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[Basement Cat]

Stop posting that, Cat. It's... distracting.

Isn't she stunning? So was Olivia De Havilland

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[AWTEW]

Happy medium sounds about right.

I actually don't mind Cassandra as Divine, all things considered. I just think Leli is a better fit for that kind of job, so she always gets my vote.

I think leli is the opposite extreme to vivine , which is why I prefer cass. If you try and force radical change, it never really works..And the poor warden would always be in second place to the sunburst throne. Lelliana was willing to leave the warden for justina. If it eventually came to a choice between the Warden and the Sunburst throne, she would choose the sumburst throne imo

[YourFunnyUncle]

I've no interest in Twilight, but I have nothing against Kristen Stewart, and I think you all know that I love short hair, but that pic Crim posted... I've never seen anyone look so bored.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Isn't she stunning? So was Olivia De Havilland

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And Marilyn:

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I think leli is the opposite extreme to vivine , which is why I prefer cass. If you try and force radical change, it never really works..And the poor warden would always be in second place to the sunburst throne. Lelliana was willing to leave the warden for justina. If it eventually came to a choice between the Warden and the Sunburst throne, she would choose the sumburst throne imo

Yeah, she's a middle ground. It works for her.
 

I've no interest in Twilight, but I have nothing against Kristen Stewart, and I think you all know that I love short hair, but that pic Crim posted... I've never seen anyone look so bored.

She tends to look bored and dull whenever Edward isn't around. Or so that's what I got from the movies.

When he is around, she looks awkward instead.

[veeia]

Lindsey Lohan was gorgeous before she ruined her face and also her life. Hollywood is so toxic, feel bad for her.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Is it bad that I read this, which makes some good points about realistic roeleplaying...

 

http://uk.ign.com/ar...m_medium=social

 

And immediately thought of this?

 

1:20 for the relevant bit...

[Fiery Phoenix]

Someone posted similar thoughts here:

 

http://www.theguardi...inquisition-gay

 

It's actually pretty cool seeing romance stirring so much emotion out of folks.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Someone posted similar thoughts here:

 

http://www.theguardi...inquisition-gay

 

It's actually pretty cool seeing romance stirring so much emotion out of folks.

Yes I read that earlier, too. I don't have the same problems that others do with the big areas and side quests and the like, but it's the characters that make me come back to BioWare games again and again, and they are great in Inquisition.

[raging_monkey]

Lindsey Lohan was gorgeous before she ruined her face and also her life. Hollywood is so toxic, feel bad for her.

yea child stars get it rough. Still hot though

[Fiery Phoenix]

I didn't read or watch any of the Twilight series just wasn't interested in them but I absolutely loved Stephanie Meyers book The Host though. I was surprised by how much I enjoyed that book, then they had to totally screw up the movie.

I had the same experience with the Twilight books. I read the original book when I was a freshman back in 2008-2009 (when the series first gained popularity), and I enjoyed it a lot if I'm being honest. Then the movies happen, and I lose all and any interest I had in the series for good.

[CrimsonN7]

Happy medium sounds about right.

 

I actually don't mind Cassandra as Divine, all things considered. I just think Leli is a better fit for that kind of job, so she always gets my vote.

 

I managed to get 3 different Divines in my 3 runs so far lol. Divine Sith Lels was my first and favourite, she'll keep her warden love on the side, I have no doubt about this, she's changing enough rules as it is anyway. I like Cass too for different reasons, at least she's willing to change some rules, Viv just keeps the old rot in place but with a firmer grip. I did like her steel in regards to those who rebelled against her rule though.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I managed to get 3 different Divines in my 3 runs so far lol. Divine Sith Lels was my first and favourite, she'll keep her warden love on the side, I have no doubt about this, she's changing enough rules as it is anyway. I like Cass too for different reasons, at least she's willing to change some rules, Viv just keeps the old rot in place but with a firmer grip. I did like her steel in regards to those who rebelled against her rule though.

I'm not even sure how you get Vivienne but I think I could do it if I wanted to. I do like how the three candidates each correspond to a particular path with regards to the Chantry and mages/templars. You support full mage freedom? Leliana. You want to go back to how things were in the good ol' days? Vivienne. You want something in between? Cassandra.

 

Probably part of the reason Mother Giselle isn't an option, now that I think about it. I don't really know where she would fit.

[Dgyre]

Visual aid required.

 

 

 

.....  I'll be in my bunk.......

[raging_monkey]

.....  I'll be in my bunk.......

* passes towel*

[YourFunnyUncle]

I never expressed a desire to go back to the good old days and yet I got Vivienne. I think it's because the game interprets conscripting the mages as being against mage freedom whereas for me it was because I didn't trust their leadership. Also I said to Vivienne that I thought mages should be in the Chantry. I thought I was being radical but apparently I was supporting her as Divine...

