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[SnakeCode]

The main issue that I've seen is that using "it" to refer to a person is going to upset non-binary or otherwise trans individuals for understandable reasons, given that referring to them by "it" is a way to bully and dehumanize them. Some non-binary individuals are okay with being referred to by "it," as they feel nothing else fits. But for the most part, as far as I am aware, using that without being told they're fine with it is usually a jerk thing to do.

 

The thing is that these stories do not exist in a vacuum. I can look at the story all by itself, sure, I can look at the characters and see how they react to things because of the world they live in, okay. But this world and these characters were still constructed by someone in reality. Someone who is going to have various biases whether they're conscious of them or not and the people those biases are most pertinent to are going to see that in their writing.

 

So, I can definitely see why some are angry regards Sera saying "it."

 

Hopefully some manner of clarification + positive development will occur when the game is out and we can see for ourselves.

I can see why some have this reaction. I do however, think they're jumping the gun a bit by comparing a serial killing demon to transgendered people. We don't even know if fade entities identify as a particular gender yet.

[Ashira Shepard]

Which is why I'm not particularly vexed until I've seen what is going on with those characters in-game.

[ThomasBlaine]

...I would strongly hesitate to call her an abrasive sociopath, since she seems concerned about finding people who "aren't so bad" and helping them be "not so dead." If you want a better example of sociopathic behaviour, there's Morinth.

 

Did you need to think of an excuse to bring Isabela along? Or Leliana? One is a pirate and the other was a fancy assassin who may or may not have murdered people mid-coitus. (I seem to recall that coming up in a conversation with her...)

 

Sera is impulsive and reactionary, taking delight in humbling the established authority she views as arrogant and selfish. For her, it's not about what's right, it's about what's right now. She sees actions taken for a 'greater good' as simply an excuse to hurt others who don't deserve it simply because it's easier. She was a member of the enigmatic group of rogues known as the Friends of Red Jenny, yet the coming of the Breach terrified her.^[3] Fortunately, Sera and her "friends" can be frightening, too, and if she needs to put an arrow through some baddies so regular people can sleep at night, so be it. Sera fights for those caught in the middle, but she also needs order restored. The world has to be normal so she can play.

 

She's an impulsive vigilante gang-criminal who spurs authority on principle and wants to save the world "so she can play". Sociopath.

 

I didn't need an excuse to bring Isabela along initially because Hawke was basically just a desperate mercenary himself and she had information he could use, but afterwards I needed one to involve her in sensitive or combat-heavy quests, and basically anything that she wasn't already caught up in. And yes, I did need an excuse to bring Leliana along. When we first met her she basically presented herself as an addle-brained priest with a little bit of combat training and a cute little knife. And an Orlesian accent, and, as was eventually revealed, Orlesian bard training, which didn't exactly help matters. The only ones of my human characters who trusted her were the ones she managed to seduce, and I ended up leaving her in Lothering more often than not.

 

At least neither the dwarves, elves or mages would care about the Orlesian thing, though Loghain certainly did, but the Inquisitor is supposed to unite every major faction in Thedas, on an international level. An unrepentant, murderous, contrary elf criminal isn't a very politically savvy addition to the team for that purpose.

[Vapaa]

What do you guys think?

 

I love her, and my first Inquisitor loves her even more.

 

Also, she's not a diplomatic asset, but she as never intended too. She's a combat asset for your party and her friends are asset for your Inquisition....in fact none of the companion would qualify if what's you're wanting is diplomacy;

[ThomasBlaine]

I love her, and my first Inquisitor loves her even more.

 

Also, she's not a diplomatic asset, but she as never intended too. She's a combat asset for your party and her friends are asset for your Inquisition....in fact none of the companion would qualify if what's you're wanting is diplomacy;

 

How so? Blackwall is a Grey Warden, Iron Bull is a... huge guy with a huge sword, I guess...., Cassandra is a trained soldier, as is the Inquisitor if s/he's a warrior, and they have three mages to back them up, four including a mage Inquisitor. And then there's Varric for common sense, business connections and badass archery, and Cole for sneaky assassin-y stuff. I don't see where Sera will personally make a huge difference in that lot.

 

You're right that her familiarity with Friends of Red Jenny can come in handy, though. And Iron Bull is indeed a politically hazardous companion too, and I have the same doubts about him as I do about Sera. Dorian and Solas are mages though, and so too obviously useful to dismiss, and they're also representatives of two of the major factions we're going to have to deal with. Cole is... I don't know. We'll have to see how he's presented in the game, but it'd logically be pretty hard to trust him too.

[Maria Caliban]

...in fact none of the companion would qualify if what's you're wanting is diplomacy.

Vivienne is considered a master of the Game.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Varric has always been a pretty good talker, also, and I think he could win over a lot of people outside of Orlais that Vivienne couldn't, because she's pretty focused on their more hostile, social climbing tactics. I could see Dorian being pretty convincing, also. He seems charismatic, at least.  

