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[introverted_assassin]

which writer is a poc? i literally don't keep up with these things...at least not in the gaming world. Actually, i feel like we don't exist out there(in gaming) but I KNOW that's not true.

the best way to get the perspective of us is to get the perspective from us. This is why I'm asking this question because if none of them are poc, how can they ever know our perspective? Second hand isn't great all the time and there are a lot of things that need to be considered and you SHOULD be culturally sensitive about if you take the helm of writing about us...eh.

[YourFunnyUncle]

I've said it before that I wish those three words were never used but they were and I'm sure that BioWare knows by now that some people were hurt by it. I noticed in the tumbler reply that has been discussed that DG did not comment about the transphobic reference in his reply, they know by now I'm sure the message has been received.

I know those three words can hurt but I won't dwell on it. I worry and hurt for the people who aren't as lucky as I was and can't afford too stop their pain. So many suffer due to the inability to pay for treatment, that makes me sad.

I've had a difficult time since Christmas as I was reading with my 6 year old niece and it was wonderful, especially when she called me auntie Dani. Unfortunately my sister in law overheard it and told her that I'm her uncle, she told her it wasn't true but my sister in law repeated it again. I kept quite but the hurt doesn't stop. I've been legally female for seven years and my brother and his wife still won't accept me.

I will never see my family in a setting like that ever again as I cannot let my brother and sister in law screw with my nieces head anymore than they already have. I can't go through that hurt ever again.

So yeah, I can't get too worked up over what Sera said. Life is much crueler.

Awww... Danielle. That's so awful. I'm actually welling up. I feel so sorry for you and angry at your family for being so insensitive. I hope that in time you can build a good relationship with your niece.

[Artemis Leonhart]

How do people feel about the ending to Sera's romance?

She called me "honey tongue", I'd say that it was a pretty good ending.

 

I've said it before that I wish those three words were never used but they were and I'm sure that BioWare knows by now that some people were hurt by it. I noticed in the tumbler reply that has been discussed that DG did not comment about the transphobic reference in his reply, they know by now I'm sure the message has been received.

I know those three words can hurt but I won't dwell on it. I worry and hurt for the people who aren't as lucky as I was and can't afford too stop their pain. So many suffer due to the inability to pay for treatment, that makes me sad.

I've had a difficult time since Christmas as I was reading with my 6 year old niece and it was wonderful, especially when she called me auntie Dani. Unfortunately my sister in law overheard it and told her that I'm her uncle, she told her it wasn't true but my sister in law repeated it again. I kept quite but the hurt doesn't stop. I've been legally female for seven years and my brother and his wife still won't accept me.

I will never see my family in a setting like that ever again as I cannot let my brother and sister in law screw with my nieces head anymore than they already have. I can't go through that hurt ever again.

So yeah, I can't get too worked up over what Sera said. Life is much crueler.

*Bear hug*

[Roamingmachine]

I've said it before that I wish those three words were never used but they were and I'm sure that BioWare knows by now that some people were hurt by it. I noticed in the tumbler reply that has been discussed that DG did not comment about the transphobic reference in his reply, they know by now I'm sure the message has been received.

I know those three words can hurt but I won't dwell on it. I worry and hurt for the people who aren't as lucky as I was and can't afford too stop their pain. So many suffer due to the inability to pay for treatment, that makes me sad.

I've had a difficult time since Christmas as I was reading with my 6 year old niece and it was wonderful, especially when she called me auntie Dani. Unfortunately my sister in law overheard it and told her that I'm her uncle, she told her it wasn't true but my sister in law repeated it again. I kept quite but the hurt doesn't stop. I've been legally female for seven years and my brother and his wife still won't accept me.

I will never see my family in a setting like that ever again as I cannot let my brother and sister in law screw with my nieces head anymore than they already have. I can't go through that hurt ever again.

So yeah, I can't get too worked up over what Sera said. Life is much crueler.

Gods...to not say anything at that moment. You have the patience of a saint. I'm sorry you had to go through this, but at least your niece is already wiser at age 6 than her mother. Even if her mother might never get past her ignorant hate, you already know that your niece loves her auntie

[LightningPoodle]

 

-snip-

 

Tell you're family how you feel. People like that are ignorant, and ignorance is like a genetic trait, it will pass on to your niece if something isn't done. Life is cruel, but you have an opportunity to try and make it better. Tell them how you feel, how it hurts when they still call you a man, and if they still cannot accept who you are, cut ties with them. You are a grown woman, an amazing person and you shouldn't have to take that from family. Family is supposed to be there for you, through thick and thin and when they don't do that, well, they aren't much of a family.

[Artemis Leonhart]

Tell you're family how you feel. People like that are ignorant, and ignorance is like a genetic trait, it will pass on to your niece if something isn't done. Life is cruel, but you have an opportunity to try and make it better. Tell them how you feel, how it hurts when they still call you a man, and if they still cannot accept who you are, cut ties with them. You are a grown woman, an amazing person and you shouldn't have to take that from family. Family is supposed to be there for you, through thick and thin and when they don't do that, well, they aren't much of a family.

You expressed exactly what I wanted to and wasn't able to put into words, too many feelings are making me useless at expressing myself in written form. Thank you, Poodle.

[veeia]

Hugs, Dani. That's horrible.

My position on this the comment hasn't changed: it was a bad line, it shouldn't be there, but it doesn't automatically make Sera a terrible character or Lukas the worst and the argument devolving into HOW DARE on both sides is incredibly wearying even as I have sympathy for most perspectives.

