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I hope you don't turn into dragon crap, it takes forever to get the smell out.

Turn into as in become? Or do you mean walk into? In any case, it won't matter. I'll have plenty of time to get rid of the smell because the shards are my next goal. Oh bother.



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I just got the 'People Person' achievement for befriending 3 of my companions. My friends are Sera, Dorian and Cassandra (in that order). It could be because I'm always walking around with them. :D It's neat that we get a cutscene where they acknowledge us as their friends.

 

I got card changes for Sera, Dorian and Iron Bull. I need to work on some of the others too. Oh, and I'm going after those last two dragons tonight.

I haven't looked at my achievements but when I was doing Sera's present quest, Cass greeted me as a friend. It gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling. :)



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I haven't looked at my achievements but when I was doing Sera's present quest, Cass greeted me as a friend. It gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling. :)

Well, you get the achievement for befriending three of them in a single playthrough. Solas hates my guts. Probably because I hardly ever speak to him. Dorian is a sweetheart too. Sera is best approached as a non elf. I haven't tried a two warrior party so far. Maybe I could switch Sera out for Iron Bull. I have barely used him.



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Poor Cole though. I kinda wish Sera would give him some chance.... then again, it's hard to overcome your fears. :unsure:  Bummer, I would've liked for them to have a sibling bond.

 

I didn't think I was going to like Cole, but he won me over, so I feel for him...but there's a strong possibility that Sera spent at least some time in Ferelden Horror Story:  MURDER ORPHANAGE, when she was in the Denerim Alienage, so if that's where her fear of demons comes from, can you blame her?

 

The Denerim alienage orphanage is one of the saddest and most chilling things to me from the first game.



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I didn't think I was going to like Cole, but he won me over, so I feel for him...but there's a strong possibility that Sera spent at least some time in Ferelden Horror Story:  MURDER ORPHANAGE, when she was in the Denerim Alienage, so if that's where her fear of demons comes from, can you blame her?

 

The Denerim alienage orphanage is one of the saddest and most chilling things to me from the first game.

I seriously doubt it. Cole would have mentioned it had something that major happened in her past.

 

In fact, the fact that Cole is talking about things like Sera's bow and the way her name sounds makes me reasonably confident that Sera has no secret hidden pain at all.



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Well, you get the achievement for befriending three of them in a single playthrough. Solas hates my guts. Probably because I hardly ever speak to him. Dorian is a sweetheart too. Sera is best approached as a non elf. I haven't tried a two warrior party so far. Maybe I could switch Sera out for Iron Bull. I have barely used him.

I hope that Sera is friends with me, as I'm in a romance with her! :D Solas I think is probably friends with me, as all you have to do is ask him about his adventures to farm "Slightly Approves" and he's given me the talk about he may have misjudged the Dalish and I am wise. Also I did his personal quest and got a "Greatly Approves" even though I did counter that with a "Disapproves" for stopping him from acting like an arse immediately afterwards, and another for being in a relationship with Sera. I shall check this evening when I get home to see if I have it. The Origin website won't tell me (another way in which it's inferior to Steam.)



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What does he say to someone in a relationship with Sera?



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I seriously doubt it. Cole would have mentioned it had something that major happened in her past.

 

In fact, the fact that Cole is talking about things like Sera's bow and the way her name sounds makes me reasonably confident that Sera has no secret hidden pain at all.

 

Really?  So being an orphan from the Denerim alienage, either during or before the Blight, before being scooped up by her adoptive mother, should have had no effect on her at all, because Cole doesn't say anything?

 

So when she refuses to talk about her past in great detail, it's because it was all great?  When she talks about what it's like to be starving, that didn't bother her at all?

 

I know it's just a video game character, but it's not hard to have empathy even for a make believe person.



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I don't have the People Person cheevo yet, but according to the tracker I'm 2/3 done with it. My 'friends' so far are Dorian and, I suspect, Blackwall.

 

Romances don't seem to count into it.



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Really?  So being an orphan from the Denerim alienage, either during or before the Blight, before being scooped up by her adoptive mother, should have had no effect on her at all, because Cole doesn't say anything?

 

So when she refuses to talk about her past in great detail, it's because it was all great?  When she talks about what it's like to be starving, that didn't bother her at all?

 

I know it's just a video game character, but it's not hard to have empathy even for a make believe person.

Is this confirmed or a theory?



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Is this confirmed or a theory?

 

She's definitely from Denerim, so I think I may have assumed that she's from the alienage.  Where else can elves who have no families go, before they are adopted?



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I seriously doubt it. Cole would have mentioned it had something that major happened in her past.

 

In fact, the fact that Cole is talking about things like Sera's bow and the way her name sounds makes me reasonably confident that Sera has no secret hidden pain at all.

 

I thought you have to "call" Cole somewhat in order for him to hear? He does admit that doesn't invade people's minds if they don't want, or call him. Maybe Sera hides her pain very deep?



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Is this confirmed or a theory?

She just told me she was from Denerim and that she left because it got horrible because of the blight.

 

What does he say to someone in a relationship with Sera?

I can't recall his exact words, but he was upset that I would be in a relationship with someone so far from what he considers to be a true elf. You might not get the "disapproves" if you're not an elf yourself. I don't know.



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Allied.  

