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[Fiery Phoenix]

It's what I've been saying. I'd very much like to see some more work done with Sera down the road cause I think there is an amazing character here if handled properly.

I hope so, but I'm doubtful.

 

It's just really odd that you can't anything about it. I would have liked something along the lines of what was done with Tali and her opinion on the geth, for instance. Or Ashley and non-humans. Or Garrus' entire attitude in the first ME (which also affected who he was in ME2 if you imported). And of course hardening Leliana and Alistair. Literally so many examples from previous BioWare games in which player input had an effect on other characters' personalities (to various extents).

[LightningPoodle]

It's what I've been saying. I'd very much like to see some more work done with Sera down the road cause I think there is an amazing character here if handled properly.

 

I reckon we will see it. I think all of the characters could do with a lot more development. They aren't bad as they are, but there is room to improve and I think it needs to be done in order to make these characters a lot more memorable. There are characters from previous games that I find are better than those in this game. That isn't right is it? The writing should have been stepped up a notch. The execution of those characters should be better and yet I still prefer Alistair over Iron Bull, Blackwall and Cullen.

[LightningPoodle]

I hope so, but I'm doubtful.

 

It's just really odd that you can't anything about it. I would have liked something along the lines of what was done with Tali and her opinion on the geth, for instance. Or Ashley and non-humans. Or Garrus' entire attitude in the first ME (which also affected who he was in ME2 if you imported). And of course hardening Leliana and Alistair. Literally so many examples from previous BioWare games in which player input had an effect on other characters' personalities (to various extents).

 

Mass Effect was a lot different though because the same characters were being developed across every instalment and every DLC. It's a little more difficult when you have one character have a starring role and then the next game, they are little more than a reference to an obscure decision.

[CrimsonN7]

It faded out just as it was starting...

 

 

But she did come and comfort Tressa just before. And asked her what was wrong because she was outside on the balcony. Another nail in the coffin of "Sera doesn't care about anyone but herself."

 

 

Wait, how did you get that scene in your game? First time round Josie came out to check up on me, I brought Sera to the ball but I wasn't locked into the romance by then. So I take it I did it wrong? Must I have the romance locked in? I have yet to do the gift scene, does that matter? I have yet to go to that Ball in my current run, would like to see that scene.

 

*I'm still catching up*

[Fiery Phoenix]

Mass Effect was a lot different though because the same characters were being developed across every instalment and every DLC. It's a little more difficult when you have one character have a starring role and then the next game, they are little more than a reference to an obscure decision.

Of course, though it could still happen to a certain extent.

 

I do believe an expansion could theoretically mitigate this issue. It's really just a question of whether BioWare sees any real value in Sera's character beyond who she is in vanilla Inquisition. I'm unfortunately not holding my breath, but I do have hope.

[LightningPoodle]

 

Wait, how did you get that scene in your game? First time round Josie came out to check up on me, I brought Sera to the ball but I wasn't locked into the romance by then. So I take it I did it wrong? Must I have the romance locked in? I have yet to do the gift scene, does that matter? I have yet to go to that Ball in my current run, would like to see that scene.

 

*I'm still catching up*

 

I think we're all still catching up, buttercup.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Wait, how did you get that scene in your game? First time round Josie came out to check up on me, I brought Sera to the ball but I wasn't locked into the romance by then. So I take it I did it wrong? Must I have the romance locked in? I have yet to do the gift scene, does that matter? I have yet to go to that Ball in my current run, would like to see that scene.

*I'm still catching up*

Shame! I've locked in the romance and done the gift quest so I guess it must be that...

[LightningPoodle]

Of course, though it could still happen to a certain extent.

 

I do believe an expansion could theoretically mitigate this issue. It's really just a question of whether BioWare sees any real value in Sera's character beyond who she is in vanilla Inquisition. I'm unfortunately not holding my breath, but I do have hope.

 

If they didn't see any value in her character, they wouldn't have put it in. As I've said before, BioWare pride themselves on their character development. They will do something with her, I am certain off it.

