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A devout follower of the Old gods is telling Sera that she has to accept beliefs which have no place for and put no value upon her as equally valid to the beliefs that do have a place for and do put value upon her if you press the matter in the post-Well scene. That is the fact that you keep choosing to ignore.


That devout follower of the old gods doesn't even raise the topic. Sera does. By directly attacking the inquisitors faith no less. The only thing Sera ever needs to accept in that scene is the fact that people have different beliefs. The inquisitor isn't asking Sera to believe anything, just to let her have her own beliefs. Which is apparently too much to ask. But then again she's only really looking for something to keep her own world and identity from crumbling at that moment, not really interested in any theological debate or truth. She just needs a hug at that moment. Too bad her tongue is faster than her brain >.<
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#48727
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Spirit animals can't be chosen nor assigned. You can go "look for them",vision quests and so forth (terms and methods vary but the purpose is the same), but ultimately they choose you based on who you are inside. This is, of course, my personal belief and experience on the matter so your answer may vary depending on who you ask :P

 

So would you say you have a more, instinctive mind.  :huh:

 

And what entails a "vision quest"? Something like a dream or can you get high?  :unsure:



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That devout follower of the old gods doesn't even raise the topic. Sera does. By directly attacking the inquisitors faith no less. The only thing Sera ever needs to accept in that scene is the fact that people have different beliefs. The inquisitor isn't asking Sera to believe anything, just to let her have her own beliefs. Which is apparently too much to ask. But then again she's only really looking for something to keep her own world and identity from crumbling at that moment, not really interested in any theological debate or truth. She just needs a hug at that moment. Too bad her tongue is faster than her brain >.<

 

Yeah tbh, in that scene i just wanted to hug her. I wanted the elf quzzy to hug her, comfort her that she's not "like other dalish" Sera fears and that her religion won't be mentioned and and.... gaah, kinda wish there was a middle something in that dialogue. :/


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#48729
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So would you say you have a more, instinctive mind.  :huh:
 
And what entails a "vision quest"? Something like a dream or can you get high?  :unsure:


http://en.wikipedia....ki/Vision_quest
That's the native American way, but it gives some hints on what one of them might entail. I use the term 'vision quest' loosely mind you, since no other term fits. It's kinda hard to explain, but the objective is to have one foot in the spirit world and the other in the mundane in order to have the two worlds meet. Some cultures/individuals would use drugs to achieve it but I don't see the need.

As to being more instinctive....Perhaps. How would I go about comparing something like that, though?

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http://en.wikipedia....ki/Vision_quest
That's the native American way, but it gives some hints on what one of them might entail. I use the term 'vision quest' loosely mind you, since no other term fits. It's kinda hard to explain, but the objective is to have one foot in the spirit world and the other in the mundane in order to have the two worlds meet. Some cultures/individuals would use drugs to achieve it but I don't see the need.

As to being more instinctive....Perhaps. How would I go about comparing something like that, though?

 

Trusting instinct rather than rational thinking? I don't know. Perhaps just following your gut more than anything.



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Trusting instinct rather than rational thinking? I don't know. Perhaps just following your gut more than anything.

 

It got Commander Chakotay through pretty rough patches in space.



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It got Commander Chakotay through pretty rough patches in space.

 

I'm not really a trekkie. More of a Star Wars fan myself.  :P


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I'm not really a trekkie. More of a Star Wars fan myself.  :P

 

Well you should trust your feelings then.



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It got Commander Chakotay through pretty rough patches in space.

 

Your avi, dawww.



#48735
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It got Commander Chakotay through pretty rough patches in space.

 

He surely would need them since he has Captain " I'll let us all die just to follow the prime directive" Janeway as a leader. 



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Trusting instinct rather than rational thinking? I don't know. Perhaps just following your gut more than anything.


Oh that. I always trust my instincts.

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That settles it.

She's the goddess of hunting, dragons at least. :P

 

I agree. Handed me two dragons on a silver plate. On Nightmare. Handed me a bunch of guys 5 levels higher than myself before that. The girl's just the meanest person in the Valley of Death.

 

Hmm... What was I just saying? Oh yes. It's 4am so I really should be sleeping. That was it. That's what I was saying.

 

Fear not, I ditched at 3AM because I felt bad already.

 

Same as before. Lydia Litviak, she's the highest scoring female fighter pilot. Fought for the Soviets during the Second World War,  disappeared fighting 109s in 1943. She liked flowers.

 

MIA in 1943? Over German lines, I assume? Well, equal possibilities amnesia post-crash landing, and getting executed by the Wehrmacht.

