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I still need to read Asimov but I really don't know where to start. Isn't all of his writing based within the same Universe, similar to Tolkien?



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I didn't go to college per se (not consistently), but I had this whole burst of energy and self-education around the same time. So I ended up catching up with stuff like this (along with a lot of typical classics.. Wuthering Heights, Monte Cristo, etc).

 

You've read well. Monte Cristo is a fantastic book and a deserved classic. I didn't even read that until later in life myself. I think once you get hooked into books and good stories it's pretty much hard to stop. 



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Not ringing a bell.

 

Should I be ashamed? ;)

No not at all. Not someone that you'd know if you didn't move in specific circles. Just the talk of Carl Sagan the other day plus Asimov now. Both identified as scientific skeptics, and Steve Novella runs an excellent podcast called the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe.


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You've read well. Monte Cristo is a fantastic book and a deserved classic. I didn't even read that until later in life myself. I think once you get hooked into books and good stories it's pretty much hard to stop. 

 

It's not really that different than all the comics I loved though. :D In a way, I see it as the inspiration now. Or one of them. He's Batman. But cooler.

 

I mean that in the best way.


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I still need to read Asimov but I really don't know where to start. Isn't all of his writing based within the same Universe, similar to Tolkien?

Kind of. He wrote different stuff and tied it all together towards the end of his career... The original Foundation Trilogy is a good place to start. It's some of his earlier work, although it's towards the end in terms of in-universe chronology. They are short books, too.



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Dune and Robert E Howard (the original Conan short stories) stand out as the best sci-fi and fantasy I've read to date... 

 

But I everytime I recommend them, no one finishes. :\ I know they're popular elsewhere.



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Kind of. He wrote different stuff and tied it all together towards the end of his career... The original Foundation Trilogy is a good place to start. It's some of his earlier work, although it's towards the end in terms of in-universe chronology. They are short books, too.

 

http://www.amazon.co...d/dp/184159332X

 

Look at the price for a used paperback copy!



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Funny thing about older Asimov. I re-read Pebble in the Sky the other month. It's a really progressive book for its time whose central theme is an allegory for 40s/50s America and racism, but man... The gender politics. The lead male character's love interest is a female scientist, which is good, but she's all "soft" and "fragile" and "womanly" and the like... It's definitely of its time...

 

If you want to get gender critical of Asimov then the first few Foundation books basically don't have women in them.

 

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It's not really that different than all the comics I loved though. :D In a way, I see it as the inspiration now. Or one of them. He's Batman. But cooler.

 

I mean that in the best way.

 

It would surely make a great graphic novel! The inspiration of classic heroes and anti-heroes has always been there. I can see the influence of a lot of 19th century adventure novels on comics. Dumas certainly. H Rider Haggard, Conan-Doyle (for Professor Challenger just as much as Holmes), or some of the pulpier stuff from say Sax Rohmer, Talbot Mundy, Lovecraft etc (although a fair bit of that stuff is politically problematic by todays standards and rightfully so).



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http://www.amazon.co...d/dp/184159332X

 

Look at the price for a used paperback copy!

Much cheaper second hand if you get them individually...

 

http://www.amazon.co...asap_bc?ie=UTF8

http://www.amazon.co...asap_bc?ie=UTF8

http://www.amazon.co...asap_bc?ie=UTF8

 

 

 

If you want to get gender critical of Asimov then the first few Foundation books basically don't have women in them.

Yeah I'm sure I'd notice that if I re-read them now. it's been a while...



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It would surely make a great graphic novel! The inspiration of classic heroes and anti-heroes has always been there. I can see the influence of a lot of 19th century adventure novels on comics. Dumas certainly. H Rider Haggard, Conan-Doyle (for Professor Challenger just as much as Holmes), or some of the pulpier stuff from say Sax Rohmer, Talbot Mundy, Lovecraft etc (although a fair bit of that stuff is politically problematic by todays standards and rightfully so).

 

Yeah, a lot pulp is.. but I can't help but love it (that's why I mentioned Howard above).



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My condolences.

 

What? I liked it.

