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#41026
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That's not true. Sera sees the Dalish as treating City elves the way the worst sort of nobles treat their common subjects, and it's given her a lifetime of anger and resentment toward them just like the abuses nobles commit have done.

 

The Dalish don't commonly interact with the city elves, given how they are outlaws under Chantry law (although the fate of Clan Lavellan and the presence of a Dalish Inquisitor will likely change this). The Dalish live on their own, separate from the Andrastian kingdoms, and the clans can vary quite a bit, as we know from the early posts on Dragon Central, and more recently from Solas commenting on how varied the clans can be from one another. Sera also seems to have issue with elves in general, since she even dislikes certain elven options that have nothing to do with the Dalish (like the choice in the Orlesian civil war).


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Well, he does consider Sera his best friend. ;)


I ran with Sera, Blackwall, and Dorian for my first PT and I've yet to find a team that matches them in terms of feeling like a dysfunctional, hilarious, endearing family.

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I just noticed that Sera is kinda a Les Mis reference herself like Blackwall :D

 

I'm 100% sure Sheryl was thinking of it while doing Blackwall's personal quest lol

 

Makes me want to watch it again tbh, have the 25th anniversary version lying around, dat be 4hrs tho. That's alot of singing.



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Sera also seems to have issue with elves in general, since she even dislikes certain elven options that have nothing to do with the Dalish (like the choice in the Orlesian civil war).

 

Oddly enough if I'm not mistaken she likes Briala but she dislikes it if you pick her as an option. She is horrified to see the elven servants butchered, intensifying her hatred for the game and nobility. But she also disliked Bull's suggestion about that elven red head, didn't like her because she was too elfy. Sera pls, not all elves are the same, girl is complex for sure.


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No I think she hates Briala. She singles her out for blame OVER Gaspard and Celebe and calls her a ****** up, or something like that. If you defend Briala, you lose approval.

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No I think she hates Briala. She singles her out for blame OVER Gaspard and Celebe and calls her a ****** up, or something like that. If you defend Briala, you lose approval.

 

Oh, I thought she was kinda okay with Briala, hmm picked that up wrong then.



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In the ball Sera says they're all liars but Gaspard would be a cool guy to drink with, finds Celene pleasing on the eyes. I forgot what she said about Briala tho. :P

 

But i'm fairly sure it was something nice.



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Briala is a class traitor AND a race traitor. An elf who snuggled up with the human empress while her people were starving. It doesn't get worse.

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Also I love Briala, romance option bioware pls. :P


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I think Sera didn't like the fact that Briala had a part in the Civil War still going on 



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Briala is a class traitor AND a race traitor. An elf who snuggled up with the human empress while her people were starving. It doesn't get worse.

 

Oh boy, you just opened a can of worms. Just pray Xil doesn't see this post.

 

*backflips outta existence*


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Briala is a class traitor AND a race traitor. An elf who snuggled up with the human empress while her people were starving. It doesn't get worse.


Did you read the Masked Empire? Because I find it hard to believe anyone would think that from readig the book. The people in the game don't have a very good perspective on her background or her motivations.
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I'll be the angry elf fan for Briala. I love her so much. :P

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I know I mentioned this before (broken record) but did anyone else not like how they changed Briala's appearance? In the book she had a darker skin tone, nice contrast to Celene's fair as snow skin. Found it pretty odd, also Gaspard is not how I would have pictured him at all myself, in my head he would look more like Blackwall IDK.


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I'm loving the new patch. It's awesome how the mini map lights up the items when you use the search function. The days of staining my poor eyes looking for those stupid little loot bags the enemy drops is over! Huzzah!!

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I know I mentioned this before (broken record) but did anyone else not like how they changed Briala's appearance? In the book she had a darker skin tone, nice contrast to Celene's fair as snow skin. Found it pretty odd, also Gaspard is not how I would have pictured him at all myself, in my head he would look more like Blackwall IDK.

 

I saw videos of her and her skin was fair brown, not as dark as the book probably made it though I'm not sure



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I know I mentioned this before (broken record) but did anyone else not like how they changed Briala's appearance? In the book she had a darker skin tone, nice contrast to Celene's fair as snow skin. Found it pretty odd, also Gaspard is not how I would have pictured him at all myself, in my head he would look more like Blackwall IDK.

 

Yeah i imagined Gaspard with a maginficent mustache tbh. Even stronger than Dorian's 'stache game.

 

I'm loving the new patch. It's awesome how the mini map lights up the items when you use the search function. The days of staining my poor eyes looking for those stupid little loot bags the enemy drops is over! Huzzah!!

 

Fucked up my graphics tho. Everything looks low and shiny. I'm waiting for that hotfix.



#41043
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I know I mentioned this before (broken record) but did anyone else not like how they changed Briala's appearance? In the book she had a darker skin tone, nice contrast to Celene's fair as snow skin. Found it pretty odd, also Gaspard is not how I would have pictured him at all myself, in my head he would look more like Blackwall IDK.

 

I'm not certain why they did that. It was quite odd.



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Briala is a class traitor AND a race traitor. An elf who snuggled up with the human empress while her people were starving. It doesn't get worse.

 

I didn't re-unite Briala and Celene myself, felt so bad for Briala in the book. She is magnificent, hush up. :P


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She was like a light brown, but it was not how I pictured her, and I was disappointed.
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#41046
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She was like a light brown, but it was not how I pictured her, and I was disappointed.

 

Celene looked how I would have imagined her though. Did you re-unite them? It is a tragic romance and they obviously still love one another but man the foundation of that relationship is toxic.



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Nope. My first character was a disaster who stumbled through the ball, and never had the option. My second character was super conniving and became the puppet master of all three.

I may do it this PT...but it's such an unhealthy relationship and would need a lot of work...and I don't think the game has a very deep grasp on it, so I fear it would be unsatisfying?

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Nope. My first character was a disaster who stumbled through the ball, and never had the option. My second character was super conniving and became the puppet master of all three.

I may do it this PT...but it's such an unhealthy relationship and would need a lot of work...and I don't think the game has a very deep grasp on it, so I fear it would be unsatisfying?

 

I'm not sure if I should re-unite them in my 2nd run, curiosity might get the better of me though. Even though I don't know how one could forgive someone for doing what Celene did, so f*cked up.


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#41049
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Just checked a couple of the previous pages talking about wanting Sera's perspective as a homosexual city elf and I just have to say I really don't think she even is much of a city elf in the first place. I mean, she wasn't actually raised in an alienage after all, and the game implies that after her rich adopted mother died she lived on the streets and gutters for a long time. She's less of city elf and more of human commoner, which is why I think she's never had to deal with problems of homophobia that would have inevitability come if she was raised in alienage where planned hetero marriages are apparently common. That's why she doesn't have a lesbian equivalent to Dorian's daddy issues, she's just never had to deal such things because her low-born environment didn't give a crap about who she likes to have sex with. Remember, the codex on Sexuality in Thedas only mentions nobles having a big with homosexuality. 

 

Also, having both Dorian and Sera, people of hugely different societal backgrounds having sad LGBT-related back-stories might have seemed to look like pandering on Bioware's part. 



#41050
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Briala is a class traitor AND a race traitor. An elf who snuggled up with the human empress while her people were starving. It doesn't get worse.

That's so many types of wrong.

 

Fucked up my graphics tho. Everything looks low and shiny. I'm waiting for that hotfix.

The workaround they posted works perfectly for me. It's really easy to do...