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Long post but it explains some of their faults http://shouldbewriti...a-but-like-male

 

That's an interesting post.

 

I always found DA tumblr to be quite male-LI oriented so I'm not surprised by any of this.



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Not to mention Alistair can be childish sometimes, but ppl are like "Muh babbu! I'll protect you." with him.

 

 

Not me. I loathed him in Origins. I hated having to put him on the throne of Ferelden. He's a weak character through and through. You can even see his weakness as a King in this game as he can barely do anything to protect the people of his kingdom. But everytime I've voiced my opinion of him on this forum (not this thread) I've gotten the bolded reaction. It's too bad in this game we can't topple him.  :lol:

 

Anyway, just peeking in. Presents are all wrapped and I am ready for the big feast at Mom's before we do it all over again tomorrow at her parents. Hope everyone is having a swell day (and holiday if you're celebrating).  :D



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Errr.........you do realize the player's title is "Inquisitor". Judging people is literally in the job description. Why you blame inky for doing her job? :P

 

Didn't appreciate that to get the good side I had to resort to 2nd guessing my spymaster's actions even though I agreed with her solutions to traitors in her ranks/enemies. I prefer a hardened Lels, I like her cold steel at times.


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Awww, yes!!! Hey Addie, welcome to the fam. Do you like cookies? I will make you cookies. Like, good ones. I am better at baking than Sera. :lol:

I do like cookies... chocolate chip are the best, raisins are good as well - somewhere Sera disapproves

 

So am I! My forte is cakes though. Do you like cakes, sweetie? My specialty is Devil's food cake.

 

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Cakes are also good...

 

 

and now I'm adopted... Didn't see this coming, but a very welcomed response yes  ^_^ 


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Didn't appreciate that to get the good side I had to resort to 2nd guessing my spymaster's actions even though I agreed with her solutions to traitors in her ranks/enemies. I prefer a hardened Lels, I like her cold steel at times.

 

To get that though you have to accept that it means her death as a warm person with any feelings for anything other than being ruthless in her job. I felt like I was watching her death in this game, as a person, and it was chilling and kind of sad.



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Didn't appreciate that to get the good side I had to resort to 2nd guessing my spymaster's actions even though I agreed with her solutions to traitors in her ranks/enemies. I prefer a hardened Lels, I like her cold steel at times.

 

CrimsonN7 to Leliana: "I can feel your anger, it gives you focus, makes you stronger."



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Though even if Sera doesn't get some character growth, i don't necessarily see it as a bad thing even though i'll admit, i was one of those people who wanted some good growth for her.. then some posters in the Sera thread got me thinking: "Why would i want her to change so she can fit to my views?".

 

Some people just can't change and it's a life fact. If something big, life changing, happens to them, then maybe. Maybe Sera is one of those people who either won't change or will, with time.

 

I'm fine with her not changing drastically.  I'd prefer it, actually.  But, I once rage-quit a Baldur's Gate 2 romance playthrough because you could change one of the LIs morality alignment via a romance conversation.

 

I like Sera how she is now even with her sucky parts (and even if it means she dumps my elf).  Though, I don't mind a bit of development/change and I think Sera goes through some of it but I hate when it gets to the point where I feel I'm 'fixing' the character to my character's (or my) liking so they are a more palatable romance/companion.


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#46083
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Not me. I loathed him in Origins. I hated having to put him on the throne of Ferelden. He's a weak character through and through. You can even see his weakness as a King in this game as he can barely do anything to protect the people of his kingdom. But everytime I've voiced my opinion of him on this forum (not this thread) I've gotten the bolded reaction. It's too bad in this game we can't topple him.  :lol:

 

 

Well you can always leave him in the Fade, I'm kinda in a pickle in my current playthrough as I wouldn't have an issue leaving both Hawke and Alistair in the Fade, honestly. 



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I do like cookies... chocolate chip are the best, raisins are good as well - somewhere Sera disapproves

 

Cakes are also good...

 

 

and now I'm adopted... Didn't see this coming, but a very welcomed response yes  ^_^ 

 

You're adopted? Join the club! You're looking at it's only other member - me. We'll be the best of friends!  :D



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Well you can always leave him in the Fade, I'm kinda in a pickle in my current playthrough as I wouldn't have an issue leaving both Hawke and Alistair in the Fade, honestly. 

 

If I get the opportunity I certainly well and I will cackle evilly while doing so!



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Jer pls

 

Happy Xmas 2 u btw.

 

Happy Xmas, patatah!

 

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I think Sera could have some character growth. If you look at Carver, I think you can see how Lukas can write a character who changes over time but doesn't dramatically depart from their roots. The game didn't give her much room to do so, too compressed, but it would be fun to see where she goes in DLCs...which is actually where the best Carver stuff came out, actually.
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I think Sera could have some character growth. If you look at Carver, I think you can see how Lukas can write a character who changes over time but doesn't dramatically depart from their roots. The game didn't give her much room to do so, too compressed, but it would be fun to see where she goes in DLCs...which is actually where the best Carver stuff came out, actually.

 

That's true.

