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It's all good Lob, it was a great discussion. I actually like the Dalish for the most part I just have a hard time understanding how they could exalt a history they know so little about, guess that's why I'm an atheist lol. :)

 

Thank you for sharing that. I'm glad you feel that way. :)

 

I don't think they all exalt Arlathan; I doubt the Sabrae Clan would have considered the possibility that the Arlathan elves summoned Audacity if that was the case, particularly given the orthodox view on spirits. Frankly, I'm more interested in the modern Dalish than in the Arlathan elves. Of course, different Dalish want different things. Some want their own homeland, but others want something else, like hunter Taniel wrote in his journal: "The keeper says that one day the Dalish will find a home that we can call our own. But why? Why should we tie ourselves to stone constructions like the humans and the dwarves? What is wrong with the life we have now? We owe nothing to anyone, we have no master but ourselves, and we go where the halla and the gods take us. There is nothing more wonderful than sitting on an aravel as it flies through the forest, pulled by our halla. We are truly free, for the first time in our people's history. Why should we change this?" It's one of the appeals of playing as a Dalish protagonist: versatility in defining who you are.

 

There are some theories about what has lead to Sera becoming who she is, and what has shaped her views. Perhaps some of Sera's past will be revealed in DLC?


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Aye-O! What's happening? Can't be bothered to read through all the pages... just like every other day. What did I miss?

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It could also be argued that Merrill is unique in her experience with both the Dalish and City Elves. Being born into the Dalish she is knowledgable of their beliefs and religion. At the end of act 3 of DA 2 she's spent 7 years in the Kirkwall alienage. She's gotten to see how both sides live and has likely come to see flaws in both systems.
Sera on the other hand has distanced herself from both, choosing to see herself not as an Elf but as a Person, separate from both. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Perhaps after a period of time with an elf Inquisitor she could become more tolerant of Dalish society.

Consider Merrill in Act 2 of DA 2. If Hawke had asked her to give up the eluvian is she wanted to stay, she mostly likely would have taken the mirror and left. However at the end of Act 3 she's more than happy to get rid of the mirror if Hawke asks. If we could see the Inquisitors relationship with Sers take place over the span of several years Sera might become more excepting of the Dalish.
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Aye-O! What's happening? Can't be bothered to read through all the pages... just like every other day. What did I miss?

Just go back one page and you will be good. :-)

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It could also be argued that Merrill is unique in her experience with both the Dalish and City Elves. Being born into the Dalish she is knowledgable of their beliefs and religion. At the end of act 3 of DA 2 she's spent 7 years in the Kirkwall alienage. She's gotten to see how both sides live and has likely come to see flaws in both systems.
Sera on the other hand has distanced herself from both, choosing to see herself not as an Elf but as a Person, separate from both. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Perhaps after a period of time with an elf Inquisitor she could become more tolerant of Dalish society.

Consider Merrill in Act 2 of DA 2. If Hawke had asked her to give up the eluvian is she wanted to stay, she mostly likely would have taken the mirror and left. However at the end of Act 3 she's more than happy to get rid of the mirror if Hawke asks. If we could see the Inquisitors relationship with Sers take place over the span of several years Sera might become more excepting of the Dalish.

Wait...there were LIs in DA2 other than Isabela?
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Aye-O! What's happening? Can't be bothered to read through all the pages... just like every other day. What did I miss?


Elfy stuff.

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Elfy stuff.

Nah, the "elfy" stuff is lying in a gutter with several arrows protruding from it's back.
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Wait...there were LIs in DA2 other than Isabela?


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Wait...there were LIs in DA2 other than Isabela?


Lol for 99% of my playthroughs it was all about that sassy pirate with no pants. I did one playthrough with a rivalmanced Merrill. The arguing was glorious.

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Nah, the "elfy" stuff is lying in a gutter with several arrows protruding from it's back.


:lol:

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Isabella is so great. <3
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Whoops double post. My phone glitched out

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Lol for 99% of my playthroughs it was all about that sassy pirate with no pants. I did one playthrough with a rivalmanced Merrill. The arguing was glorious.


I like Merrill and tried romancing her but always ended up steering the pirate queen's ship.

What can I say? I like big boats I cannot lie.

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Isabella is so great. <3

Indeed, she stole my heart...then traded it for rum. :)

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Just go back one page and you will be good. :-)


More f***ing arguments about the Dalish. Really? This has been hammered out countless times. Now we are just making dents. For f*** sake! If you want to talk about the Dalish, start a new thread. I'm getting sick off this c**p!

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Indeed, she stole my heart...then traded it for rum. :)


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Because she thinks the Dalish should stop being the sorest losers in Thedosian history? Or that she cares about "Little people" regardless of race?

 

Because those seem like very modern, very just views to hold.

She doesn't care about little people regardless of race; she actively discriminates against elves.

 

 

More f***ing arguments about the Dalish. Really? This has been hammered out countless times. Now we are just making dents. For f*** sake! If you want to talk about the Dalish, start a new thread. I'm getting sick off this c**p!

The Dalish are Sera's central and most hotly debated issue. I'm sure Josephine is lovely if you wish to have a love interest who isn't soft-racegated.



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She doesn't care about little people regardless of race; she actively discriminates against elves.

 

Even though she gets pissed at how the elven servants get treated and when some killed  :whistle:


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Even though she gets pissed at how the elven servants get treated and when some killed  :whistle:

And yet would happily throw them under a bus by getting Briala executed later on. All this proves is that Sera is shortsighted, inconsistent, or both.



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She doesn't care about little people regardless of race; she actively discriminates against elves.


The Dalish are Sera's central and most hotly debated issue. I'm sure Josephine is lovely if you wish to have a love interest who isn't soft-racegated.


I know this. But it is just spiralling out of control, like every other time this issue is brought up. Why can't we just have a civil discussion?

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More f***ing arguments about the Dalish. Really? This has been hammered out countless times. Now we are just making dents. For f*** sake! If you want to talk about the Dalish, start a new thread. I'm getting sick off this c**p!

Haha, I think I might have been absent for that ordeal Lighting So, I apologize for participating in the "Elfy" debate. We should just spam images of Sera and let the healing begin. :)

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I know this. But it is just spiralling out of control, like every other time this issue is brought up. Why can't we just have a civil discussion?

We're simply debating in the style of the character of which we speak. I'm sure she'd be proud.



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Glorious.

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From warpaint wedensday to deathmatch thursday :D  Good morning Sera thread!

 

 

It's all good Lob, it was a great discussion. I actually like the Dalish for the most part I just have a hard time understanding how they could exalt a history and gods they know so little about, guess that's why I'm an atheist lol. :)

 

That i can actually field from personal experience. The gods part at least. I personally belong to a reconstructed ancestral faith and we have had little more than the names and domains of our gods along with the few mangled tales from folk tradition to work with (sound familiar? :P ). Are our practises and understanding of the gods diffrent than the ones our ancestors had? Most certainly. But faith is a funny thing that it doesn't really require facts or historical accuracy. Its just.. faith. Yeah, not really an explanation but it's how it is. People are funny, a lesson i learned a long time ago :P

 

And on topic, anyone got more laughing Sera pics around? Uncle had one but i'm sure there are more. A little variety for my desktop  :wub:



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From warpaint wedensday to deathmatch thursday :D  Good morning Sera thread!

 

 

What are all days of the week called here? I would like to know so that I can prepare whilst I sleep.