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#37426
AresKeith

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thats what i like about her she has believable views and its been said she cares about the now rather than x issue. Dont get the hate i find her a breath of fresh air

 

I agree, I find Sera to be a nice change 


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#37427
raging_monkey

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I think not, the writers are allowed to write characters they way they want them whether they're a romance or not

agreed i think we need more characters that are "like" sera people who have varied views but understable instead of falling into lawful or chaotic alignments

#37428
AresKeith

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Indeed. As we are allowed to respond the way we like.

 

Ok, but saying she stolen the lesbian slot because YOU don't agree with her views makes it no better


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Well, Sera is racist, religiously bigoted and probably transphobic, and I can tell this from in-game dialogue. I find it a bit hard to call her abusive, though, due to her being utterly unintimidating.

 

I am, however, pleased by the reaction all in all. Hopefully it discourages Bioware from repeating this.

 

I don't see her as racist, personally.  No matter how rude she is about not caring about being an elf, she doesn't actually hate elves...she'll romance one, she cares about the elves in the Orlesian ball, she's not a monster.  This is one of those things that keeps getting passed around as fact, but I don't see it.  Making farting noises at Solas isn't racism.  The religion thing...she's scared.  She is Andrastian, and honestly, I don't think someone who believes otherwise should get involved with her romantically.  She doesn't want to debate her beliefs, even with a friend, and why is she the bigot for having that point of view?

 

The transphobia thing, yeah, but there are SO many unfortunate remarks throughout these three games, that are either misogynistic or transphobic, but Sera is currently being held to a higher standard than any other character.  Nobody taught her to be tactful, or kind, based on what we know of her adoptive mother.  She doesn't even know that she should be trying to be a better person.  And it feels, quite frankly, like she'd be damned no matter what, by this fandom.


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Ok, but saying she stolen the lesbian slot because YOU don't agree with her views makes it no better

and comes across as judgmental. The fact that sera has these views makes her a stronger character imo

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Why is she calling my qunari 'Teetness. :P

I am seriously wondering where she gets these nicknames from



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Inky -> Teetness -> Buckles

 

Those were the order og nicknmes she gave my Quizzy.

She has a banter with Cole where she changes it again and I've seen a youtube video where she used a fourth one I haven't seen mentioned in other places.



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Inky -> Teetness -> Buckles
 
Those were the order og nicknmes she gave my Quizzy.
She has a banter with Cole where she changes it again and I've seen a youtube video where she used a fourth one I haven't seen mentioned in other places.


Inky, Tadwinks, Teetness, Buckles, and Shiny.

Tadwinks is definitely my least favorite. Naturally, it's the one I get all the time.

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Sera's racist...really, Xil? you gotta chill on this. and sometimes I know you don't have ANY chill but this one...well naw.
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Ok, but saying she stolen the lesbian slot because YOU don't agree with her views makes it no better

I and many others.

 

 

I don't see her as racist, personally.  No matter how rude she is about not caring about being an elf, she doesn't actually hate elves...she'll romance one, she cares about the elves in the Orlesian ball, she's not a monster.  This is one of those things that keeps getting passed around as fact, but I don't see it.  Making farting noises at Solas isn't racism.  The religion thing...she's scared.  She is Andrastian, and honestly, I don't think someone who believes otherwise should get involved with her romantically.  She doesn't want to debate her beliefs, even with a friend, and why is she the bigot for having that point of view?

 

The transphobia thing, yeah, but there are SO many unfortunate remarks throughout these three games, that are either misogynistic or transphobic, but Sera is currently being held to a higher standard than any other character.  Nobody taught her to be tactful, or kind, based on what we know of her adoptive mother.  She doesn't even know that she should be trying to be a better person.  And it feels, quite frankly, like she'd be damned no matter what, by this fandom.

You don't have to hate a race to be racist against it, far from it. As for religion... not only are Solas and Iron Bull the only non-Andrastians in the party who can be romanced, but yes, I believe that anyone unable to debate their religious beliefs is, at best, an intellectual and spiritual weakling. And when Sera extends this into calling the Dalish Inquisitor stupid for following their own religion, it enters bigotry, yes.

 

Which romanceable characters are noticeably misogynistic or transphobic who are being supposedly passed over? And if Sera doesn't know that she should be a better person, why can we not show her, as with Isabela.

 

 

Sera's racist...really, Xil? you gotta chill on this. and sometimes I know you don't have ANY chill but this one...well naw.

