I am seeing though is that you DO like her. that's messing with you more than the reasons you list for not liking her. She has that effect. you've never experienced this in real life? Genuine question here. Liking someone who is the opposite of everything you thought you liked? it is a weird place, that I can agree on. But the prize...

Damn it all.

 

No, I've never experienced this in real life. The mental walls I put up between people who disagree with me on fundamental topics and people who are actually close to me are virtually unassailable. Sera's somehow cracked this, but I know from what other people have said that she never really gains any character development on the issue and would wind up breaking up with me anyway.



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AlexiaRevan

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I make a big deal about Cass being into mens, hahaha.

Well Duh......especially those who complained ! PITCHFORK ALL AROUND!  :lol: 

 

But..Honestly , though . I certainly wouldnt like someone making a big deal of my Lesbianism in a game . Its poke at ya...as if...YOU Sure you should be like that yada yada ? even on a curious note....it come as in ya shouldnt be . And I have enough of that in real life....I certainly dont wanna see it in a game . 

 

Nobody notice X is Hetero............and being gay should be the same . 

 

If someone has a blinking problem when you smooche sera..well they can look elsewhere....  :lol:



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Ailith Tycane

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Coming from a queer woman, it matters. It matters a lot, and I just wish they had included it. 



#36882
Fiery Phoenix

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****.

 

Lukas, I really wish you hadn't created this.

I beg to differ :P



#36883
AlexiaRevan

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I beg to differ :P

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I missed Ya too!!!  :lol:



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AlexiaRevan

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Coming from a queer woman, it matters. It matters a lot, and I just wish they had included it. 

Why ? 



#36885
Ailith Tycane

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Why ? 

 

Because gay men got some awesome representation in the form of Dorian and we didn't. I understand that Thedas doesn't care much about sexual orientation, or at least not as much as the real world does, but real people in the real world are playing these games. It wouldn't have taken much effort and it would have meant a lot to just have her outwardly say "I'm gay" or something, anything like it, the same way Dorian did. 


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#36886
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Damn it all.

No, I've never experienced this in real life. The mental walls I put up between people who disagree with me on fundamental topics and people who are actually close to me are virtually unassailable. Sera's somehow cracked this, but I know from what other people have said that she never really gains any character development on the issue and would wind up breaking up with me anyway.


well...it has been virtually assailed. technically and realistically. and you have said here and on other threads that you will have something go the way you planned at all costs on most things. this is also bothering you. I'm not trying to delve into your psyche too far here. but...you really are a fan. you just don't see it. a character was written that questions/dislikes all the things you hold dear in this virtual world...and you like her. Rest your understanding on this, if you can.

I would say resistance is futile in this case but you're a stubborn one lol

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AlexiaRevan

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Sera represent us....

 

I dont see how saying ' I'm a lesbian'....represent us more . She is gender gated..thats all we need . No ? 

 

Well....Maybe they didnt wanna copy/past it from Dorian to Sera.....

 

Making her say I'm a Lesbian....wouldnt change anything...peoples are bashing her already....... <_<



#36888
AresKeith

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Bioware just can't win :P


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#36889
Fiery Phoenix

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*Tackle* Phoennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnixxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx!

 

I missed Ya too!!!  :lol:

Hola! *pinches your cheek*



#36890
Ailith Tycane

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Would have been better if Cassandra represented us, then I would have given Bioware props, but I don't really give them props for Sera as far as representation. If you were someone who had no prior knowledge to the fact that she was gender gated, would you ever actually know she was a lesbian? If you were a male PC for all you know she could just not be romancable like Vivienne, and if you were a female PC, her dialogue could be completely interchangeable with a male PC with some changed pronouns. That's the problem. The meta knowledge that she's gay is supposed to be enough, but it's not.


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#36891
AlexiaRevan

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Hola! *pinches your cheek*

Ohh Ya changed your Avatar ! Awww.....who is that now ??? 



#36892
Fiery Phoenix

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Ohh Ya changed your Avatar ! Awww.....who is that now ??? 

Garrett the Master Thief!



#36893
AlexiaRevan

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Would have been better if Cassandra represented us, then I would have given Bioware props, but I don't really give them props for Sera as far as representation. 

Hum....

 

If they gave us Cass + Josie+ Sera+ Vivi...Thats the only Numbers I be happy with  :lol:

 

Personally..I just wanna smooche Cass..I dont care about being represented.......



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AlexiaRevan

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Garrett the Master Thief!

Who ?  :huh: 



#36895
draken-heart

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In regards to the current choice of discussion: Who cares? I would have at least acknowledged it more openly. Like having an ex-girlfriend during her quest, and you have to help her deal with it or something.



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Ailith Tycane

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In regards to the current choice of discussion: Who cares? I would have at least acknowledged it more openly. Like having an ex-girlfriend during her quest, and you have to help her deal with it or something.

 

Clearly I do. There's no need to be dismissive. 



#36897
Fiery Phoenix

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Who ?  :huh:

dis game:

 

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#36898
SardaukarElite

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In regards to the current choice of discussion: Who cares?

 

The people discussing it. Obviously.


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#36899
AlexiaRevan

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dis game:

 

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Wait...is that the Thief Theif game ?? the one..where ya have to sneak and use arrow of Water to shut down candles and such ? 

 

Omg..I havent played that game since..I walked over a corpse and found a Zombie..buahahaha..I dropped the game with a screech  :lol:



#36900
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Clearly I do. There's no need to be dismissive.


The problem is that there are people who seem to think that it is enough to be out there, and her say it. It would be simply better to establish it in a proper way, unlike Dorian whose family issues seem to be revolving around his homosexuality.