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#48701
LightningPoodle

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Is that euph- oh right, that dragon.

 

You're pic is giving me the creeps... I do hope that isn't insulting.  :unsure:



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You're pic is giving me the creeps... I do hope that isn't insulting.  :unsure:

 

I guess that would depend on why. I'm not entirely happy with it, probably change back at some point.



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I like this theory that Sera is the vessel of Andruil.  I was hoping the elven god myths would turn out to be significant and that has happened. Having Sera be one more character connected to an elven god would have some very interesting implications. Perhaps there are more people in Thedas walking around with the remnants of gods within them?



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I guess that would depend on why. I'm not entirely happy with it, probably change back at some point.

 

Who is it?



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Sorry about the length, got a little carried away and I'm really bad at editing! :pinched:


Oh hey! Glad to find the people behind the awesome theory :D It puts Solas's interactions with Sera in a whole new light too. "You are the furthest of what we were meant to be" and all that. That "we" gets a whole new ring to it.

Anyway, happy new year folks!

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#48706
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Anyway, happy new year folks!
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You do like your wolves don't you? I don't suppose you own a husky?



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You do like your wolves don't you? I don't suppose you own a husky?


The wolf is my totem. But I dislike dogs. Too...servile.

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I like this theory that Sera is the vessel of Andruil.  I was hoping the elven god myths would turn out to be significant and that has happened. Having Sera be one more character connected to an elven god would have some very interesting implications. Perhaps there are more people in Thedas walking around with the remnants of gods within them?

 

Sera being the vessel for Andruil would be deliciously blasphemous. Watching her dealing with flocks of Dalish worshipers asking for her blessing would be worth the DLC  alone.   


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Who is it?

 

Same as before. Lydia Litviak, she's the highest scoring female fighter pilot. Fought for the Soviets during the Second World War,  disappeared fighting 109s in 1943. She liked flowers.


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#48710
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The wolf is my totem. But I dislike dogs. Too...servile.

 

Totem? So do you have a sort of "pagan" belief?



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Same as before. Lydia Litviak, she's the highest scoring female fighter pilot. Fought for the Soviets during the Second World War,  disappeared fighting 109s in 1943. She liked flowers.

 

Oh, sorry. I thought it was a man... Sorry.  :(



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Totem? So do you have a sort of "pagan" belief?


The old gods of the finns. There's a reason I like the Dalish and Avvar ;)

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Hello everyone. Happy New Year in 4 Minutes!

Considering creating my first ever dwarf as a 5th playthough to romance Blackwall. Thoughts?


Cadash/Blackwall gets a big recommendation from me!!! :)
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The old gods of the finns. There's a reason I like the Dalish and Avvar ;)

 

That's cool. So, does the wolf mean anything?



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I like this theory that Sera is the vessel of Andruil. I was hoping the elven god myths would turn out to be significant and that has happened. Having Sera be one more character connected to an elven god would have some very interesting implications. Perhaps there are more people in Thedas walking around with the remnants of gods within them?

That would be interesting.

I think I am just wary to this, because my big fandom about 5 years ago (for like 10 years lmao, I dig in and stay) was ASOIAF, and once he introduced one Secret Targaryen, suddenly EVERYONE was, according to the fandom. It was never enough for a character to be interesting in their own right, what if they were secretly of the blood of the dragon riders!!! And then rode dragons!!!!

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That would be interesting.

I think I am just wary to this, because my big fandom about 5 years ago (for like 10 years lmao, I dig in and stay) was ASOIAF, and once he introduced one Secret Targaryen, suddenly EVERYONE was, according to the fandom. It was never enough for a character to be interesting in their own right, what if they were secretly of the blood of the dragon riders!!! And then rode dragons!!!!

 

Spoilers for Winds of Winter incoming. 

 

Jon Snow is totally a Targaryen. He even rides Drogo by the end of the book. 

 

Believe it. 



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That's cool. So, does the wolf mean anything?


In the religion, nothing in particular.The wolf is simply a personal totem for me, a spirit animal I have an affinity with. The personal meaning...well, perhaps something like this: Neither with raw strength nor by cunning, but with wisdom to know when its time for either and skill to use both.

#48718
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In the religion, nothing in particular.The wolf is simply a personal totem for me, a spirit animal I have an affinity with. The personal meaning...well, perhaps something like this: Neither with raw strength nor by cunning, but with wisdom to know when its time for either and skill to use both.

 

So did you choose it as your spirit animal or was it assigned at like birth dependant on what month/year you were born?



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But you don't ask Sera to do that. Se asks you, she gives you the ultimatum, you don't give it to her. Yes she may feel she has no choice, that you even believing your beliefs threatens hers...but that doesn't make it okay for her to do that, and it does not mean that you are asking her to set aside her beliefs.


That is exactly what you are doing if you insist that a religion that has no place for her and says she and her beliefs are nothing is true. She tells you that if the belief in the Old gods and belief in the Maker are mutually incompatible, so if you press the matter by arguing that the Old gods are true then you are telling her to set aside her beliefs, not asking. Which is why, if you want to play a devout Dalish, you should romance someone else whose beliefs are compatible.

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I'm now feeling "Aslathiss narseveran josefina dar kazraad serafin", which roughly translated means "the feeling of regret at the 80-hour mark at having romanced Josephine instead of Sera".
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#48721
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Couldn't the same be said about a devout Dalish Inquisitor? From her perspective, the Dalish Gods are the accepting ones while the Maker/Chantry never will see her as worthy because she's an elf.


The Dalish gods only accept elves, whereas Brother Burkel's quest in DAO shows us that the Chantry accepts Dwarves and Sera being an Andrastian shows us that at least one Chantry accepted at least one Elf.

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Who is the person who gives that lousy ultimatum in that scene??? I don't know why you're purposely ignoring facts here. Sera doesn't allow a devout elven Inquisitor to stay in the romance AND hold onto their values, it is either submit to my views on this or I'm dumping you.


A devout follower of the Old gods is telling Sera that she has to accept beliefs which have no place for and put no value upon her as equally valid to the beliefs that do have a place for and do put value upon her if you press the matter in the post-Well scene. That is the fact that you keep choosing to ignore.

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I'm now feeling "Aslathiss narseveran josefina dar kazraad serafin", which roughly translated means "the feeling of regret at the 80-hour mark at having romanced Josephine instead of Sera".

 

Josie isn't that bad. Some would call her boring, but at least she doesn't have bunch of awkward childhood baggage like Sera does. 



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The city elves, which are most elves, are devout Andrastian. So the chantry is open to followers of all races, but only humans can be clergy and only females can obtain ranks higher than brother/sister. Unless you make Leliana Divine, in which case she opens the chantry clergy positions to all races and genders. As it should be, the chantry can finally practice what they preach.



#48725
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So did you choose it as your spirit animal or was it assigned at like birth dependant on what month/year you were born?


Spirit animals can't be chosen nor assigned. You can go "look for them",vision quests and so forth (terms and methods vary but the purpose is the same), but ultimately they choose you based on who you are inside. This is, of course, my personal belief and experience on the matter so your answer may vary depending on who you ask :P