Yeah poor Varric got a lil bitter... i miss the fun, loving dwarf he was... Understandable, stuff happened... :/
Kinda miss his rs with Isabela. And Hawke.
The way he treats Cole reminds me of Merrill.
Yeah, he's very protective of young people.
He's the cool uncle who has all the stories you want to listen to.
I just finished a play through where
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and it seemed to make him even more bitter. One of his banters with Cassandra afterwards is seriously sad face.
Aahahaha, not gonna do that. Nope. Nopenopenope
it wasn't a Portal reference but I am #TeamChell =)
It was just the "For Science" bit. I've heard Glados say that in Poker Night 2 and the whole thing, even though I've never played Portal, gave off that vibe I get from it.
I just finished a play through where
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and it seemed to make him even more bitter. One of his banters with Cassandra afterwards is seriously sad face.
Sorry if it sounded like I was talking down Misoretu earlier. I'm sure this is a complicated issue at large.
I didn't personally detect any malice or intended condescension from you, but I think we can come across that way when we try to talk to people about matters that are not really in our realm of experience, so we need to be especially careful.
In my playthrough, it seemed like Varric was just unable to get over having been taken prisoner by the Inquisition. Every time Cass tried to make conversation, he'd shoot her down with some snide comment based on their history. I wanted to tell him to just deal with it already. It was one of the reasons why I ended up going with Sera as my dps; she may be rude, but at least she's not bitter.
I don't get that vibe at all from from Varric and Cassandra. He jabs her about that incident but hey he shows up at the rift right? I get the vibe from them that they secretly respect each other and if you do the Cassandra romance thing you get a quest as part of that where you find out what Cassandra really thinks about him. Also
In my playthrough, it seemed like Varric was just unable to get over having been taken prisoner by the Inquisition. Every time Cass tried to make conversation, he'd shoot her down with some snide comment based on their history. I wanted to tell him to just deal with it already. It was one of the reasons why I ended up going with Sera as my dps; she may be rude, but at least she's not bitter.
Not to mention, Cassandra kind of represents exactly what tore him away from that in the first place. One of the most impactful lines from him this game, I felt, was in the Cass/Varric fight scene after Hawke shows up.
"You know what I think? If Hawke was at the Conclave, she would be dead too. You people have done enough to her."
I thought that was quite a powerful line as well.
That whole scene really put things in perspective for me.
I thought that was quite a powerful line as well.
That whole scene really put things in perspective for me.
That the Inquisitor is just a tool? I got that feeling.
That the Inquisitor is just a tool? I got that feeling.
That's one way of looking at it 
That's one way of looking at it
What did you get from that line?
I can kinda understand where he's coming from, though. He lived in Kirkwall his whole life, had a good circle of friends...and now he's been dragged away from that while Kirkwall is an unstable pile of rubble and dead.
Yeah, but, whatever. Everyone in Thedas has **** to deal with, Varric. That goes double for half the people in my party: the mage who's hunting his time-travelling, demon-summoning ex-mentor; the girl who was raised in the Alienage and has a Robin Hood complex as a result; the guy guilt-tripping himself because of spoilerific reasons; etc.
This playthrough, I'm gonna leave Hawke behind in the Fade just to see what happens to Varric. Maybe he'll make me feel sorry for him.
Cassandra's response to Varric is pretty logical in their fight. She tells him she wanted Hawke because she hoped he would be the Inquisitor (and this is said with your Inquisitor standing there) and that Varric's antics cost them precious time.
I am not going to spoiler it this time but Varric said something to her later when we were on a mission about "Yeah I should have told you sooner, I just protect my friends." So yeah I don't see it as they hate each other. I think they've got an understanding. They may not be best buds but they aren't really adversaries and like I said Cass's romance gives you a scene where you learn of how she feels about a particular talent of Varric's and it's one of the most endearing scenes I've seen in the game.
I am now going to bed. Goodnight.
Um the castle is too big, where is Sera...?
Um the castle is too big, where is Sera...?
Tavern, first floor. When you get up the stairs, just circle the entire thing, you'll find she has a small cozy room, overlooking where Cass is.
bar 2nd floor ina corner roomUm the castle is too big, where is Sera...?
"You know what I think? If Hawke was at the Conclave, she would be dead too. You people have done enough to her."