I doubt such a legend wouldn't make it back if she survived and was in one piece.

 

Or I'm completely wrong, who knows!

 

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Vision_quest
That's the native American way, but it gives some hints on what one of them might entail. I use the term 'vision quest' loosely mind you, since no other term fits. It's kinda hard to explain, but the objective is to have one foot in the spirit world and the other in the mundane in order to have the two worlds meet. Some cultures/individuals would use drugs to achieve it but I don't see the need.

As to being more instinctive....Perhaps. How would I go about comparing something like that, though?

 

That sounds about as strange as...

No, people alrady think I'm weird as it is.

This... IS real life you're talking here, right.

(No, sorry, really not sharing what's happening around me, not interested in being locked up in a room with padded walls and everything.)



#48738
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I'm not really a trekkie. More of a Star Wars fan myself. :P

I'd ask you to turn off your targeting computer but then maybe you wouldn't be able to access the forums...

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I'd ask you to turn off your targeting computer but then maybe you wouldn't be able to access the forums...

 

Wow, how are you up so early? It's got to be, what, twelve in UK?

I got stuff to practice, it seems!



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Wow, how are you up so early? It's got to be, what, twelve in UK?
I got stuff to practice, it seems!

Ha! Was up late last night for sure. Seven hours sleep is enough though.

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I got about nine, then I woke up on my own.

 

Besides, I totally approve of staying up late. I prefer it when everyone sleeps and I can play in the dark. I find it easiest to get into the game that way. Uninterrupted, the monitor the only source of light...

(You can probably imagine how my eyes will look in ten or twenty years...)



#48742
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Oh I'm a night owl too, but working means that it can only manifest during holidays and to a lesser extent weekends.
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And so we've just completed a journey of 940 million kilometers around a nuclear fireball 150 million kilometers away.

 

HAPPY NEW YEAR, LOVELIES!


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#48744
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I got about nine, then I woke up on my own.

 

Besides, I totally approve of staying up late. I prefer it when everyone sleeps and I can play in the dark. I find it easiest to get into the game that way. Uninterrupted, the monitor the only source of light...

(You can probably imagine how my eyes will look in ten or twenty years...)

 

My eyes have already degraded because of doing that, and I'm 19. In 20 years, I'll probably be blind.


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So... If you don't have Dagna's magical remote-control rune of doom at Mythal, what happens in the Sampson fight?



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MIA in 1943? Over German lines, I assume? Well, equal possibilities amnesia post-crash landing, and getting executed by the Wehrmacht.

I doubt such a legend wouldn't make it back if she survived and was in one piece.

 

She's considered killed in action now, they found a body decades later that is believed to be hers.

 

I'd ask you to turn off your targeting computer but then maybe you wouldn't be able to access the forums...

 

As an uncle shouldn't you be telling everyone to stick around for the harvest?

 

 

And so we've just completed a journey of 940 million kilometers around a nuclear fireball 150 million kilometers away.

 

Man, that makes it sound way cooler.

 

 

So... If you don't have Dagna's magical remote-control rune of doom at Mythal, what happens in the Sampson fight?

 

Dagna's what? I think you just give him the regular boss fight smack down, it's been a while.


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#48747
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As an uncle shouldn't you be telling everyone to stick around for the harvest?

 

Not if it means I'm about to get turned into a charred skeletal corpse...



#48748
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Dagna's what? I think you just give him the regular boss fight smack down, it's been a while.

If you do Cullen's quest line, you end up with a rune that can turn off the magic in Samson's armour. (Also a Sera Approves for doing it, which was good as I'd got disapproval for doing the rituals and allying with the temple elves.)



#48749
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My eyes have already degraded because of doing that, and I'm 19. In 20 years, I'll probably be blind.

 

I'm the same, my sight seems pretty sharp-ish. I mean...

Uh, should a person be able to read a license plate on a car from good thirty meters away while looking at it from above at some 60-70 degrees?

On second thought, maybe it's not that sharp.

 

If you do Cullen's quest line, you end up with a rune that can turn off the magic in Samson's armour. (Also a Sera Approves for doing it, which was good as I'd got disapproval for doing the rituals and allying with the temple elves.)

 

I wonder what happens for Calpernia.

And I failed to do the F-ya-Samson quest line in the original playthrough, so I had a standart fight.



#48750
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I wonder what happens for Calpernia.
And I failed to do the F-ya-Samson quest line in the original playthrough, so I had a standart fight.

Does he have a lot of special abilities if his armour is working? For me he had a big health bar, some sort of group stun ability and this weird thing where he gets bigger for a while...