Well that is a separate debate, and one perhaps it is one I am wrong about. I need more data and experience with her to speak on that more generally.
Actually she can tolerate some things. For example, she can tolerate a mage inquisitor. She learned to tolerate Cole. She managed to tolerate the fade pretty well (well it needed some breakdown first
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It's elven religion the only thing she can't tolerate i think. Comes from a deep wound, it would seem.
The Dalish gods only accept elves, whereas Brother Burkel's quest in DAO shows us that the Chantry accepts Dwarves and Sera being an Andrastian shows us that at least one Chantry accepted at least one Elf.
Technically, the Creators were trapped in the Eternal City (with the known exception of one, who was apparently murdered), and the elven religion is as focused on the Elvhen as the dwarven belief system is on the dwarves. There's little reason for non-elves to follow the religion because it's focused on the elves (from a time when Thedas was Elvhenan, and before the humans landed on Par Vollen), although Feynriel did, and I'd imagine the historical Aveline did, too. Perhaps Hall, who is culturally Dalish, despite being a shemlen.
While the Chantry accepts non-humans (since their aim is to convert everyone), it also views them as being further away from the Maker because they aren't human, which is why only humans are allowed to enter the priesthood.
Sera is an Andrastian elf, and the elves in the Alienages are descended from the elves who were forced to convert to the Chantry after the fall of the Dales, so I don't imagine anyone doubts that Sera follows the Andrastian faith. I'm sure Sera's past might shed some more light on how she came to be who she is, since we only have snippets of information, including about her upbringing in the Alienage and with Lady Emmald. Sera came from Denerim, and we know about the purge, including the massacre of the orphanage; perhaps she lost people she cared about during that time.
I just replayed that scene with my second elf character, and noticed a few things. First, with my human, Sera starts off the conversation by laughing at the Dalish for being wrong. She at least doesn't do that if you are Dalish. I guess that's one good thing to say about her, lol.
Second, I'm not sure the issue with Sera is so much the belief in the Creators by itself (which is why there's no issue when the Inquisitor is non-elf). It seems to me she worries the elven Inquisitor will end up like the other "elfy elves" who care only for the past and Sera knows she will never live up to that and doesn't want to be with someone who puts a lot of themselves into it. Sera would prefer the two of you to look towards a future instead. There's no reason for her to worry that a qunari Tal Vashoth would become obsessed with lost elven glory, for example, but this is a concern with a Dalish elf.
Interesting, i thought her reaction is the same. It's like she doesn't want to hurt the dalish's feelings? Then again people said that Sera does laugh to an elf inquisitor... maybe she doesn't do that when romanced? Still, that's something i didn't know.
Also, agreed. I think i have to change what i said about her being afraid of "new gods"....sounds more like she's afraid of the elf inquisitor being too elfy like other elves.
I understand Sera's motivations. I understand why she feels she needs to make the ultimatum. It's entirely in character. It fits with her attitude towards Dalish culture and "elfy" elves throughout the game. The only point I personally was making is that it's all coming from her. She doesn't feel that she can have a relationship with someone who believes in the Dalish religion after Mythal. It's not coming from the Inquisitor. The inquisitor isn't forcing her to do anything. She may feel that way but it's her personal insecurities talking, wherever they may come from.
Another, middle ground option would have been nice sure, but am not sure it would have a different reaction from Sera. Especially when terrified, it has to be A or B with her.
Oh I doubt it would, but I think that not giving the Inquisitor the option to even attempt it was a bit of an oversight. It made the conversation seem less realistic to me.
Interesting, i thought her reaction is the same. It's like she doesn't want to hurt the dalish's feelings? Then again people said that Sera does laugh to an elf inquisitor... maybe she doesn't do that when romanced? S
I think that's during the fallout for an elf who romances Solas and has him remove her vallaslin (but then he dumps her). Sera notices that they are gone and asks about it. She finds it amusing that the Dalish were wrong about them.
Sera can be insensitive and a-holey at times but I guess she's a bit better in a romance.
lmfao, does she really?
I cannot imagine the reaction of a person who went into DA:I on their first PT wanting to romance Solas and befriend Sera as a Dalish elf. That must have been like a punch to the face every five minutes.
yeah.. its kick in the soft spotlmfao, does she really?
I cannot imagine the reaction of a person who went into DA:I on their first PT wanting to romance Solas and befriend Sera as a Dalish elf. That must have been like a punch to the face every five minutes.
Nah, I'm a finn. Just used the 'vision quest' term because it loosely fits what I was trying to explain
Drive by comment for the Sera thread: I have to say that I really, really like Sera. I thought I was going to romance Cullen first, but it just wasn't meant to be, once my IQ met Sera. She is unpretentious and flawed, and she can kill dragons without breaking a sweat (a nice bonus!) Plus, I like the fact that she contains contradictions, and has a dorky laugh. I like the fact that she talks about what upsets her and motivates her in her own words, and not like she's reading from a human resources pamphlet, to the discomfit of ideologues everywhere (even the ones on her side.) She's just...mighty real. And cute as hell. 
