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This is probably the first DA game I have not played as a DW rogue first. The lack of defense is what worries me. I see Cole losing health like mad even though I flesh out his respective trees.

I had the same problem with him even though he has the best armor and weapons I could make (exploiting the dupe glitch to get dragon materials and all). Even with that and on casual mode he gets butchered pretty quickly. Dual rogues are squishy! Archers are the way to go this time around. That stun shot? Beastly. Especially if combined with Tempest's Flask of Fire. I think I will respec Cole as an Archer.

 

I ended up loving the Tempest spec a lot more than the Artificer one. Anybody tried Assassin?  I haven't really tested it yet.



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Hearing Alix and Jo Wyatt talk to each other is all kinds of confusing. Good confusing.

 

This is probably the first DA game I have not played as a DW rogue first. The lack of defense is what worries me.

 

I've been playing one and it is okay. You need to learn not to always stand still in the kill zone, but that's why auto-attack is on hold now I assume. The access to stealth is also a pretty effective defense. So there is defense, but it is all active rather than passive.


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#37828
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No! Had enough... turning this game off before I lose my s***!



#37829
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This is probably the first DA game I have not played as a DW rogue first. The lack of defense is what worries me. I see Cole losing health like mad even though I flesh out his respective trees.

I get the feeling that to get the best out of a DW rogue you need to keep them under close control. I've not actually taken Cole out yet as I've been rolling a two mage, one archer, one sword/board warrior party for the most part.



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I had the same problem with him even though he has the best armor and weapons I could make (exploiting the dupe glitch to get dragon materials and all). Even with that and on casual mode he gets butchered pretty quickly. Dual rogues are squishy! Archers are the way to go this time around. That stun shot? Beastly. Especially if combined with Tempest's Flask of Fire. I think I will respec Cole as an Archer.

I ended up loving the Tempest spec a lot more than the Artificer one. Anybody tried Assassin? I haven't really tested it yet.


I haven't played assassin much besides messing around with controlling Cole a bit... My Inquisitor rogue's preference is DW Tempest. It's really strong if you micro-manage your character.

I turn Cole into an archer...I like assassin more with it.

I'm tempted to make Sera DW this pt just b/c I like DW Tempest that much (I'm a mage this time ). I'll have to control her a lot though.

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i've only played as sword/board and a mage. my party depends on what I play as in most cases but sometimes i do things differently like 3 mage, one warrior. I'm trying the Inferno tree with Neriya but I love the heck out of the static cage and energy barrage in the...electrical (lol idk the proper name) tree. I did build Viv as "electric chill" and that spirit blade is just everything. I never worry about her in battle.

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Has anyone heard of the band Austrian Death Machine?



#37833
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I haven't played assassin much besides messing around with controlling Cole a bit... My Inquisitor rogue's preference is DW Tempest. It's really strong if you micro-manage your character.

I turn Cole into an archer...I like assassin more with it.

I'm tempted to make Sera DW this pt just b/c I like DW Tempest that much (I'm a mage this time ). I'll have to control her a lot though.

Speaking of archers...

 

http://kotaku.com/gu...-mod-1665803821

 

Apparently archers are really, really good this time. So much so that he didn't even bother bringing along any companions on his fights.

 

I still don't know what to go with for my Nightmare pt, but after watching that guy's videos, I'm leanings towards an archer with the build listed in the article.



#37834
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This is probably the first DA game I have not played as a DW rogue first. The lack of defense is what worries me. I see Cole losing health like mad even though I flesh out his respective trees.

I played an Assassin and it required a lot of direct control to keep myself out of danger and it was very hard to keep Cole functioning.  Don't know if you've seen it yet but there is a Fade-Touched metal (obsidian I think) that you can use in a masterwork slot that grants around 3 guard per hit that you can place on a dagger.  I used that on my main-hand dagger and it was silly how fast my rogue gained guard and I was able to just shrug off a lot of damage. 


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#37835
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Hearing Alix and Jo Wyatt talk to each other is all kinds of confusing. Good confusing.

It's even worse when they look like sisters. ;)

 

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#37836
Fiery Phoenix

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I played an Assassin and it required a lot of direct control to keep myself out of danger and it was very hard to keep Cole functioning.  Don't know if you've seen it yet but there is a Fade-Touched metal (obsidian I think) that you can use in a masterwork slot that grants around 3 guard per hit that you can place on a dagger.  I used that on my main-hand dagger and it was silly how fast my rogue gained guard and I was able to just shrug off a lot of damage. 

I can confirm the Fade-touched Obsidian makes you basically unkillable.

 

Combined with the fast-paced nature of DW rogues, it's game over for your enemies.


