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#49376
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Speak for yourself. I'm 40 next March and I have loads of good memories of my childhood.

Not that I'd want to go back. Pertinent to this thread the gay rights situation was much much worse in my country, for example, as I was reminded when I watched the film Pride last year...

 

Is that a good movie? I saw the adverts and knew it was based off of an actual event but I didn't know whether I wanted to see it.



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Is that a good movie? I saw the adverts and knew it was based off of an actual event but I didn't know whether I wanted to see it.

I really enjoyed it and as far as I could tell from reading a bit of the history afterwards it was as close to the actual events as such movies tend to get. Powerful but funny too. Definitely worth a watch I'd say.

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Yeah, but... Canada. And I barely know anything about the country.

For all I know, everyone in Canada has some traces of French in their speech - accent and such - and, uh... No, I didn't hear any. I'm just surprised.

Most of Canada speaks English. You have a few French communities scattered in the provinces and territories, but most French speakers are in Quebec, Ontario and the Maritime Provinces (the Acadie region). 

 

Some people blend the two languages but the result is... hard to understand sometimes. :D

 

I'm curious why you would expect me to speak French while reading the fic?



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I really enjoyed it and as far as I could tell from reading a bit of the history afterwards it was as close to the actual events as such movies tend to get. Powerful but funny too. Definitely worth a watch I'd say.

 

Perhaps I will give it a watch some time in the near future then. 



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Most of Canada speaks English. You have a few French communities scattered in the provinces and territories, but most French speakers are in Quebec, Ontario and the Maritime Provinces (the Acadie region). 

 

Some people blend the two languages but the result is... hard to understand sometimes. :D

 

I'm curious why you would expect me to speak French while reading the fic?

 

Alriiight.

Oh, blending languages. There's a similar thing happening around the Polish border. Can't understand a damn thing in that direction.

Uh, I expected traces, such as accent, pronunciation, such things. Not really speaking French.



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Alriiight.

Oh, blending languages. There's a similar thing happening around the Polish border. Can't understand a damn thing in that direction.

Uh, I expected traces, such as accent, pronunciation, such things. Not really speaking French.

My English is good? I do have an accent, but it's mild compared to some.



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My English is good?

 

Yup, pretty damn good.

 

Wait, I'm being an ass. I think. By starting the conversation.



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Yup, pretty damn good.

 

Wait, I'm being an ass. I think. By starting the conversation.

You expected me to have a stronger accent? (not feeling offended or anything. Just confused at this point.)



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You expected me to have a stronger accent? (not feeling offended or anything. Just confused at this point.)

 

...yeah...?

 

Don't take it wrong, though. Strong accents are equally awesome as others.


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My English is good? I do have an accent, but it's mild compared to some.

Just listened. You kind of remind me a little of Corinne Kempa but across the Atlantic. Easy to understand, obviously from a Francophone country/region but with many elements of the local English accent from where you live.

 

By the way, you and the majority of non-native English speakers in this thread are amazingly good at English. In text form, I'd never know that most of you weren't native speakers. An accent for most is unavoidable as that's baked into the brain in childhood, but damn... You wrote this fic, Cat! What more is there to say than that?

 

Edit: To be clear there's quite a bit less Francophone accent there than Corinne, but I do detect it. I bet she dials it up a bit for Leliana, anyway.


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So I did the temple of Mythal on my current playthrough and proceeded to talk to Sera afterwards. This time my elfy-elf is romancing the sweet-as-pie Josie <3 and being more of a surrogate parent for Sera. And the result? Sera was actually almost reasonable during the conversation. I mean I sat the girl down and (gently) drove home the point that people can have different beliefs and she DIDN'T throw a tantrum. I got a slight and normal disapproval but that was it. No raised voices or anything. I diplomatically shot down her arguments on why I should believe differently than I did and all she did was get pouty. Friendly rooftop time survived. At the end she just sounded like a teenager who got educated on the finer points of adulthood and that was how I hoped the scene would play out.

 

Why can't she be this reasonable in a romance?



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...yeah...?

 

Don't take it wrong, though. Strong accents are equally awesome as others.

I'm not taking it wrong. I was amusingly confused. :D My students also get caught a little off guard when I speak English. ;)

 

Just listened. You kind of remind me a little of Corinne Kempa but across the Atlantic. Easy to understand, obviously from a Francophone country/region but with many elements of the local English accent from where you live.

 

By the way, you and the majority of non-native English speakers in this thread are amazingly good at English. In text form, I'd never know that most of you weren't native speakers. An accent for most is unavoidable as that's baked into the brain in childhood, but damn... You wrote this fic, Cat! What more is there to say than that?

 

Edit: To be clear there's quite a bit less Francophone accent there than Corinne, but I do detect it. I bet she dials it up a bit for Leliana, anyway.

Crimmy told me I had 'Lels vibes'.  :lol: Yeah, an accent is hard to eliminate completely. Some people can do it though. I be jelly. I think my pronunciation of the word 'undercroft' is a bit weird. The 'o' feels too strong for some reason...

