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#37901
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Oh Sera... You make me chuckle...
 

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Oh Basement Cat, I have the "People Person" achievement, but for someone not the "Beloved and Precious" one, even though I've clearly committed to a relationship with Sera. *mumblegrumblebuggedgame*



From what I understand you don't get it until the
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#37902
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Oh Sera... You make me chuckle...

 

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Oh Basement Cat, I have the "People Person" achievement, but for someone not the "Beloved and Precious" one, even though I've clearly committed to a relationship with Sera. *mumblegrumblebuggedgame*

 

That makes me want to refer to bras as ****** things from now on. 



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From what I understand you don't get it until the

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Well then they need to change the description, because I clicked the response that was clearly labelled as committing me to a relationship with her, 

 

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That makes me want to refer to bras as ****** things from now on. 

 

Ha! I suppose it could also be a boob-tube... :D



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Well then they need to change the description, because I clicked the response that was clearly labelled as committing me to a relationship with her, 
 
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Ha! I suppose it could also be a boob-tube... :D


I guess it really means when Sera commits. :lol:

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Really?  So being an orphan from the Denerim alienage, either during or before the Blight, before being scooped up by her adoptive mother, should have had no effect on her at all, because Cole doesn't say anything?

 

So when she refuses to talk about her past in great detail, it's because it was all great?  When she talks about what it's like to be starving, that didn't bother her at all?

 

I know it's just a video game character, but it's not hard to have empathy even for a make believe person.

 

Rather to headcanon something to make a reason to have empathy for her.

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On different note, I've read about someone romancing Sera as a male due to that gender bug, and when asked if the writing makes the romance feel out of place because of wrong gender, he said that only one conversation seemed odd – Sera saying that they both like girls, which actually wouldn't be anything out of place if we simply assumed that Sera is bisexual.

 

So Sera's romance conversations are on pair with un-specific dialogues of bisexual LIs from previous installments, but those had to be un-specific to save time and money. What justifies that in this case? Especially considering that there was put much thought into making Dorian's sexuality matter and that was the whole argument for having LIs with different sexualities?

 

I also checked out how Josephine's romance looks like, and compared male and female version (there isn't really any difference) – and must say that her romance arc has been clearly made with a male character in mind, it doesn't make any sense when you romance her as a woman given what we were told how homosexuality is treated in Thedas. Female voice was just recorded over lines intended for a man, without any effort to make it fit at all. It feels just like switching genders due to a mod or bug, but unlike how it is in case of Sera, it really makes it feel out of place.


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#37906
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I completed Sera's quest.
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I completed Sera's quest.

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Rather to headcanon something to make a reason to have empathy for her.

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On different note, I've read about someone romancing Sera as a male due to that gender bug, and when asked if the writing makes the romance feel out of place because of wrong gender, he said that only one conversation seemed odd – Sera saying that they both like girls, which actually wouldn't be anything out of place if we simply assumed that Sera is bisexual.

 

So Sera's romance conversations are on pair with un-specific dialogues of bisexual LIs from previous installments, but those had to be un-specific to save time and money. What justifies that in this case? Especially considering that there was put much thought into making Dorian's sexuality matter and that was the whole argument for having LIs with different sexualities?

 

I also checked out how Josephine's romance looks like, and compared male and female version (there isn't really any difference) – and must say that her romance arc has been clearly made with a male character in mind, it doesn't make any sense when you romance her as a woman given what we were told how homosexuality is treated in Thedas. Female voice was just recorded over lines intended for a man, without any effort to make it fit at all. It feels just like switching genders due to a mod or bug, but unlike how it is in case of Sera, it really makes it feel out of place.

How should Josephine's romance have been treated, then, to make it make sense?



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Thanks for the info :).

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#37913
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what I am noticing while playing as elf is that Josie seems...very protective of her. That's...I wasn't expecting that. Haven't made a move on anyone yet. Chilling in the cut like a bandage.
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#37914
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Josie is very sweet to elven Inquisitor. Unless you're playing hardcore anti Dalish elf, she's probably the best romance option IMO . She and Blackwall are the only ones who seem to respect the Dalish, haha.

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Josie is very sweet to everyone ;)


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Josie is very sweet to everyone ;)


She was slightly taken aback by my Qunari at first. Still though, dat accent :wub:

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Josie being all naive and disbelieving of Cadash's background was :333333



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How is Sera transphobic? I've never heard her say anything transphobic?

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How is Sera transphobic? I've never heard her say anything transphobic?

shes foul mouthed but transphobic? Im curious about this aswell

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#37921
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At the Orlesian ball she made a comment about one of the guests that was something like "He's a she."

 

Personally I don't find it transphobic, but I am cis gendered, so there's that. I just think with how extravagant Orlais is it doesn't seem like cross dressing would be outside of the norm, doesn't necessarily mean the person is actually trans like Krem. 


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At the Orlesian ball she made a comment about one of the guests that was something like "He's a she."
 
Personally I don't find it transphobic, but I am cis gendered, so there's that. I just think with how extravagant Orlais is it doesn't seem like cross dressing would be outside of the norm, doesn't necessarily mean the person is actually trans like Krem.

thats the big bad phrase? As saemus said
"People try awfully hard to be offended"

If anything its more of a "ohhh" matter than a negative

#37923
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thats the big bad phrase? As saemus said
"People try awfully hard to be offended"

If anything its more of a "ohhh" matter than a negative

 

Well as I said, I am cis-gendered, but I also have very vivid memories of being a tomboy in elementary school and being called "he-she" which totally pissed me off, so I can understand the knee jerk anger some people may be feeling. That being said, transphobic was not the first place my mind went with that comment, I associated it with cross-dressing, which is not the same thing as being trans.


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Yeah, I definitely think that it's a bit silly to associate that with transphobia. It's not like she was insulting anyone. She's just a bit ignorant.

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At the Orlesian ball she made a comment about one of the guests that was something like "He's a she."

 

Personally I don't find it transphobic, but I am cis gendered, so there's that. I just think with how extravagant Orlais is it doesn't seem like cross dressing would be outside of the norm, doesn't necessarily mean the person is actually trans like Krem. 

Personally I felt it was more she was just pointing out different people, or random facts that she knew/had learned about the people around her...


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