 

Legos, ugh! Not pleasant if you step on them.

 

 

 

*shudders*

 

Little land mines, right...

 

^

 

I got bored of harry potter quickly. It was more or less the same thing over and over again.

 

Harry goes to school, fights a big bad'  goes home for holidays, and the next year the same thing happens, rinse and repeat. With some variances towards the end.

 

I was six.

(And first thing when counting my age from that, forget the UK release date for the first book - it took several years before it got here, translated)



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I haven't really got the money now anyway. Damn my cursed spending! But I'll put them on the list of things to buy. They are right behind a Gimp Suit and 55 gallons of lubricant.  :P 



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I haven't really got the money now anyway. Damn my cursed spending! But I'll put them on the list of things to buy. They are right behind a Gimp Suit and 55 gallons of lubricant.  :P 

 

CREATORS. THE LUBRICANT.

 

WE NEED TO BUY OFF ALL THE SUPPLIES, SO POODLE GETS NONE.

 

(But the "Goes well with my 55 gallon drum of pornography" review was so awesome I laughed real long and hard.)


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Yeah, a lot pulp is.. but I can't help but love it (that's why I mentioned Howard above).

 

I love him too although I prefer Soloman Kane to Conan these days.  I read some of the pre-comics pulp things in my 30's just to explore some of that so things like the old Shadow tales to Fantomas to some of the occult horror writings of Wheatley or deGrandin etc. It varied in quality a lot of it but it was all fun to read. 



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I love him too although I prefer Soloman Kane to Conan these days.  I read some of the pre-comics pulp things in my 30's just to explore some of that so things like the old Shadow tales to Fantomas to some of the occult horror writings of Wheatley or deGrandin etc. It varied in quality a lot of it but it was all fun to read. 

 

Bah... finally ran out of likes. :P



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Bah... finally ran out of likes. :P

 

I know how that feels. I've been trying to be more conservative with them these days as I found I was running out of them too often!  :lol:


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What? I liked it.

 

My condolences.

 

I got up to five before I stopped to think 'Why am I doing this?'.



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CREATORS. THE LUBRICANT.

 

WE NEED TO BUY OFF ALL THE SUPPLIES, SO POODLE GETS NONE.

 

(But the "Goes well with my 55 gallon drum of pornography" review was so awesome I laughed real long and hard.)

 

You should read some of the Q&A for that as well as for Tuskan Milk and the Banana Slicer.

 

Tuskan Milk:

http://www.amazon.co...8/dp/B00032G1S0

 

Banana Slicer:

http://www.amazon.co..._rhf_dp_p_img_3



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Though no one said anything until a reunion seven years later, it was at this point that some of the thread regulars began to suspect that LightningPoodle was actually an insane Amazon spam bot.


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That's today, but it doesn't mean it will be the same tomorrow, or the next. Every second/third day ,I have logged on this week and visited the Solas thread there has been one or more of the following: 

 

1-Overly Explicit content.

2- Sex Doll talk

3- People who don't feel comfortable with explicit material, are immature, unnatural, or are being ridiculas.

 

That thread has become extremely uncomfortable for Aces, straight guys, and people who are not comfortable with certain content.I know of three people who don't visit that thread anymore because of it. After today, I will be the fourth.

 

 

Sorry to hear that. I msut be logged out during the uncomfortable times. 

 

Shame you'll miss out on the theories. Normally it's quite fun. :( 



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Though no one said anything until a reunion seven years later, it was at this point that some of the thread regulars began to suspect that LightningPoodle was actually an insane Amazon spam bot.

 

Please. I'm providing harmless entertainment... and if you make a purchase, then yay, profits!



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I've never read the Harry Potter books, but I've listened to them, as read by Stephen Fry. I thought they were quite enjoyable. In terms of recent-ish kids' fantasy that I'm theoretically too old to have read, though, I preferred Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials Trilogy.



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Morning lovelies. 


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My condolences.

 

I got up to five before I stopped to think 'Why am I doing this?'.

 

I was six when I read the first book.

 

All in all, the last book came out in 2007-ish, when I was about twelve.