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#48751
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Does he have a lot of special abilities if his armour is working? For me he had a big health bar, some sort of group stun ability and this weird thing where he gets bigger for a while...

 

Can't really remember... I think huge health bar, spinny-thingy, getting bigger thingy, maybe a stun?

 

Long time, really. Over a month now, I think.



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Can't really remember... I think huge health bar, spinny-thingy, getting bigger thingy, maybe a stun?
 
Long time, really. Over a month now, I think.

basically the crap he pulls in MP right
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#48753
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basically the crap he pulls in MP right

 

Yep.



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Wait, you fight Samson in MP?



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Wait, you fight Samson in MP?

 

Yes. Or someone who looks like him anyway.



#48756
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Yes. Or someone who looks like him anyway.

 

So it's probably Giles the Other Commander who happens to reuse the same appearance and attacks?



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Yeah, that's actually Samson's clone.

 

Actually, the other enemies for respective factions are Calpernia and Envy.



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Yeah, that's actually Samson's clone.

 

Actually, the other enemies for respective factions are Calpernia and Envy.

Calpernia :wub:



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Calpernia :wub:

 

Are you into gaps?



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Are you into gaps?

No.

 

I'm into hot Tevinter chicks that make me want to go with the templars every time I play this game.



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Calpernia was interesting, I wish she had a bigger role.


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Calpernia was interesting, I wish she had a bigger role.

I'm actually shocked she doesn't appear whatsoever in the mage path (not even a mention). Fiona at least fights you in Haven.



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No.

 

I'm into hot Tevinter chicks that make me want to go with the templars every time I play this game.

 

Hot? Yeah, I'd go with that, if she didn't have the gap. Never been into gaps myself.



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I'm actually shocked she doesn't appear whatsoever in the mage path (not even a mention). Fiona at least fights you in Haven.

 

Yeah. It's also strange how doing the mage path shouldn't really weaken her or the Venatori. At least I got the impression Alexius rocked up with fairly minimal troops.

 

I'm not sure the branching enemies thing was worth the cost of dividing zots between them. Interesting idea though.



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I'm not sure the branching enemies thing was worth the cost of dividing zots between them. Interesting idea though.

I was thinking the same thing. Must have been a bit of a hassle for the writers to figure it out.

 

I still don't think the execution was perfect, but it was certainly good enough.



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I still don't think the execution was perfect, but it was certainly good enough.

 

It works. It's just I look at a character I think is cool, Calpernia, and a character I don't, Samson, and think how much better Calpernia would be if they rolled Samson's resources into her. But other people like Samson, and I think branching stories are cool and there should be more of them. In the end I think I'm happier with them trying and it not being perfect than them not trying and it being better.



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Are you into gaps?

gaps can be sexy
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#48768
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I rather like the Imperial Vestment Cotton that drops in the Arbor Wilds... I used it to make a nice purposefully inappropriately named armour for Sera...

 

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#48769
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Why do I even bother with elf threads on the open boards? *sigh*

 

Anyhoo....

I miss map-based banter triggers. I have gotten IB and Solas playing mind chess but I have bare gotten a peep out of Sera this playthrough. A couple of good lines with Blackwall but that's all. The inquisition banter system is such a failure >.<



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Why do I even bother with elf threads on the open boards? *sigh*
 
Anyhoo....
I miss map-based banter triggers. I have gotten IB and Solas playing mind chess but I have bare gotten a peep out of Sera this playthrough. A couple of good lines with Blackwall but that's all. The inquisition banter system is such a failure >.<

its alroght they are dying down

#48771
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The Dalish gods only accept elves, whereas Brother Burkel's quest in DAO shows us that the Chantry accepts Dwarves and Sera being an Andrastian shows us that at least one Chantry accepted at least one Elf.

 

Lots of dwarves and elves can believe in the Maker/Andraste but that's not the same as the Chantry (as an institution) accepting them as equals (because they do not).  This is something Leliana wants to change.  Plus, Sera is an elf and would have no troubles becoming a devout Dalish if she wanted to (she would just have to believe what they require, same as with the Chantry).  

 

Sera's probably a lot like Leliana in DA:O in that she believes things about the Maker and Andraste that wouldn't be considered correct by the Chantry.   This is good enough for her and she can feel accepted for once but a lot of Chantry folk might tell her she's wrong (but Sera doesn't seem to care).  Which is interesting....if this interpretation is correct, why would Sera care that the Dalish look down on those that don't 100% adhere to their doctrine but not the Chantry?  My guess is that the Chantry does allow for more wiggle room than the Dalish.  In the Lothering Chantry, Leliana was mocked by some for her beliefs but wasn't kicked out and she seemed to have a good relationship with the Mother there.  The Dalish don't seem to be as forgiving of alternative interpretations of their religious doctrine.

 

The devout Dalish Inquisitor, on the other hand, would see things differently and still feel threatened by what the Chantry is teaching and as they are seen as an extension of their god's will, the Maker as well.  Ultimately, I can understand where Sera is coming from in that scene but I still believe she's unfair to the Dalish Inquisitor.  With a Dalish Inquisitor, the issue isn't that you are 100% in support of the Dalish gods existing since the breakup dialog happens even if you tell her that you're unsure what happened at the Mythal temple.  You want to play a more agnostic elf that picks the "I'm not sure" dialog line?  Still a problem with Sera.  She absolutely requires the Dalish Inquisitor (and only her) to say it's completely rubbish.  Even a human Inquisitor can get away with saying that they totally believe in what happened at the temple.  Regardless of Inquisitor's race, shouldn't that still be a problem with Sera?  The Inquisitor is still telling Sera that her religion (the one that is accepting her) might be false and that should be just as problematic, correct?


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Anyhoo....

I miss map-based banter triggers. I have gotten IB and Solas playing mind chess but I have bare gotten a peep out of Sera this playthrough. A couple of good lines with Blackwall but that's all. The inquisition banter system is such a failure >.<

 

I think dynamic triggers is the better goal, though it hasn't been reliable. It'd be nice if they put some forced triggers somewhere, like after resting at camp.



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Why do I even bother with elf threads on the open boards? *sigh*

 

Anyhoo....

I miss map-based banter triggers. I have gotten IB and Solas playing mind chess but I have bare gotten a peep out of Sera this playthrough. A couple of good lines with Blackwall but that's all. The inquisition banter system is such a failure >.<

 

Should go back to certain areas where you get it. I remember the bridge in Lothering - I just walked over that to get all the banter from the characters I didn't want to use.



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Why do I even bother with elf threads on the open boards? *sigh*

 

Anyhoo....

I miss map-based banter triggers. I have gotten IB and Solas playing mind chess but I have bare gotten a peep out of Sera this playthrough. A couple of good lines with Blackwall but that's all. The inquisition banter system is such a failure >.<

Not from where I'm standing. I've had loads of banter and I love how it just starts at random. Much better than the contrived metagaming of trigger points IMO.

 

I think dynamic triggers is the better goal, though it hasn't been reliable. It'd be nice if they put some forced triggers somewhere, like after resting at camp.

Well there are a few, when they relate to the scenery, such as at the storm coast. I got a specific one between Varric and Cassandra there.



#48775
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Well there are a few, when they relate to the scenery, such as at the storm coast. I got a specific one between Varric and Cassandra there.

 

I meant for the general banter so people can force fire it if they want. Well, I don't know, I like it being random and more natural, but I'd like a reliable way of getting it as well.