 

Oh, and 'like Corinne but across the Atlantic'... that'll be my Canadian English VS her British English. 

 

So I did the temple of Mythal on my current playthrough and proceeded to talk to Sera afterwards. This time my elfy-elf is romancing the sweet-as-pie Josie <3 and being more of a surrogate parent for Sera. And the result? Sera was actually almost reasonable during the conversation. I mean I sat the girl down and (gently) drove home the point that people can have different beliefs and she DIDN'T throw a tantrum. I got a slight and normal disapproval but that was it. No raised voices or anything. I diplomatically shot down her arguments on why I should believe differently than I did and all she did was get pouty. Friendly rooftop time survived. At the end she just sounded like a teenager who got educated on the finer points of adulthood and that was how I hoped the scene would play out.

 

Why can't she be this reasonable in a romance?

Because she is more emotionally invested perhaps? Sera becomes quite unreasonable when prey to strong emotions. We see it in her personal quest, in the Fade, etc.



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Why can't she be this reasonable in a romance?

 

It's always easier to ignore someone you don't care about.

 

 

Crimmy told me I had 'Lels vibes'.  
 
That could just mean you're scary.


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It's always easier to ignore someone you don't care about.

 

 

 
That could just mean you're scary.

 

... I surprisingly do not have a problem with this. evilgrin.gif


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I'm not taking it wrong. I was amusingly confused. :D My students also get caught a little off guard when I speak English. ;)

 

Crimmy told me I had 'Lels vibes'.  :lol: Yeah, an accent is hard to eliminate completely. Some people can do it though. I be jelly. I think my pronunciation of the word 'undercroft' is a bit weird. The 'o' feels too strong for some reason...

 

Oh, and 'like Corinne but across the Atlantic'... that'll be my Canadian English VS her British English. 

 

Because she is more emotionally invested perhaps? Sera becomes quite unreasonable when prey to strong emotions. We see it in her personal quest, in the Fade, etc.

 

I guess I'll know the feeling if I ever graduate and become a teacher myself.

I mean, my favorite reaction to those street-sellers (you know the kind, I think - "I'm selling sh*t for charity, yo" kind - but you can't ever trust 'em, IMHO) is to pretend I do not understand a word Czech. And the accent on my English somehow always brings me through. It's hilarious.

 

Thing is, with the amount of bollocks they want me to learn - stuff I will never even use, as far as I know - I doubt I'll pass this semester. The bullsh*t levels are too damn high!!!!!!!11!11!!!!!one!!!1



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... I surprisingly do not have a problem with this. evilgrin.gif

 

...should anyone?

Being scary is not an inherently bad thing...



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...should anyone?

Being scary is not an inherently bad thing...

Well, being scary leads to people being scared of you, meaning that they will avoid you and you'll end up all alone.

Or if you manage to pull off 'sexy scary' then it's the opposite and they will never leave you alone.

 

;)



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Well, being scary leads to people being scared of you, meaning that they will avoid you and you'll end up all alone.

Or if you manage to pull off 'sexy scary' then it's the opposite and they will never leave you alone.

 

;)

 

Sexy scary? What's that? Scratching and biting?



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... I surprisingly do not have a problem with this. evilgrin.gif

 

Okay, but you're not allowed to interrogate the prisoners from now on.

 

 

...should anyone?

Being scary is not an inherently bad thing...

 

It's not an inherently good thing either.



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Well, being scary leads to people being scared of you, meaning that they will avoid you and you'll end up all alone.

Or if you manage to pull off 'sexy scary' then it's the opposite and they will never leave you alone.

 

;)

 

Being alone doesn't sound all that bad, if I think about it.

 

It's not an inherently good thing either.

 

Some of the downsides are bad. Most are... survivable.



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Oh, and 'like Corinne but across the Atlantic'... that'll be my Canadian English VS her British English. 

It also reminds me a bit of my wife and one of her brothers. Both speak very good English but are detectably Mexican. The difference is she has loads of British in there for obvious reasons, whereas he sound much more American.



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It also reminds me a bit of my wife and one of her brothers. Both speak very good English but are detectably Mexican. The difference is she has loads of British in there for obvious reasons, whereas he sound much more American.

There is a joke about tongues somewhere in there, but I need to have my breakfast before I can find it. *runs away*



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I finally met Sera.

 

So far, I like her.

 

She's clearly nuts.



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Some people can do it though. I be jelly. I think my pronunciation of the word 'undercroft' is a bit weird. The 'o' feels too strong for some reason...

 

Oh and this... I'm kind of one of those people... :whistle:

 

It means that in spoken French and Spanish I can get away with more technical errors, and I know how to pause so that people fill the right word in for me, and such... A written forum like this shows me up for the scammer that I am, though. ;)


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OH MY GOD! Space Jam is on my TV!  :P