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#37837
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I had no problem playing as a DWer but respeced Cole as an archer because I don't like micromanaging and I wanted to bring him haha.

I'll do the obsidian trick next time!

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I had no problem playing as a DWer but respeced Cole as an archer because I don't like micromanaging and I wanted to bring him haha.

I'll do the obsidian trick next time!

Crestwood has a very abundant supply of Obsidian. However, if you want a guaranteed drop, go to the locked house in Redcliffe that can be opened using Leliana's lockpicking perk. There is a chest in there that will give you a Fade-touched Obsidian 100% of the time.

 

The only issue with this material is it comes in two versions, one of which gives you +3 guard on hit. So there's still some luck involved.



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Crestwood has a very abundant supply of Obsidian. However, if you want a guaranteed drop, go to the locked house in Redcliffe that can be opened using Leliana's lockpicking perk. There is a chest in there that will give you a Fade-touched Obsidian 100% of the time.

The only issue with this material is it comes in two versions, one of which gives you +3 guard on hit. So there's still some luck involved.


Which is the crafting material with a 10% chance of activating Hidden Blades on hit?

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Fiery Phoenix

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Which is the crafting material with a 10% chance of activating Hidden Blades on hit?

That would be the Fade-Touched Velveteen, which also comes in two different versions.



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So happy right now.  :D Just checking through some of my latest additions to a never ending pile of emails to find my Liara Lithograph has been shipped.

 

http://www.biowarest...lithograph.html

 

Spoiler

 

That's totally not on topic but oh well. Here's a way I can make it on topic...

 

BioWare! Please get someone to do a Sera Lithograph! I would totally buy it. I want the Cassandra one but I would definitely buy a Sera one.


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#37842
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She just told me she was from Denerim and that she left because it got horrible because of the blight.

 

I can't recall his exact words, but he was upset that I would be in a relationship with someone so far from what he considers to be a true elf. You might not get the "disapproves" if you're not an elf yourself. I don't know.

He disapproves with every race, or at least he does with a qunari Inquisitor: happened to me yesterday.

I like him a bit less now...you don't just outright insult someone's beloved right in their face. It's ok if you don't like them, but keep that to yourself, expecially if the person who asked you for advice is trying to do something sweet and nice for the one they love. :?



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I always find masterwork things and at very early levels. And runes but I don't think i've ever successfully used one on a weapon. Now armor is not a problem and the crafting for it. Fade touched everything literally just seems to fall everywhere after the prologue or early in act 1.

I will eventually create a DW rogue but NOW I'm curious about Archers. I haven't had the chance to see Sera go off in combat. But umm...am I the only one that hears those...noises she makes and...well...yeahhhhh. moving along. lost the point to this part. sorry guys. :unsure:

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I got more Solas disapproval with an elf vs. human. I think it was 'Slightly disapproves' for human vs 'Disapproves' with elf.

#37845
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He disapproves with every race, or at least he does with a qunari Inquisitor: happened to me yesterday.

I like him a bit less now...you don't just outright insult someone's beloved right in their face. It's ok if you don't like them, but keep that to yourself, expecially if the person who asked you for advice is trying to do something sweet and nice for the one they love. :?

 

Better to be honest about your feelings than keep them bottled up. I'd rather someone tell me that they think I'm making a mistake than have them keep it to themselves and the relationship ends badly. Words of warning are beneficial, not a hinderance.



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I can confirm the Fade-touched Obsidian makes you basically unkillable.

 

Combined with the fast-paced nature of DW rogues, it's game over for your enemies.

 

Can I stick it on armor, or do I need to stick that bugger on one (or preferably both) of my daggers?



#37847
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Can I stick it on armor, or do I need to stick that bugger on one (or preferably both) of my daggers?

You can use it on armor but that would trigger the defensive effect, which is naturally different.

 

You can use it on both daggers if you have two pieces of it.



#37848
LightningPoodle

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You can use it on armor but that would trigger the defensive effect, which is naturally different.

 

You can use it on both daggers if you have two pieces of it.

 

Probably would be better to have 1 on daggers and 1 on armour. Use something else on the other dagger.



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Kinda wish the game had code so i can copy and save the code of my character's face..... I accidentaly started default state with my human and then said fook it and now i regret it. -_- And i definitely can't make the same face, it was pure luck that i made her so stunning.....

 

 

Y NO FACE CODE.



#37850
LightningPoodle

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Kinda wish the game had code so i can copy and save the code of my character's face..... I accidentaly started default state with my human and then said fook it and now i regret it. -_- And i definitely can't make the same face, it was pure luck that i made her so stunning.....

 

 

Y NO FACE CODE.

 

I think it's something they are looking into. One day, ma'am, one day soon... hopefully.