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#46051
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I've mentioned it before but Sten murdered an entire family because he couldn't find his sword, yet many love him. Sera kills a noble that tried to kill everyone in the group and she's the devil.

The key here is that we didn't see Sten do this. It makes a big difference for people. Also he killed them over a thing. Sure, it was significant to him, but still. It's easy to gloss over the fact that he killed children because we didn't see him do it.

 

I wonder how people would have reacted if they had shown that in flashback.



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I think that's true for all the characters in this game. And it's true in real life too. How much do we truly know people? It's pretty rare that a person is completely without depth. People who are usually fall under the label sociopath, fanatic, monomaniac, etc. Erimond is a good example. Even Cole says so. :D

 

 

Ah Erimond, man I hated that guy, like srsly been a loooooong time since I've come across a Bioware character I hated as much as him. 

 

Don't have any companions I dislike or strongly dislike in this game oddly enough but man I hated that guy. If only we were allowed to make him tranquil as a non-mage. *pouts*



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I love Erimonds armor tho. If only we could loot it off his corpse, sigh.

 

...priorities, I have them. 


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#46054
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Dorian is a good example. He straight up has slave apologetics, but the response I've seen is UGH GAIDER, I'm gonna ignore that because he's my baby, not "this is a flaw and I can't accept him for it."

Alistair too. He calls Morrigan a b*tch, just like Sera does to Viv, but with him it's not an unacceptable flaw that makes him irredeemable.

 

Not to mention Alistair can be childish sometimes, but ppl are like "Muh babbu! I'll protect you." with him.

Though even if Sera doesn't get some character growth, i don't necessarily see it as a bad thing even though i'll admit, i was one of those people who wanted some good growth for her.. then some posters in the Sera thread got me thinking: "Why would i want her to change so she can fit to my views?".

 

Some people just can't change and it's a life fact. If something big, life changing, happens to them, then maybe. Maybe Sera is one of those people who either won't change or will, with time.

 

Or maybe Lukas will indeed surprise us in a future DLC. Who knows.


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#46055
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Damn i had to google Erimond, lmfao. I totally forgot him.



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Not to mention Alistair can be childish sometimes, but ppl are like "Muh babbu! I'll protect you." with him.

Though even if Sera doesn't get some character growth, i don't necessarily see it as a bad thing even though i'll admit, i was one of those people who wanted some good growth for her.. then some posters in the Sera thread got me thinking: "Why would i want her to change so she can fit to my views?".

 

Some people just can't change and it's a life fact. If something big, life changing, happens to them, then maybe. Maybe Sera is one of those people who either won't change or will, with time.

I think you hit the nail on the head right there. A lot of people who complain about her lack of character growth (myself included at one point) really mean that she doesn't change to their liking.

 

Sera feels adrift in the big bad world and she clings to her beliefs like the one solid rock amid the crashing waves. She's not letting go in a hurry, unless she finds safe ground elsewhere.


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Damn, i love him/her. He/she makes interesting points about Sera overall.



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sighs dreamily, love when this thread gets all analytical, Can read stuff like that for hours. and sometimes contribute, when I'm feeling brave enough.

Please do! I loved your last analysis posts. I'd love to hear more of your thoughts. :)

 

Veeia, dear, what do you say we adopt Addie? 


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Damn, i love him/her. He/she makes interesting points about Sera overall.

 

I love how he called what is in essence an essay, "short-hand".  :lol:



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I love how he called what is in essence an essay, "short-hand".  :lol:

I would have liked to see the whole thing, to be honest. So interesting!


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Damn, i love him/her. He/she makes interesting points about Sera overall.

 

Her, a lesbian blogger unless I read it wrong.



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Her, a lesbian blogger unless I read it wrong.

 

Oh, i completely missed it.



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Please do! I loved your last analysis posts. I'd love to hear more of your thoughts. :)

 

Veeia, dear, what do you say we adopt Addie? 

It takes me a bit longer to analyze characters unless I've already talked extensively about it with others to have my thoughts all already collected.. sometimes I get somewhere with typing it up on here but then the thread moves on and we're already on a new topic.... but I'll try to contribute more often.  ^_^ 



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Oh, i completely missed it.

 

Well she says queer, may be bi, I'm swinging wild with my guess. :P



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I would have liked to see the whole thing, to be honest. So interesting!

 

I don't know if I could get through his/hers more detailed and thorough argument. It would be like trying to climb Mount Everest without any oxygen tanks.



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It takes me a bit longer to analyze characters unless I've already talked extensively about it with others to have my thoughts all already collected.. sometimes I get somewhere with typing it up on here but then the thread moves on and we're already on a new topic.... but I'll try to contribute more often.  ^_^

That's ok. Just post something and we'll work from there. It takes time for me too and I get new ideas from others' comments too. That's conversation! :D



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I don't know if I could get through his/hers more detailed and thorough argument. It would be like trying to climb Mount Everest without any oxygen tanks.

Psss. Breathing is for the weak!



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Quizzy: "You don't have to kill her" (this chantry lady whose Leliana's about to kill)

 

Leli: "No, it's dangerous for the inquisition." *kills her anyway*

 

Me: 272.gif

 

 

 

 

I lost her. DDDDDD: Darth Leli is back.

 

Also i just realized, Leli instantly ignores the quizzy's orders about not killing that lady and nobody makes a fuss, but ppl are burning Sera for killing that noble without quizzy's orders. Oh, the irony... :rolleyes:

 

I failed to save her from the darkside my first playthough as well. Who would have expect Bioware to put such an important conversation right at the start of the game? My reaction was the same. lol


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#46069
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Psss. Breathing is for the weak!

 

Breathing is for the living, Kitten.  ;)



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Bless that post, I agree 100%. Reblogging. Between that and the Sera meta that I'm gonna be throwing out there after I finish this romance, I will be playing the fun game of "how many followers will I lose?", but eh. I tag my stuff, if you're so up your own butt you can't handle me tagged defending my waifu~~~, then bye. :lol: 


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And who the bloody hell is the Inquisitor to judge Lels so harshly, look at all the folk we've killed in the name of the Inquisition, pls.

 

Errr.........you do realize the player's title is "Inquisitor". Judging people is literally in the job description. Why you blame inky for doing her job? :P



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Breathing is for the living, Kitten.  ;)

I'm the Devil. I'll just get another host if the current one dies.  :devil:



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Please do! I loved your last analysis posts. I'd love to hear more of your thoughts. :)

 

Veeia, dear, what do you say we adopt Addie? 

 

Awww, yes!!! Hey Addie, welcome to the fam. Do you like cookies? I will make you cookies. Like, good ones. I am better at baking than Sera. :lol: 


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#46074
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I'm the Devil. I'll just get another host if the current one dies.  :devil:

 

:o Teach me your magic powers.


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Awww, yes!!! Hey Addie, welcome to the fam. Do you like cookies? I will make you cookies. Like, good ones. I am better at baking than Sera. :lol:

So am I! My forte is cakes though. Do you like cakes, sweetie? My specialty is Devil's food cake.

 

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