[Roamingmachine]

 
Wait, how did you get that scene in your game? First time round Josie came out to check up on me, I brought Sera to the ball but I wasn't locked into the romance by then. So I take it I did it wrong? Must I have the romance locked in? I have yet to do the gift scene, does that matter? I have yet to go to that Ball in my current run, would like to see that scene.
 
*I'm still catching up*

As I recall, I was pretty far in the romance at that point myself when I got that scene. The gift scene is pretty important methinks.

Sidenote: Just recruited Iron Bull on my second playthrough. Annnnnd he starts talking about the qun. Why must you make my knees go weak with lust and make my skin crawl at the same time? >.< ARGH!

[The Loyal Nub]

I hope so, but I'm doubtful.

 

It's just really odd that you can't anything about it. I would have liked something along the lines of what was done with Tali and her opinion on the geth, for instance. Or Ashley and non-humans. Or Garrus' entire attitude in the first ME (which also affected who he was in ME2 if you imported). And of course hardening Leliana and Alistair. Literally so many examples from previous BioWare games in which player input had an effect on other characters' personalities (to various extents).

 

Why not? They've re-used characters from past games and shown them changing their attitudes or behaviors. I can easily see them revisiting her in an expansion or even if they move the game to Nevarra or some place north next time she could show up and be a bit more mature or they might offer us more of a chance to engage her attitudes head on.

 

I know they read these forums and I have to think they are already aware of her reception and the positives and negatives.

[The Loyal Nub]

Shame! I've locked in the romance and done the gift quest so I guess it must be that...

 

Going to the ball this weekend I think. I've left it to do a little late. But I am locked in with Cassandra at this point so I want to see what her's offers.

[WildOrchid]

 

Wait, how did you get that scene in your game? First time round Josie came out to check up on me, I brought Sera to the ball but I wasn't locked into the romance by then. So I take it I did it wrong? Must I have the romance locked in? I have yet to do the gift scene, does that matter? I have yet to go to that Ball in my current run, would like to see that scene.

 

*I'm still catching up*

 

Yeah, you have to lock her romance first. I failed that my first pt.

 

 

Funny how you get Josie by default though.... kinda like Liara.

[LightningPoodle]

Yeah, you have to lock her romance first. I failed that my first pt.

 

 

Funny how you get Josie by default though.... kinda like Liara.

 

Anyone know if you get to dance with Cass? I asked her and she said no, and then Josie spoke to me at the end. I wasn't locked in at that point though but I would like to know.

[The Loyal Nub]

Anyone know if you get to dance with Cass? I asked her and she said no, and then Josie spoke to me at the end. I wasn't locked in at that point though but I would like to know.

 

I'll know after the weekend. I am romancing her and it's locked in. If she turns me down...that's it man. 

[Efvie]

I hope so, but I'm doubtful.

 

It's just really odd that you can't anything about it. I would have liked something along the lines of what was done with Tali and her opinion on the geth, for instance. Or Ashley and non-humans. Or Garrus' entire attitude in the first ME (which also affected who he was in ME2 if you imported). And of course hardening Leliana and Alistair. Literally so many examples from previous BioWare games in which player input had an effect on other characters' personalities (to various extents).

 

Spoiler, and a personal disappointment, but the Warden apparently has had very little influence on Leliana in the end.

[LightningPoodle]

I'll know after the weekend. I am romancing her and it's locked in. If she turns me down...that's it man. 

 

I hope she does have one. I would totally do another play through for her.

[CrimsonN7]

I really do wish there was some flexibility to all this. I'm not as bothered by her beliefs on the elves as some others on here, but it's odd that there isn't any sort of development on that front; you literally can't do a thing about it. In retrospect, BioWare has often given us the option to alter a character's point of view on a certain topic. This isn't the case with Sera, which is both strange and disappointing. It's a perfect opportunity for player input to be reflected on a character.

 

Agreed, just wanted a middle ground there. *still sighing about it*

Shame! I've locked in the romance and done the gift quest so I guess it must be that...

 

Oh, well if I need to have the gift scene done to get that then I'll have to hold off going to the Ball for sometime. Want to see that.

[Serza]

Crazy!

 

 

What the actual, legit f*ck?

 

PC is 250

 

Per playthrough or total?

