Sera "The Artful Dodger" discussion thread - V2 (now with more V1)
#44776
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 09:18
if a person starts off trying to point out a flaw with you but only when you call them out on THEIR bs, that's a problem. it means they don't want to accept responsibility for their part in whatever. Saying something like "pshhh I never thought about it"...it just doesn't fit and it doesn't sit well with me. Especially since he's all rah rah about how the Tevinter imperium operates but this one thing...you never thought about it? But this is because of how I feel IRL. I don't really know how well poc are even treated in Thedas because the only area I know that has them there is Rivain and I know nothing about that area except that's Izzy's homeland and that one circle got anulled there. Actually you don't even actively see poc(ser barris, mother giselle, viv...and your character if you choose? that it?). That's an entirely diff issue. And I get that slavery there is not just relagated to one group. I get that. I just don't like that answer he gave me. And I never will.
Leli is my waifu and I went IN on her for that jacked off way of thinking she had about elves. She didn't disapprove. She acknowledged her ignorance and grew. This man gets defensive. Bruh...miss me wit alla dat.
but...I sidetracked us. That is all I have to say on the matter.
- veeia aime ceci
#44777
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 09:25
it depends on how you rpg your human noble. All of mine are poc because that's what I identify with. He tried to justify it by pointing to the conditions of other folk in Ferelden...alienages and things of that nature.
if a person starts off trying to point out a flaw with you but only when you call them out on THEIR bs, that's a problem. it means they don't want to accept responsibility for their part in whatever. Saying something like "pshhh I never thought about it"...it just doesn't fit and it doesn't sit well with me. Especially since he's all rah rah about how the Tevinter imperium operates but this one thing...you never thought about it? But this is because of how I feel IRL. I don't really know how well poc are even treated in Thedas because the only area I know that has them there is Rivain and I know nothing about that area except that's Izzy's homeland and that one circle got anulled there. Actually you don't even actively see poc(ser barris, mother giselle, viv...and your character if you choose? that it?). That's an entirely diff issue. And I get that slavery there is not just relagated to one group. I get that. I just don't like that answer he gave me. And I never will.
Leli is my waifu and I went IN on her for that jacked off way of thinking she had about elves. She didn't disapprove. She acknowledged her ignorance and grew. This man gets defensive. Bruh...miss me wit alla dat.
but...I sidetracked us. That is all I have to say on the matter.
There are a bunch of poc npc's in the game. Or are you talking about important npc's ?
#44778
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 09:49
My reading of that Dorian scene is that it was initially written when the player character was human noble only, and they didn't realize how it doesn't really work with any other character.
Dorian is on the defensive, talking about his homeland, and wanting to see the best of it. A human noble acting self righteous and extremely judgy there would be somewhat hypocritical, because while there isn't slavery in the free marches, there are REALLY crappy things like alienages and refugee camps and places like Darktown in kirkwall, and Trev should probably shouldn't throw stones while living in a glass house, ya know, because they are also benefiting from their privilege and the exploitation of others. Obviously Tevinter is worse, but nobility in Free Marches and Fereldan and Orlais absolutely benefit from the subjugation of the lower classes. Like, it's still a privileged twit thing to say (and Dorian is one, that's his huge flaw...liek it's notable that he never even thought to ask a slave how their life was before he left Tevinter, because it was Just How Things Were), but I think...when viewed in that lens, it's less of a 'TEVINTER SLAVERY IS OK' and more of a "yeah it sucks but come on like you also suck, so dont get too high and mighty on me"
When he's saying it to an elf or a dwarf or even a qunari tho, it's like. Bro?
Hummm...
But for all we know...a human noble could be against the crappy system in thedas and the free marches . She could be like cousland..where she doesnt take any servant and they are treated welll....
So not cose ya play a human noble mean..ya agree with the system . Ya could be a faithful chantry person and wanna do good....still .
Edit: or not a chantry person..ya know....
#44779
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:09
Hmm. Wanted to do the weekend MP Axe event, but...
The game either loses connection, or refuses to load, effectively crashing.
#44780
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:10
I'm not going to defend his attitude in that conversation. I took it the same way veeia did but I can see why that won't fly with you. I will say that there's a banter he has with Cassandra where he's angling to find something that they have in common. He talks about them both hating their families and I'm pretty sure that his being slave-owners is part of the list of their faults that he gives. That or Cass says it and he agrees...it depends on how you rpg your human noble. All of mine are poc because that's what I identify with. He tried to justify it by pointing to the conditions of other folk in Ferelden...alienages and things of that nature.
if a person starts off trying to point out a flaw with you but only when you call them out on THEIR bs, that's a problem. it means they don't want to accept responsibility for their part in whatever. Saying something like "pshhh I never thought about it"...it just doesn't fit and it doesn't sit well with me. Especially since he's all rah rah about how the Tevinter imperium operates but this one thing...you never thought about it? But this is because of how I feel IRL. I don't really know how well poc are even treated in Thedas because the only area I know that has them there is Rivain and I know nothing about that area except that's Izzy's homeland and that one circle got anulled there. Actually you don't even actively see poc(ser barris, mother giselle, viv...and your character if you choose? that it?). That's an entirely diff issue. And I get that slavery there is not just relagated to one group. I get that. I just don't like that answer he gave me. And I never will.
Leli is my waifu and I went IN on her for that jacked off way of thinking she had about elves. She didn't disapprove. She acknowledged her ignorance and grew. This man gets defensive. Bruh...miss me wit alla dat.
but...I sidetracked us. That is all I have to say on the matter.
#44781
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:13
If you've got Suledin Keep then Leliana can farm it for you on the war table if you give her the leather assignment.Where are all the gorram great bears?
Sera's bow needs a new grip with crit chance.
- Basement Cat aime ceci
#44782
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:23
If you've got Suledin Keep then Leliana can farm it for you on the war table if you give her the leather assignment.
Leliana knows the good stuff. Josephine is useless for resources collection quests. Unless you want to get throne accessories.
- WildOrchid aime ceci
#44783
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:32
Leliana gets the Tier Three goods! Talking of thrones I love the mage one. It's badass.Leliana knows the good stuff. Josephine is useless for resources collection quests. Unless you want to get throne accessories.
#44784
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:35
QUICK! Someone !! Tell Spielberg...he is missing...
A DINOSAURE!!!
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HAHAHA Jurrassic Park 4 : Brush your Teeths !!