I just got the 'People Person' achievement for befriending 3 of my companions. My friends are Sera, Dorian and Cassandra (in that order). It could be because I'm always walking around with them. :D It's neat that we get a cutscene where they acknowledge us as their friends.
 
I got card changes for Sera, Dorian and Iron Bull. I need to work on some of the others too. Oh, and I'm going after those last two dragons tonight.

Does the tarot card change based on companions quest and Romance?
Also, are Dorian's and Cass' friend dialogues
Spoiler

Is there a way to track down the friends?

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Really?  So being an orphan from the Denerim alienage, either during or before the Blight, before being scooped up by her adoptive mother, should have had no effect on her at all, because Cole doesn't say anything?

 

So when she refuses to talk about her past in great detail, it's because it was all great?  When she talks about what it's like to be starving, that didn't bother her at all?

 

I know it's just a video game character, but it's not hard to have empathy even for a make believe person.

Who can say? It's not as though she's terribly well-written...

 

Honestly, I've no clue.

 

 

I thought you have to "call" Cole somewhat in order for him to hear? He does admit that doesn't invade people's minds if they don't want, or call him. Maybe Sera hides her pain very deep?

Vivienne belies that.

 

 

I can't recall his exact words, but he was upset that I would be in a relationship with someone so far from what he considers to be a true elf. You might not get the "disapproves" if you're not an elf yourself. I don't know.

I wonder what he says if you're romancing Josephine... which I hadn't started yet at the time I did Solas' personal quest.



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Is this confirmed or a theory?

It was her who took the painted box from the Warden in Origins.

 

She's from Denerim, probably the alienage. It's clearly not something she's proud of, though.



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I wonder what he says if you're romancing Josephine... which I hadn't started yet at the time I did Solas' personal quest.

To be clear, this was during a romance quest for Sera, not his quest.

 

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I didn't think I was going to like Cole, but he won me over, so I feel for him...but there's a strong possibility that Sera spent at least some time in Ferelden Horror Story: MURDER ORPHANAGE, when she was in the Denerim Alienage, so if that's where her fear of demons comes from, can you blame her?

The Denerim alienage orphanage is one of the saddest and most chilling things to me from the first game.


I think she would have spent some time there but it didn't seem like she lived there long before getting adopted by Lady Emmald.

Interestingly, Sera does have some negative comments about the people in the Alienage (and the tree ofc xd). Not everyone in the Denerim Alienage is equal. I got the impression that the Tabris family was relatively well off as Alienage standards go...they have a decent home and the CE's father is apparently better off than most as he can find you a really nice groom/bride.

Then there are the elves that beg in the streets. I would imagine those living in the orphanage are at the bottom of that society and most likely turn to crime and/or meet a violent end. That's not even mentioning the demon stuff at the Denerim Alienage lol. With that in mind, it makes sense that Sera would have resentment towards the place.

Funny enough, my Surana Warden headcanon is that she was born in the Denerim Alienage before getting sent to the Circle. I doubt she knew Sera though.

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Allied.   Does the tarot card change based on companions quest and Romance?
Also, are Dorian's and Cass' friend dialogues

Spoiler

Is there a way to track down the friends?

I got a card change for Sera, Dorian and Iron Bull but none of the others. I thought Cassandra's card would change after her personal quest, but no. I'm a little disappointed. Is there a guide for the card changes yet?



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I got a card change for Sera, Dorian and Iron Bull but none of the others. I thought Cassandra's card would change after her personal quest, but no. I'm a little disappointed. Is there a guide for the card changes yet?

Not that I know of.
Could You tell me if the friend cutscenes for Dorian and Cassandra are those I mentioned?

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 Sera does have some negative comments about the people in the Alienage (and the tree ofc xd).

I thought that the comment about Apples was quite a reasonable one. Practicality first! :D


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I hope that Sera is friends with me, as I'm in a romance with her! :D Solas I think is probably friends with me, as all you have to do is ask him about his adventures to farm "Slightly Approves" and he's given me the talk about he may have misjudged the Dalish and I am wise. Also I did his personal quest and got a "Greatly Approves" even though I did counter that with a "Disapproves" for stopping him from acting like an arse immediately afterwards, and another for being in a relationship with Sera. I shall check this evening when I get home to see if I have it. The Origin website won't tell me (another way in which it's inferior to Steam.)

 

So Tressa is friends with Solas, huh.

 

Funny. It came to blows between him and Arianne.



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I got a card change for Sera, Dorian and Iron Bull but none of the others. I thought Cassandra's card would change after her personal quest, but no. I'm a little disappointed. Is there a guide for the card changes yet?

 

Cassandra's card changes if you romance her.



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So Tressa is friends with Solas, huh.

 

Funny. It came to blows between him and Arianne.

Well, Tressa is very interested in learning about and understanding different perspectives, which is why she manages to get on with both Sera and Solas! :D

 

Edit: Also, I understand that there are some dramatic Elf-based moments coming up that I've not yet experienced, so I'm prepared for that all to change...



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At least that's one thing that worked in my game as I did get the achievement for 3 friends. Heck I even got the achievement for romancing Sera, I just didn't get the last scene. I went and did the ram quest that someone mentioned but no Sera approval. So I restarted my Kayna hopefully she will have better luck this time.