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Yeah, Cole needs Evade set to priority and the same for combat roll w/ Iron Bull. Then just stack up on regen potions and abuse the OP static cage.

 

The reason I don't feel the need for double barrier is because if played well Cass almost never loses aggro in this game and the AI knows how to use shield wall.



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@Veeia

I'll agree with that, there are a ton of different ways to play this game on nightmare. You can even make 2h warriors work on nightmare. It just a matter of how much effort you want to put in while playing.

Figured I would add my own observations on my preferred rogues.

- A properly built melee rogue in the hands of someone who knows how to play one is still a monster.
Archer is the safer option though and is still a capable damage dealer.

- Artificer is the most underrated spec in the entire game and by far the most versatile rogue spec.
The traps are useful but it's Opportunity Knocks and Looked Like It Hurt from the Sabotage tree that make the Artificer capable of clearing mobs and bosses alike.

- Even without the Flask of Fire exploit, Tempest is still beastly.
Flask of Frost helps with survival, Flask of Lightning turns you into a machine gun (but only if they switch to someone else) and Flask of Fire is broken.
A Tempest Inquisitor has the fastest recorded dragon kill.

- While nowhere near Rogue Hawke level craziness, the Assassin is still a heavy hitter.
Does require a little more patience to use though since it's all about the passives.

- An Artificer archer, Varric, Sera and Solas are capable of killing everything before it gets in range to cause damage.
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I agree with all your points Duelist_76. Go find Varric his Bianca upgrades and enjoy the ownage!



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I agree with all your points Duelist_76. Go find Varric his Bianca upgrades and enjoy the ownage!

Thanks to Sera being a monster in dragon fights I think Varric got overlooked but the dwarf can still hold his own.
And those damn mines are addictive as hell.

I completely agree with you on Full Draw too but I would go so far as to call it dubious on anything other than an Assassin.
Artificers are best ignoring it completely since mines and upgraded Leaping Shot are it's bread and butter while for a Tempest...maybe.

Granted, there are many ways to skin a cat so to speak.
You like two mages, whereas I prefer a second rogue with me and others like taking two warriors.
If it works for you, who cares right?

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Granted, there are many ways to skin a cat so to speak.
You like two mages, whereas I prefer a second rogue with me and others like taking two warriors.
If it works for you, who cares right?

 

Actually, I'm going back and forth on having two mages or two rogues. lol

 

The only absolute for me is always having Cass in the party. The best tank thanks to the burst damage and utility of templar. I'll take another dispel, yes please! Seriously, you don't need more tankyness with the S&S tree.



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My favorite thing to do ever is take a party of three mages with Dispel and Cass to a Fade Rift. Like taking candy from a very ugly, possessed baby. 


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Oh, I just killed the pride did on nightmare with a human mage. Thats the second time I did that, the first was with my 2h Qunari. lol Normally I have to seal the fade rifts enough times till the mission ends. lol



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- Artificer is the most underrated spec in the entire game and by far the most versatile rogue spec.
The traps are useful but it's Opportunity Knocks and Looked Like It Hurt from the Sabotage tree that make the Artificer capable of clearing mobs and bosses alike.


I agree with everything in this bullet point except for the word "underrated". All the good players know how ridiculous Artificer is once you combine its crit passives with, say, Leaping Shot. You don't even need to take its focus ability to do preposterous amounts of damage...although if you do use it, you can kill high dragons in about thirty seconds.

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Actually, I'm going back and forth on having two mages or two rogues. lol

The only absolute for me is always having Cass in the party. The best tank thanks to the burst damage and utility of templar. I'll take another dispel, yes please! Seriously, you don't need more tankyness with the S&S tree.


I like Cass and her Templar skills too, another criminally underrated spec IMO.

Solas draws them all in with Pull of the Abyss, I put them to sleep with Knockout Bomb, Cass follows with Spell Purge and then me and Varric or Sera start murdering everything.

Never did like two warriors though, nothing ever feels like it dies fast enough.

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What is with me and constantly starting new characters. LOL. The intro to this game is well done I guess. lol


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Never did like two warriors though, nothing ever feels like it dies fast enough.

 

Have you used Iron Bull to whirlwind inside of static cage. Hilarious.



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I agree with everything in this bullet point except for the word "underrated". All the good players know how ridiculous Artificer is once you combine its crit passives with, say, Leaping Shot. You don't even need to take its focus ability to do preposterous amounts of damage...although if you do use it, you can kill high dragons in about thirty seconds.


Rogue player I take it?

I agree with you BTW. Mostly I'm just overly attached to those mines.