 

I'm also hoping this game gets a larger expansion type add-on that builds on the Inquisitor and companion's stories (but not like Awakening where we had new companions XD)


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To get that though you have to accept that it means her death as a warm person with any feelings for anything other than being ruthless in her job. I felt like I was watching her death in this game, as a person, and it was chilling and kind of sad.

 

What annoys me is the nice mix we had with DAO hardened Lels is gone, she was more ruthless but she had her jovial moments, granted so much has happened to her in the 10yrs since we last saw her but still. Allow her to be more ruthlessly efficient and she potentially turns into a psychopath, ugh balance is gone. I just don't like the soft soft approach much, but I'll try it once for curiosity sake in this run.


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What annoys me is the nice mix we had with DAO hardened Lels is gone, she was more ruthless but she had her jovial moments, granted so much has happened to her in the 10yrs since we last saw her but still. Allow her to be more ruthlessly efficient and she potentially turns into a psychopath, ugh balance is gone. I just don't like the soft soft approach much, but I'll try it once for curiosity sake in this run.

Well, she kinda reached breaking point, didn't she? Losing Justinia was just too much. If you combine that with losing the Warden (potentially), it's not really a stretch that she would go off the deep end.



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Well, she kinda reached breaking point, didn't she? Losing Justinia was just too much. If you combine that with losing the Warden (potentially), it's not really a stretch that she would go off the deep end.

 

There's that and her new job (which is basically her whole life now) is pretty mentally taxing.

 

I guess I don't see her as a psychopath regardless.



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Well, she kinda reached breaking point, didn't she? Losing Justinia was just too much. If you combine that with losing the Warden (potentially), it's not really a stretch that she would go off the deep end.

 

Alot has happened indeed. Still prefer my hardened Lels but not so much the mental breakdown it can lead too :/



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There's that and her new job (which is basically her whole life now) is pretty mentally taxing.

 

I guess I don't see her as a psychopath regardless.

Not psychopath, maybe, but definitely broken. Leliana was always a bit unstable. The scales tipped just a little to far this time.

 

Loved Marjolaine, was betrayed. Saved by Dorothea, found the Maker. Joined the Warden (potentially found and lost love, murdered or risks losing her love to the Calling). Justinia dies. The fact that all she has left is her job is very problematic. I think the Inquisitor stepping in is a good thing in more ways than one. It's not about second guessing her. It's to show that she doesn't have to bear the burden alone. There is still someone she can go to if she has doubts. I think that is the most crucial point about intervening. To show her she is not abandoned. She is not alone.


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Yeah I get why it happens I just don't like it. Waah, Leli. <3
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I feel like there will be some big DLCs with this game... I'm not sure what gives it that vibe, but ... I think there's a lot we still need to cover... Or maybe it's just my desire

 

Honestly I've never been left wanting or desiring more from the other dragon age games... it feels like I was just starting to scratch the surface with all of the companions, and then the game was done (140 hour playthrough)... not saying they did a bad job, I'm saying they did a really GOOD job. I'm not wanting to be done with these characters just yet. (I've actually started reading Sera/Lavellan fanfics too.. which I never really did with all of the other games, it felt weird to read heroXli fics before... and now I just can't get enough...)

 

 

And I just read this giant spoiler things about what EXACTLY happened at the final scene after the credits, so I know that whole solas plot line will not be closed in this game, but I do expect some final dlc akin to "Witch Hunt" ... well mostly expect it... It's a bit hard to actually know given how BIG this situation is... or maybe i'm just hopeful because solas was one of the ones i was most excited to romance...still havent romanced him...


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The DA game I wanted and still wish we could see more of is Awakenings. God I love those companions so much.
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I feel like there will be some big DLCs with this game... I'm not sure what gives it that vibe, but ... I think there's a lot we still need to cover... Or maybe it's just my desire

 

Honestly I've never been left wanting or desiring more from the other dragon age games... it feels like I was just starting to scratch the surface with all of the companions, and then the game was done (140 hour playthrough)... not saying they did a bad job, I'm saying they did a really GOOD job. I'm not wanting to be done with these characters just yet. (I've actually started reading Sera/Lavellan fanfics too.. which I never really did with all of the other games, it felt weird to read heroXli fics before... and now I just can't get enough...)

If we get a DLC that adds post main quest dialogue I will be very happy. It just feels so wrong that the characters suddenly grow tight-lipped. Job's done, don't want to talk to you anymore.  :crying:


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If we get a DLC that adds post main quest dialogue I will be very happy. It just feels so wrong that the characters suddenly grow tight-lipped. Job's done, don't want to talk to you anymore.  :crying:

Yeah, I would pay money just for that honestly... would rather not have to pay money, but Gah I'm not done with you guys yet! Talk to me!  I mean after Dorian's personal quest, I had absolutely no dialogue options with him left to talk about, and i got that as soon as i got to Skyhold  :unsure: 



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This is so adorbs, i have to post it

 

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"krem, cole and sera spending some quality time together \ 0 /"

 

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I totes headcanon Krem being the big bro of these two k.


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This is so adorbs, i have to post it

 

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"krem, cole and sera spending some quality time together \ 0 /"

 

X

 

I totes headcanon Krem being the big bro of these two k.

Awww. Makes me feel bad about Krem in my current game... So not worth it.