That's like... Five playthroughs, since I don't want to ever erase any character

[Fiery Phoenix]

If they didn't see any value in her character, they wouldn't have put it in. As I've said before, BioWare pride themselves on their character development. They will do something with her, I am certain off it.

I think it's more complicated than that, to be honest. But I will keep my fingers crossed! 

 

Why not? They've re-used characters from past games and shown them changing their attitudes or behaviors. I can easily see them revisiting her in an expansion or even if they move the game to Nevarra or some place north next time she could show up and be a bit more mature or they might offer us more of a chance to engage her attitudes head on.

 

I know they read these forums and I have to think they are already aware of her reception and the positives and negatives.

I would say it mainly boils down to how utterly disposable Sera is compared to most others. Not only is she skippable, but you can kick her out at any point in your game.

 

You could argue that Leliana was the same in Origins and it ultimately didn't change a thing about her importance to the series, but I'm not sure of the chances of that happening again--much less with Sera's character.

 

But then again, I'm just being super cynical, of course. I hope I'm wrong about all this.

 

Spoiler, and a personal disappointment, but the Warden apparently has had very little influence on Leliana in the end.

That's probably because the series isn't as interconnected as, say, Mass Effect was. The main thing is the Warden's influence remained relevant within DA:O, and that's what I would like to see happen with Sera. I don't even expect to see her in a hypothetical sequel to hope whatever we tell her in Inquisition will have a long-term effect on her character.

[Efvie]

I really do wish there was some flexibility to all this. I'm not as bothered by her beliefs on the elves as some others on here, but it's odd that there isn't any sort of development on that front; you literally can't do a thing about it. In retrospect, BioWare has often given us the option to alter a character's point of view on a certain topic. This isn't the case with Sera, which is both strange and disappointing. It's a perfect opportunity for player input to be reflected on a character.

 

I understand the desire, but given that she is both scared and vindicated, it would be extraordinarily difficult to change her opinion right then.

 

In my opinion, the underlying psychological vulnerability and resulting defensiveness is a fundamental part of her personality—far more so than her orientation, for example. It would take a long time to work through this particular manifestation.

[The Loyal Nub]

I think it's more complicated than that, to be honest. But I will keep my fingers crossed! 

 

I would say the main reason I'm not expecting that to happen boils down to how utterly disposable Sera is compared to most others. Not only is she skippable, but you can kick her out at any point in your game.

 

You could argue that Leliana was the same in Origins and it ultimately didn't change a thing about her importance to the series, but I'm not sure of the chances of that happening again--much less with Sera's character.

 

 

Confession time: On my first playthrough of Origins I neglected to recruit Leliana. It didn't seem to matter much. I even used that playthrough here for the world state and Leliana is on the team and clearly powerful. So yeah I think there is precedence here that would indicate Sera can be used again by BioWare and be important, perhaps more important, to a later story.

[CrimsonN7]

Yunno that hilarious scene when you're deep into the romance with Sera *giggity* and Vivienne expresses her disapproval towards Sera being involved with you, what does the Inquisitor say if you pick the option to back up Sera? I chose the neutral response in that scene, corrected em both, just curious, what does the Inquisitor say in the other response, if anyone picked it.

[LightningPoodle]

Confession time: On my first playthrough of Origins I neglected to recruit Leliana. It didn't seem to matter much. I even used that playthrough here for the world state and Leliana is on the team and clearly powerful. So yeah I think there is precedence here that would indicate Sera can be used again by BioWare and be important, perhaps more important, to a later story.

 

*turns on a flamethrower* You what!? You didn't recruit the gorgeous redhead!

[Fiery Phoenix]

Confession time: On my first playthrough of Origins I neglected to recruit Leliana. It didn't seem to matter much. I even used that playthrough here for the world state and Leliana is on the team and clearly powerful. So yeah I think there is precedence here that would indicate Sera can be used again by BioWare and be important, perhaps more important, to a later story.

Of course; I'm not disputing that. It's the likelihood of it happening with Sera that makes me so doubtful.

[LightningPoodle]

Of course; I'm not disputing that. It's the likelihood of it happening with Sera that makes me so doubtful.

 

Don't be so doubtful, love. It'll be ok.