I have plenty of chill. The fact that all my mages thus far have specialized in Inferno is pure coincidence.


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#37436
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Inky, Tadwinks, Teetness, Buckles, and Shiny.

Tadwinks is definitely my least favorite. Naturally, it's the one I get all the time.

I got Shiny. I have to say I preferred Inky. There was just something ridiculously adorable about Sera addressing my towering Qunari with "inky~!" in that cutesy voice.



#37437
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I got Shiny. I have to say I preferred Inky. There was just something ridiculously adorable about Sera addressing my towering Qunari with "inky~!" in that cutesy voice.

Honey tongue was my final name lol must have graduated



#37438
introverted_assassin

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*soft chuckle* you amuse me, Xil.

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Sera's racist...really, Xil? you gotta chill on this. and sometimes I know you don't have ANY chill but this one...well naw.

Sera is more difficult to romance with an elf, puts down elves on a few occasions, is surprised with herself for being in a romance with an elf if you romance her, and refers to elves as bags of turkey necks.  Yeah, I am pretty sure she is racist against her own race, it may not be hateful racism, but its definately racism.



#37440
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man listen...I'm not having this discussion with anyone. you're not about to define racism for me. you're just not gonna do that. be mindful of who you type to when you put these responses on here. if there is anyone in this thread that knows what it looks like, it's me. please rest your understanding on that.

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racism definition: the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

 

I dont need to define racism, it already has a definition, that people like to create different definitions for it to suit their own purposes doesn't change the fact that is is already defined.



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I got Shiny. I have to say I preferred Inky. There was just something ridiculously adorable about Sera addressing my towering Qunari with "inky~!" in that cutesy voice.

So far I got:

"Tadwinks" for "I'm glad you feel the same way" (or something like that, left answer first), "You want to jump to bed right now?!", "I don't want just sex", "Is there a problem with me being the inquisitor", "Don't call me Inky".

"Buckles", same as above but "What's the human thing" (right answer) chosen first.

" 'Teetness", same as "Tadwinks" but without "You want to jump to bed right now?!".

"Shiny", same as "Buckles" but without "You want to jump to bed right now?!".



#37443
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man listen...I'm not having this discussion with anyone. you're not about to define racism for me. you're just not gonna do that. be mindful of who you type to when you put these responses on here. if there is anyone in this thread that knows what it looks like, it's me. please rest your understanding on that.

 

Also me. I beat up a 7 year old for being racist to my brother. I was 12 at the time. The police sided with me.  :D


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#37444
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Inky -> Teetness -> Buckles

 

Those were the order og nicknmes she gave my Quizzy.

She has a banter with Cole where she changes it again and I've seen a youtube video where she used a fourth one I haven't seen mentioned in other places.

 

I wonder if BioWare has a chart or something for how and when Sera starts using another nickname.



#37445
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racism definition: the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

I dont need to define racism, it already has a definition, that people like to create different definitions for it to suit their own purposes doesn't change the fact that is is already defined.


get the entire hell out of here and do not type to me again or I will report you. it's that simple. if a person tells you they do not want to have a discussion, leave it be. y'all take things too far on here and I'm not here for it.
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#37446
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Can someone tell me what happens if you don't

 

Spoiler



#37447
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Can someone tell me what happens if you don't

 

Spoiler

you get sex but it fades to black. you basically just make out and then roll into darkness. I actually haven't tried going with her advice because that is the king of gross.



#37448
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failing at creating the elf for Artemis. none of the ways I tried look right. I shall not be defeated! *maniacal laughter*

#37449
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you get sex but it fades to black. you basically just make out and then roll into darkness. I actually haven't tried going with her advice because that is the king of gross.

 

You mean just the first half of the scene, when they're clothed? Or a version of the second half without the dialogue?

 

It's weird they tied part of her scene to an interaction with a character people might not even have, because they didn't recruit her or she left.



#37450
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You mean just the first half of the scene, when they're clothed? Or a version of the second half without the dialogue?

 

It's weird they tied part of her scene to an interaction with a character people might not even have, because they didn't recruit her or she left.

Yeah just the first half I guess they where trying to see if you wanted to see the sex scene or not.

 

With out full out asking "yo do you want to see boobs or not?". I'm actually glad they kind of gave you the option. Because my grandpa walked in my room just as it faded out.

 

Dodged a bullet there thank you bioware you saved my life lol.