That line really got me...
Tavern, first floor. When you get up the stairs, just circle the entire thing, you'll find she has a small cozy room, overlooking where Cass is.
You talking about the rom with the big windows and With a similar thing looking like guitar? Because she ain't there, but i just started there. So where are she in the beginning?
PS4 patch is fine. This is just a PC thing.
Yeah I signed in today, it was grand.
Based on what other people have said elf/sera romance is a bad idea.
All depends, if you play your elf as not giving a fig about their culture/religion things will go smoothly, if you play an elf who is leaning towards Andrastian religion you'll be fine or if you play an atheist elf also fine. It can work, it just boils down to your characters beliefs or lack thereof. But as proven if you play one who is deeply proud of their heritage you will have a very rocky romance ahead of you. I experienced it, interesting at times, infuriating at others, it was definitely different.
Also on review of that break-up scene with a Dalish elf my initial anger towards Sera has waned alot, I feel sorry for her more than anything. Didn't like her calling herself stupid, she isn't and I would have loved to have had the opportunity to intervene there and discuss what she didn't get with her. My main issue is the lack of a middle ground with her in that scene, if both could hold on to their belief system, a truce an agree to disagree moment I would have been content.
"Our" being those who find Sera's implementation badly wanting. And you might be surprised; Crimson and Basement Cat both seem inclined.
I just wish we had an opportunity to help Sera grow a lil, she seems to be stagnant, I guess she joined the Inquisition to figure things out for herself but by the end she doesn't seem to evolve in a sense much.
That said, Sera's romance could clearly be turned into a bisexual one far more easily than Dorian's. Her sexuality is much less prevalent in her plot in general.
I was hoping for some insight into her experiences as a young gay elf in Thedas, anything. When you look at Dorian's personal quest and you look at Sera's well... pity just seems a wasted opportunity.
But this was a *perfect* opportunity to talk, even a little, about how city elves view homosexuality. Or, if she's with a dalish elf, we could have gotten more info from the Inquisitor on how her clan would feel about her being with Sera, since we didn't get much information from Merrill on the topic.
I don't think saying that Sera doesn't "label" herself is enough of an excuse to totally dance around the many ways she could have talked about how her sexuality affects her life, even if it's small ways.
When you're heterosexual, representation is so complete it becomes invisible. I mean, tv shows made for toddlers reinforce and value heterosexual romantic love. It may not seem like a big deal to have *one* lesbian character who isn't waving a pride flag, but that's the only one. And when I'm constantly told that the only "good" way to be a "good lesbian" is to not be a "stereotype", it kind of feels like showing any kind of hint of my sexuality is seen as gross and insulting, and "too much" for straight people. So when I see what is supposed to be representation in a game, and it appears to be held to that standard of "not TOO much lady gay, unless she's turning down a boy or talking about sexy ladies!", it gets old.
And yeah, there are characters who don't hate Sera, but I don't think any other companion gets as much negativity from asking about them.
Well said.
Also for many who aren't from our side of the fence you can't relate to this issue of representation, you can sympathize but you can't identify so saying it shouldn't be that big of a deal if she doesn't have much gay content to her story because it would be cliched or another tired stereotype well no, you need characters like this in media. To be out there, to be seen, we have so few as it is.
Also on review of that break-up scene with a Dalish elf my initial anger towards Sera has waned alot, I feel sorry for her more than anything. Didn't like her calling herself stupid, she isn't and I would have loved to have had the opportunity to intervene there and discuss what she didn't get with her. My main issue is the lack of a middle ground with her in that scene, if both could hold on to their belief system, a truce an agree to disagree moment I would have been content.
You big softie, you.... lets give Sera hugs and cookies. Without raisins.
Totes with you on that scene with the break up though. But they had to add it bc drama.
You big softie, you.... lets give Sera hugs and cookies. Without raisins.
Totes with you on that scene with the break up though. But they had to add it bc drama.
Currently my human mage run is going well, I'm pretty sure my next convo with Sera will lock in the romance. Huh she is very positive towards my noble, this is far too easy going, is it weird I sorta miss my working hard for it elf run? 
Also as it was mentioned here and I had to see it for myself I brought Sera along and flirted with Harding whenever I got the opportunity to do so. LMAO Sera approves.
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