EXPLODE ALL THE THINGS!!!

Works well with Sera while she does her machine gun thing during Flask of Lightning too.

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I just started a new character too, but it's a rush game because I want to see if I can punch Solas, pump up his approval and then trigger his romance and then resume being a jerk he hates until the end romance scene where I'll be a jerk back (god I hope you can be angry and mean there) instead of sadface Lavellan.

 

...you know, the important things. 

 

It's amazing how switching back to casual is, haha, and how fast you can rush the game if you try. I already have Viv, Sera, and Blackwall recruited, will get to Champions of the Just before I go to bed probably. I started this 2 hours ago. 


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Have you used Iron Bull to whirlwind inside of static cage. Hilarious.


I have actually. Good times.

Still prefer all the pretty colours from exploding mines though.

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Lol, discussion regarding combat: I just hit everything with as many blades as I can carry until it dies.

 

...Which is why I play on casual. :P



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Lol, discussion regarding combat: I just hit everything with as many blades as I can carry until it dies.

 

...Which is why I play on casual. :P

 

If anyone asks, tell them you're doing it on nightmare and that you are in the top 10 in all the universe.


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Ahhhh! Just got to pull pranks with Sera. Man that was fun! <3

 

Why did I ever dislike her so much before? Soo grateful I entered this thread, y'all converted me!


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If anyone asks, tell them you're doing it on nightmare and that you are in the top 10 in all the universe.

 

Lol, that's right.

 

Who me? I'm just a  really good marksman with spinning blades. Keep playing, you'll get it. *snicker*


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I love the cutscene where the Inquisition is officially formed. The music is perfect. I love seeing all the soldiers line up. In fact, I love how Haven greets you as a hero upon waking up. The intro to this game is far better than skyrim's.


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Ahhhh! Just got to pull pranks with Sera. Man that was fun! <3

Why did I ever dislike her so much before? Soo grateful I entered this thread, y'all converted me!

So you're officially one of us now, huh?

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So you're officially one of us now, huh?

Spoiler

 

Haha, pretty much.

 

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Though I still have a hard time understanding her sometimes! I really have to think before making choices...



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Welcome to the friends of Red Jenny.


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If anyone asks, tell them you're doing it on nightmare and that you are in the top 10 in all the universe.


"Remember my super cool BIANCA? My BIANCA is different from other BIANCA. It's like my BIANCA is in the top percentage of BIANCA!"

shut up youngster varric stop calling me

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;)Speaking of starting with new characters... I've started a male dwarf archer. Something different to my usual choices, which is either warrior (sword and shield) or mage. Couldn't really get into two-handed. Made him a follower of Andraste, he thinks he's "chosen". :lol: Now let's see how long I actually last before I delete and start again... for the 500th time.

 

I'm actually loving the archer, wish I'd tried it sooner. Plus having underworld knowledge from the get go makes me feel like a bad-arse for some reason... This time around, I'm going to do everything different. I've already sided and allied with the Templars, usually I'd enslave them to impress Sera. ;) Not so much for approval, more for the fact that I like to have her pleased with me. What can I say, I was/am whipped.

 

I thought about not even recruiting Sera so I wouldn't have to go through the torture of looking at that gorgeous face/body of hers and not be able to, you know... but I love those bees too much, so she's in.

 

Just for kicks, I recruit her then go talk to her in that tavern in Haven. This is what happens when I attempt to pull the moves on her, as a male:

 

Sera: I think I'll like you, "Lord Herald". Maybe you are a little "chosen", yeah?"

Inquisitor: I think I'll like having you around, Sera. I hope you'll feel the same way.

Sera: Pfft. Not even!

 

Burn! :lol: Btw, those pick up lines make me cringe. Never in my right mind would I pull moves like that... but anyway.

 

Think I'm going to have to romance Cass. Between her and Josie she is much more appealing. Josie doesn't do anything for me, she's alright for a politician I suppose... but Cass has an interesting personality. I'll invite her up to my quarters, light some candles and.... read a few chapters of "Swords and Shields" to her, cause I'm romantic like that. ;) 

 

I'll just have to admire the beauty of Sera from afar.

 

I thought being a different kind of character would let me connect with Solas, but I was wrong. He hates me... again. So looks like I'll have to biff him one... again. Never gets old. ;) 


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I love the cutscene where the Inquisition is officially formed. The music is perfect. I love seeing all the soldiers line up. In fact, I love how Haven greets you as a hero upon waking up. The intro to this game is far better than skyrim's.

 

I adore everything from In Your Heart Shall Burn until after getting skyhold. Best bloody cutscene ever!!