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#56826
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Also, that's not a language. ;)

 

I know, Tanner is the biggest Texan ditz ever. Eye-roll central. 



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Yeah love that too, even tho Sera was kiiiinda unfair in this banter i just posted. I mean this elf is old as hell, it's logical she'd only know her birth language. :P

 

What surprised me is why didn't Solas help with translation. Isn't the same language with recent elven?

 

She's snotty as hell in that exchange but there is an air of condescension sometimes with Solas so it evens out I think.



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Ugh those moments really grinded my gears, what I wouldn't give for a shut-up Sera interrupt. Feels like I'm the last of the elven supporters here on this thread at times I swear. :ph34r:

 

Sera was right though in first banter about the words thing. Solas speaks to her in a language she does not know, yet he insists just bc she looks elven. If i was Sera i'd be annoyed too. It's like someone talking to me in a language i don't know but they assume i do just because i'm, say, Chinese tbh.

 

Or in my case, talking to me in ancient Greek. Like pls.

 

 

Pride is annoying sometimes.


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#56829
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No you're not. We are watching  :ph34r:

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Ah well... Tolkien elves... Now they are pretty unreservedly awesome...



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I can't really see "elvish" as being a synonym with "Dalish". Not even in the game, and especially not now that I've read Masked Empire (which I wanted to read to get some background on the people in Wicked Eyes).

 

I was feeling very sympathetic to Briala when

 

Spoiler

 

But again, that's the only DA book I've read so my impression could be incomplete. Still.



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Sera was right though in first banter about the words thing. Solas speaks to her in a language she does not know, yet he insists just bc she looks elven. If i was Sera i'd be annoyed too. It's like someone talking to me in a language i don't know but they assume i do just because i'm, say, Chinese tbh.

 

Or in my case, talking to me in ancient Greek. Like pls.

 

 

Pride is annoying sometimes.

 

It would have been alright if he'd dropped it after she said she didn't understand the first time. I mean, he thought she might understand the cadence, which is perfectly acceptable. But she tells him she doesn't understand and doesn't care and he tries again! 

 

Oaf. 



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Sera was right though in first banter about the words thing. Solas speaks to her in a language she does not know, yet he insists just bc she looks elven. If i was Sera i'd be annoyed too. It's like someone talking to me in a language i don't know but they assume i do just because i'm, say, Chinese tbh.

 

Or in my case, talking to me in ancient Greek. Like pls.

 

 

Pride is annoying sometimes.

 

That /\. That's it exactly. Solas takes great offense that she doesn't seem to want to know and he assumes or insists she must because she has pointy ears. I had to ask him last night about a gift for her and his offense became pretty clear in the exchange we had. "Lighten up Solas or maybe try a different tack with her?" 



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You forgot the lyrium smuggler lurker who de-cloaks out of nowhere and takes half your health in one shot...

Man, those smugglers love running in when you are fighting a group of bears. lol



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Solas and Sera can be as bad as each other. It's like Fenris and Anders all over again, except I actually like both of them, for some reason.



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There was a never a time in my life when I liked Anders.


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I can't really see "elvish" as being a synonym with "Dalish". Not even in the game, and especially not now that I've read Masked Empire (which I wanted to read to get some background on the people in Wicked Eyes).
 
I was feeling very sympathetic to Briala when
 

Spoiler

 
But again, that's the only DA book I've read so my impression could be incomplete. Still.


At the risk of starting the war again here, i'll say that the Dalish have no obligation or responsibility towards the city elves. To gain respect one has to prove they deserve it.
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#56837
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There was a never a time in my life when I liked Anders.

I thought he was OK in Awakenings. Can't stand either him or Fenris in DA2.



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 I don't like Solas for various reasons, but I respect him. So use him in my party, but never talk to him in Skyhold. lol



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There was a never a time in my life when I liked Anders.

 

I liked him in Awakenings! 

 

But I was soooo glad when I got to execute him in DA2. 


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It would have been alright if he'd dropped it after she said she didn't understand the first time. I mean, he thought she might understand the cadence, which is perfectly acceptable. But she tells him she doesn't understand and doesn't care and he tries again! 

 

Oaf. 

 

Yes. Grinds my gears when he keeps doing it. In general, this attitude pisses me off.

 

Sera may be "rude" but she's right. You should speak with words she understands in order to reply to you. "Pompous" or some other language she has no idea about.


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 I don't like Solas for various reasons, but I respect him. So use him in my party, but never talk to him in Skyhold. lol

 

That's pretty much what I end up doing. There was that time he asked for a large round room and a lot of paint so I ordered paints and brushes for him and leave him to his work.


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Yes. Grinds my gears when he keeps doing it. In general, this attitude pisses me off.

 

Sera may be "rude" but she's right. You should speak with words she understands in order to reply to you. "Pompous" or some other language she has no idea about.

 

There are times when I don't mind Sera being rude, (usually when she's right) but other times I want to bloody gag her. 


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There are times when I don't mind Sera being rude, (usually when she's right) but other times I want to bloody gag her. 

 

She's only rude to him though cause he tries to be big soul brother elf with her and force her to conform to his expectations of what he thinks she should be. He doesn't give her a chance to be herself or to try and understand her. It's really a lot on him as I see it. Sera behaves badly with the two people who put her down the most in game Viv and Solas. Even Dorian and Cass whom she spars with at first she develops a better relationship with after they make the adjustments. Solas and Viv never adjust.


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Sera was right though in first banter about the words thing. Solas speaks to her in a language she does not know, yet he insists just bc she looks elven. If i was Sera i'd be annoyed too. It's like someone talking to me in a language i don't know but they assume i do just because i'm, say, Chinese tbh.

 

Or in my case, talking to me in ancient Greek. Like pls.

 

 

Pride is annoying sometimes.

 

To be fair Solas just woke from a long ass frozen in time sleep, he was trying to connect with Sera in his own unique way, he was mistaken, she took it waaaay too personal, put down the pitchfork Sera, you have plenty of more opportunities to dump on elves later.


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#56845
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She's only rude to him though cause he tries to be big soul brother elf with her and force her to conform to his expectations of what he thinks she should be. He doesn't give her a chance to be herself or to try and understand her. It's really a lot on him as I see it. Sera behaves badly with the two people who put her down the most in game Viv and Solas. Even Dorian and Cass whom she spars with at first she develops a better relationship with after they make the adjustments. Solas and Viv never adjust.

 

I will give you that, but what right does she have to be awful to our Guide in the Temple of Mythal?


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#56846
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Sera may be "rude" but she's right. You should speak with words she understands in order to reply to you. "Pompous" or some other language she has no idea about.

Fair enough with Solas, but in the example Cat gave why should she not have to make any effort to learn her own language? How is Dorian supposed to know what the extent of her vocabulary is before he speaks?



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Ugh those moments really grinded my gears, what I wouldn't give for a shut-up Sera interrupt. Feels like I'm the last of the elven supporters here on this thread at times I swear. :ph34r:

 

I feel there's a fight that needs to happen with a Dalish romance that never does.

 

but other times I want to bloody gag her. 

 

Steady.



#56848
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Steady.

 

...I'm calm...ish...



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Fair enough with Solas, but in the example Cat gave why should she not have to make any effort to learn her own language? How is Dorian supposed to know what the extent of her vocabulary is before he speaks?

Exactly. Other possible come backs to her comment:

 

1: How am I supposed to know you don't know the word before I use it?

2: Well nobody is going to understand those words if nobody uses them. So there.


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There are times when I don't mind Sera being rude, (usually when she's right) but other times I want to bloody gag her.

... What kind of gag are we talking about? *interest piqued*


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