[raging_monkey]

I never expressed a desire to go back to the good old days and yet I got Vivienne. I think it's because the game interprets conscripting the mages as being against mage freedom whereas for me it was because I didn't trust their leadership. Also I said to Vivienne that I thought mages should be in the Chantry. I thought I was being radical but apparently I was supporting her as Divine...

she's orlaisan she knows how make your words "proper" and for her endorsement

[YourFunnyUncle]

If we're posting gorgeous old movie stars...

[Fiery Phoenix]

I never expressed a desire to go back to the good old days and yet I got Vivienne. I think it's because the game interprets conscripting the mages as being against mage freedom whereas for me it was because I didn't trust their leadership. Also I said to Vivienne that I thought mages should be in the Chantry. I thought I was being radical but apparently I was supporting her as Divine...

That would be it. The game does sort of interpret conscripting the mages as being pro-Circle and therefore against complete mage freedom, something that aligns with Vivienne's perspective.

[raging_monkey]

If we're posting gorgeous old movie stars...

woof

[Aimi]

I never expressed a desire to go back to the good old days and yet I got Vivienne. I think it's because the game interprets conscripting the mages as being against mage freedom whereas for me it was because I didn't trust their leadership. Also I said to Vivienne that I thought mages should be in the Chantry. I thought I was being radical but apparently I was supporting her as Divine...

In addition to what other people have said, it's worth pointing out that it's not entirely about the viewpoints the Inquisitor has that will determine the outcome of the Divine's election. It's the knock-on consequences of the decisions that she makes, in addition to more direct actions. And it's always worth pointing out that the way people understand something that is said is not the same thing as the way in which it was originally meant!

For example, conscripting the mages. I think it's entirely defensible to do it on the grounds of "Fiona you destroy everything you touch and cannot be trusted with anything" rather than "mages suck and can't control themselves". But you can kinda see how many clerics would infer the latter from the former. And you can also see how diminishing one of Vivienne's major political rivals would improve Vivienne's position considerably. None of this even requires much, if any, spin on anyone's part: they're just natural, if entirely unintended, consequences of the action taken.

Because frankly, history itself is the story of a zillion individuals making their own decisions by their own lights, and all the unintended consequences of those decisions piling up as a result. I like that a lot of the stuff about the Divine isn't a straightforward "I will put you in power, have fun" on Inky's part. It makes the result feel a lot more organic!

[YourFunnyUncle]

That would be it. The game does sort of interpret conscripting the mages as being pro-Circle and therefore against complete mage freedom, something that aligns with Vivienne's perspective.

It really shouldn't. Yes allying with either the mages or Templars demonstrates a clear allegiance to one side, but conscripting mages or disbanding templars is a much greyer choice, and I think the game should reflect that. Maybe it does and it's other things I said that influenced me getting Vivienne as divine, but beyond the dialogue I mentioned I'm not sure what it could be...

[Fiery Phoenix]

It really shouldn't. Yes allying with either the mages or Templars demonstrates a clear allegiance to one side, but conscripting mages or disbanding templars is a much greyer choice, and I think the game should reflect that. Maybe it does and it's other things I said that influenced me getting Vivienne as divine, but beyond the dialogue I mentioned I'm not sure what it could be...

I know what you mean. It's part of what makes all this so confusing. You're never 100% sure you're getting the Divine you want until the credits roll.

 

I know I was scared I wouldn't get Leliana at some point. Thankfully I was wrong.

[YourFunnyUncle]

In addition to what other people have said, it's worth pointing out that it's not entirely about the viewpoints the Inquisitor has that will determine the outcome of the Divine's election. It's the knock-on consequences of the decisions that she makes, in addition to more direct actions. And it's always worth pointing out that the way people understand something that is said is not the same thing as the way in which it was originally meant!

For example, conscripting the mages. I think it's entirely defensible to do it on the grounds of "Fiona you destroy everything you touch and cannot be trusted with anything" rather than "mages suck and can't control themselves". But you can kinda see how many clerics would infer the latter from the former. And you can also see how diminishing one of Vivienne's major political rivals would improve Vivienne's position considerably. None of this even requires much, if any, spin on anyone's part: they're just natural, if entirely unintended, consequences of the action taken.

Because frankly, history itself is the story of a zillion individuals making their own decisions by their own lights, and all the unintended consequences of those decisions piling up as a result. I like that a lot of the stuff about the Divine isn't a straightforward "I will put you in power, have fun" on Inky's part. It makes the result feel a lot more organic!

This does make sense too, especially in my case given my inqisitor's open lack of faith, but in that case it would be good to at least hear the reasoning behind the decision. You'd think that Vivienne, Leliana or Josephine would between them have the connections to find out and explain...