- Nharia1 aime ceci
#44785
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:36
#44786
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:39
Here is my Qun Qun ![]()
And yeah...even changing from Mage to warrior...apparently I'm doomed to wear that brownish coat...yurk

#44787
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:44
People from Birmingham don't sound like Alix, well not unless they went to a posh school. Also British people with Asian heritage know very well that the stuff you get in a Balti house is not authentically Indian. It's some of us whiteys who don't....Speaking of POC, this is my current Inquisitor:
Spoiler
#44788
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:47
People from Birmingham don't sound like Alix, well not unless they went to a posh school. Also British people with Asian heritage know very well that the stuff you get in a Balti house is not authentically Indian. It's some of us whiteys who don't....
#44789
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:48
Leliana gets the Tier Three goods! Talking of thrones I love the mage one. It's badass.
My least favorite throne is probably the Orlesian one. So gaudy...
And of course Leliana gets the tier 3 goods! She has an eye for quality. ![]()
#44790
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:49
Anyone notice Mage Throne...when ya side with templar ?? It is sitting right there in middle of the Hall ![]()
#44791
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:52
Ah, text. The perfect medium for humour.People from Birmingham don't sound like Alix, well not unless they went to a posh school. Also British people with Asian heritage know very well that the stuff you get in a Balti house is not authentically Indian. It's some of us whiteys who don't....
#44792
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 11:58
Geez...where is everyone ??
#44793
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 11:58
Been playing DAMP. Got both the event thingys.
#44794
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 12:04
she is not that...romance her again
Oh I will!
I'm playing as a elf this time around who's going to romance Josephine.
But Najma Adaar, my Qunari Warrior, is going to be romancing Sera.
I think Sera's great. I love the fact that she petty, naive, frustrating at times as well as being sweet, vulnerable and kick arse. And funny.
The only time I think I got annoyed at her was the reaction to Quizzy drinking from the well (a test to see if there was a difference with OGB). But it was so in character. And my Quizzy didn't stay made with her for long!
Well acted and written.
One of my favourites in the game (along with Varric, Iron Bull, Dorian and Cassandra).
#44795
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 12:04
Farming schematics again. Got the swan bow! Woot! It looks so silly but I love it.
I'm farming in general. Collecting silverite, looking for fade touched silverite, upgrading my potions and tonics, etc. Gotta get those bees for Sera!
#44796
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 12:05
Screeeenieeeeee ![]()




#44797
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 12:07
Almost completely off topic, but since I like the people here I want to wish a happy winter solstice to one and all
Have a Christmas Sera. Just....someone cheer her up xD
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Also:
- YourFunnyUncle et Nharia1 aiment ceci
#44798
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 12:10
And some Seraaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Pouty Sera..so cuttttttttttteeeeeeeeeee ![]()


- Nharia1 et Serza aiment ceci
#44799
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 12:13
Almost completely off topic, but since I like the people here I want to wish a happy winter solstice to one and all
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Have a Christmas Sera. Just....someone cheer her up xD
source: http://vaahlkult.deviantart.com/
Also:
Or someone smooche her..she is glaring hard !!
I volunteeeeeer ! Pick meh! Pick meh!!





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