Re: Sera being easily bootable. Still uncomfortable with that. I try to be charitable and imagine it was a later, rushed job when they realized she was one of the few who didn't leave and had no plot reason to do so? But yeah, I am still bah on that. I wonder if a lot of people's problems with her might have changed if they had been forced to keep her around long enough to get a better idea of who she is instead of being able to boot her immediately, shrug.

[Basement Cat]

@Dani

 

I'm so sorry you had to put up with that, and at Christmas too!

 

Have a hug!

[CrimsonN7]

How do people feel about the ending to Sera's romance?

 

Got a new nickname, honey tongue till creepy went and ruined it. Buckles it is then.

 

Actually that scene I really enjoyed it, a love confession whilst having a breakdown of sorts, it was sweet and weirdly amusing.

 

edit: So sorry to hear about that rotten experience at Xmas Dani, I don't really know what to say. 

[YourFunnyUncle]

which writer is a poc? i literally don't keep up with these things...at least not in the gaming world. Actually, i feel like we don't exist out there(in gaming) but I KNOW that's not true.

the best way to get the perspective of us is to get the perspective from us. This is why I'm asking this question because if none of them are poc, how can they ever know our perspective? Second hand isn't great all the time and there are a lot of things that need to be considered and you SHOULD be culturally sensitive about if you take the helm of writing about us...eh.

 

Here's a serious question: Is the perspective of a POC more relevant to Vivienne or Sera? Vivienne may look outwardly like you, but in terms of Dragon Age lore, the elves of Thedas seem to me to have much more in common with modern day racial minorities in the US (both of African and Native American descent) than any human. How do you pick that apart?

[LightningPoodle]

Here's a serious question: Is the perspective of a POC more relevant to Vivienne or Sera? Vivienne may look outwardly like you, but in terms of Dragon Age lore, the elves of Thedas seem to me to have much more in common with modern day racial minorities in the US (both of African and Native American descent) than any human. How do you pick that apart?

 

What is "POC"?

[WildOrchid]

How do people feel about the ending to Sera's romance?

 

Kinda bummed we didn't get to hug each other in the end of the game. The rest got hand holding, hug from the back and even hug around waist.

But quizzy and Sera just stand there.

 

It's like Shepard and Liara all over again, where dudeshep gets a scene with Liara resting her head on his shoulder but not to fShep.

Lesbians do love hugs, you know.

[WildOrchid]

What is "POC"?

 

Person of color. Or people of color.

[Basement Cat]

What is "POC"?

'Person of color'

by Orchid. For once.

[LightningPoodle]

Person of color. Or people of color.

 

No, I don't like that. I don't like that term.

[WildOrchid]

I've had a difficult time since Christmas as I was reading with my 6 year old niece and it was wonderful, especially when she called me auntie Dani. Unfortunately my sister in law overheard it and told her that I'm her uncle, she told her it wasn't true but my sister in law repeated it again. I kept quite but the hurt doesn't stop. I've been legally female for seven years and my brother and his wife still won't accept me.

 

Ugh, i'm so sorry to hear this.

There's nothing worse than your own family not accepting you.

[CrimsonN7]

Kinda bummed we didn't get to hug each other in the end of the game. The rest got hand holding, hug from the back and even hug around waist.

But quizzy and Sera just stand there.

 

It's like Shepard and Liara all over again, where dudeshep gets a scene with Liara resting her head on his shoulder but not to fShep.

Lesbians do love hugs, you know.

 

Does Josie give hugs? I'm getting ready to head to the Arbor Wilds, soon I shall have a new playthrough where I can elf it up again, mage babby!

[WildOrchid]

Does Josie give hugs? I'm getting ready to head to the Arbor Wilds, soon I shall have a new playthrough where I can elf it up again, mage babby!

 

No idea... maybe someone who romanced Josie can tell you.

I wanted Sera to hug my tall lady dammit.

[Artemis Leonhart]

Kinda bummed we didn't get to hug each other in the end of the game. The rest got hand holding, hug from the back and even hug around waist.

But quizzy and Sera just stand there.

 

It's like Shepard and Liara all over again, where dudeshep gets a scene with Liara resting her head on his shoulder but not to fShep.

Lesbians do love hugs, you know.

What, so other romances get hugs and whatnot? I thought everyone just stood there...well, now I'm sad.

[introverted_assassin]

No, I don't like that. I don't like that term.

why? there was a time when we were referred to as "colored". poc is an inclusive term meant to express solidarity between all people of color everywhere. I can't object to the idea of that.

[veeia]

Here's a serious question: Is the perspective of a POC more relevant to Vivienne or Sera? Vivienne may look outwardly like you, but in terms of Dragon Age lore, the elves of Thedas seem to me to have much more in common with modern day racial minorities in the US (both of African and Native American descent) than any human. How do you pick that apart?

Can't speak for Kasumi, but the criticism I've seen is equally leveled at treatment of characters who are PoC and characters who are coded as PoC (ie elves) through the narrative. Both are relevant to talk about in context of that.

[CrimsonN7]

No idea... maybe someone who romanced Josie can tell you.

I wanted Sera to hug my tall lady dammit.

 

Welp that end scene back at Skyhold Sera looked pretty set on getting her rocks off, pushed through the door if I recall. *fade to black fill in the blanks* Pretty dom that one.