Laters!
Human resources EMPLOYEES.I'll have you know, some of my best friends are human resources.
of course they are "employees" * winks*Human resources EMPLOYEES.
Human resources employees.
Human resources EMPLOYEES.
Human resources employees.
I like the original post better! 
How do you justify this statement? it makes no logical sense.
You're mistaken about that. Sera is putting the Principle of contradiction and the Principle of the excluded middle into practice where the matter of the two faiths are concerned, with the logical framework she's applying is that either X (Andrastianism) or Y (the Dalish faith) is true, but that they can't both be. So since she believes that X is true, insisting that Y is true is telling her that X is false. You can choose to argue that she's wrong about which belief is false, but the logic is solid even if the conclusion she choose to draw isn't ultimately the correct one.
I don't understand this stance that Sera is the paragon of Tolerance and is the Inquisitor is who is so very terrible in this situation.
If I had ever said anything even remotely resembling "Sera is a paragon of tolerance" rather than pointing out that dismissing Sera's beliefs is itself intolerant, then that would have been a good point rather than a strawman argument.
But it's ok for a qunari, human or dwarf inquisitors to use the "I'm not sure" they're still trying to push her toward accepting that same faith right. If four people from different races say the same thing and it's acceptable from the three of the races that weren't part of the old beliefs but the one that belongs to that group it's automatically unacceptable, isn't it racist against the elf inquisitors?
Based on her dialogues and banter, humans, dwarves, and qunari have never tried to make her act like a "proper elf" the way that elves have - although in the case of humans she might have faced the same sort of racism that elves like Solas have subjected her to ("You are the farthest thing from what you were meant to be" being one of the more blatant examples of Solas doing that which I could recall).
Second, I'm not sure the issue with Sera is so much the belief in the Creators by itself (which is why there's no issue when the Inquisitor is non-elf). It seems to me she worries the elven Inquisitor will end up like the other "elfy elves" who care only for the past and Sera knows she will never live up to that and doesn't want to be with someone who puts a lot of themselves into it. Sera would prefer the two of you to look towards a future instead. There's no reason for her to worry that a qunari Tal Vashoth would become obsessed with lost elven glory, for example, but this is a concern with a Dalish elf.
That makes a LOT of sense to me.
How she acts and responds to you makes it look like it is directly a matter of belief, but then it turns out it's more complicated than that when you consider what happens with non-elves.
Though, it does make me wonder if that means she's looking for a long-term relationship with the Dalish Inquisitor. If she's seemingly more worried about who the Inquisitor will be instead of who they are right now, then that tells me she's thinking about the relationship from a broad, long-term perspective. Not something you'd normally expect from Sera, but there it is.
Second, I'm not sure the issue with Sera is so much the belief in the Creators by itself (which is why there's no issue when the Inquisitor is non-elf). It seems to me she worries the elven Inquisitor will end up like the other "elfy elves" who care only for the past and Sera knows she will never live up to that and doesn't want to be with someone who puts a lot of themselves into it. Sera would prefer the two of you to look towards a future instead. There's no reason for her to worry that a qunari Tal Vashoth would become obsessed with lost elven glory, for example, but this is a concern with a Dalish elf.
Like it says in the song, "Why change the past when you can rule this day?" Sera wants somebody who can accept her. Andraste does, so she believes in Andrastianism down to her toes, and if a Dalish Inquisitor declares an adherence to the elven gods during the post-Well scene, it comes across to her as gods that are at best false and at worst demons being more important to the woman she loves than she is, and not being willing to accept that sort of rejection.
The Dalish Inquisitor just declared adherence to worshiping false idols that kept the elves as pet slaves. I'd have the same react as Sera does.
The Dalish Inquisitor just declared adherence to worshiping false idols that kept the elves as pet slaves. I'd have the same react as Sera does.
I don't recall Solas saying that all the Creators forced the elves into servitude. In fact, Flemeth tells Merrill not to kneel before her.
I wonder if Sera will find a purpose after the Inquisition.
Red Jenny can't last forever.
In one of my playthrough, Sera is a sister/good friend to the Inquisitor, Inky welcomed Sera to stay with the Inquisition after the main plot, and said something like "we are a family now". Sera said "Shut it, you, I cry, I'm punching everyone"
Sera is glad that she found a place/family to be a part of
A dominant religion doesn't necessarily have to assimilate others. The Romans, for example, didn't care what their conquered subjects believed, as long as they paid their taxes. It was only in the late empire that religious persecutions took place, generally against Christians. Conversely, a minority religion can certainly have a proselytizing mindset -- you might say that's how they go from being a minority to a majority faith in the first place.
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