[Xilizhra]

Sera is impulsive and reactionary, taking delight in humbling the established authority she views as arrogant and selfish. For her, it's not about what's right, it's about what's right now. She sees actions taken for a 'greater good' as simply an excuse to hurt others who don't deserve it simply because it's easier. She was a member of the enigmatic group of rogues known as the Friends of Red Jenny, yet the coming of the Breach terrified her.^[3] Fortunately, Sera and her "friends" can be frightening, too, and if she needs to put an arrow through some baddies so regular people can sleep at night, so be it. Sera fights for those caught in the middle, but she also needs order restored. The world has to be normal so she can play.

 

She's an impulsive vigilante gang-criminal who spurs authority on principle and wants to save the world "so she can play". Sociopath.

 

I didn't need an excuse to bring Isabela along initially because Hawke was basically just a desperate mercenary himself and she had information he could use, but afterwards I needed one to involve her in sensitive or combat-heavy quests, and basically anything that she wasn't already caught up in. And yes, I did need an excuse to bring Leliana along. When we first met her she basically presented herself as an addle-brained priest with a little bit of combat training and a cute little knife. And an Orlesian accent, and, as was eventually revealed, Orlesian bard training, which didn't exactly help matters. The only ones of my human characters who trusted her were the ones she managed to seduce, and I ended up leaving her in Lothering more often than not.

 

At least neither the dwarves, elves or mages would care about the Orlesian thing, though Loghain certainly did, but the Inquisitor is supposed to unite every major faction in Thedas, on an international level. An unrepentant, murderous, contrary elf criminal isn't a very politically savvy addition to the team for that purpose.

Sociopaths would not, in general, worry about others being arrogant and selfish unless it hurt them specifically, and Sera seems to want to protect others.

 

As for the Cole thing... if this is solely on an initial meeting, I can overlook it. If it persists for much longer after that, then it's bigotry.

[Vapaa]

Vivienne is considered a master of the Game.

 

The Orlesian game has its specific set of rules, she surely has the edge in Orlais, but out of her comfort zone....

 

Varric has always been a pretty good talker, also, and I think he could win over a lot of people outside of Orlais that Vivienne couldn't, because she's pretty focused on their more hostile, social climbing tactics. I could see Dorian being pretty convincing, also. He seems charismatic, at least.  

 

Varric is a great merchant, but no diplomat, or even politician, I doubt he's even interested in the matter, as for Dorian, he's a Tevinter magister, not the most loved person in Thedas.

 

Point is, you are the leader of the Inquisition, with the advisers as its storefront, the companions are resources and fighters.

[Maria Caliban]

A good diplomat is someone who will get others to do what you want them to do with a minimum of negative long-term consequences. They are politicians.

A person does not need to be 'likable' or 'nice' to excel at diplomacy.

[ThomasBlaine]

Sociopaths would not, in general, worry about others being arrogant and selfish unless it hurt them specifically, and Sera seems to want to protect others.

 

As for the Cole thing... if this is solely on an initial meeting, I can overlook it. If it persists for much longer after that, then it's bigotry.

 

Of course not, no way does the elf low-life feel personally offended by the supremacist human authority figures. That wouldn't make sense.

 

Not really, spirits and demons have always been hard to get a handle on, and they're the ones suddenly invading Thedas en masse. It makes perfect sense to be suspicious of one that turns up with excellent powers of assassination and offers its assistance without prompt.

[Xilizhra]

Of course not, no way does the elf low-life feel personally offended by the supremacist human authority figures. That wouldn't make sense.

 

Not really, spirits and demons have always been hard to get a handle on, and they're the ones suddenly invading Thedas en masse. It makes perfect sense to be suspicious of one that turns up with excellent powers of assassination and offers its assistance without prompt.

In short, there's not nearly enough evidence to declare her a sociopath now, and I'm almost positive there won't be in the actual game.

[The Elder King]

Sociopaths would not, in general, worry about others being arrogant and selfish unless it hurt them specifically, and Sera seems to want to protect others.

As for the Cole thing... if this is solely on an initial meeting, I can overlook it. If it persists for much longer after that, then it's bigotry.

Why it would be bigotry?

[Xilizhra]

Why it would be bigotry?

Continuing to dislike someone solely due to their metaphysical nature and not their behavior.

[The Elder King]

Continuing to dislike someone solely due to their metaphysical nature and not their behavior.

What if she dislike him for his behaviour too? The interview didn't clarify if her dislike of him is based only on his nature.
Though I don't understand. Isn't she allowed to fear him because of his nature? Why should she necessarily have to be friendly with him after some time?

[Xilizhra]

What if she dislike him for his behaviour too? The interview didn't clarify if her dislike of him is based only on his nature.
Though I don't understand. Isn't she allowed to fear him because of his nature? Why should she necessarily have to be friendly with him after some time?

Not necessarily friendly, but no longer fearful once his credentials have been established. And not depersonalizing.

[ThomasBlaine]

In short, there's not nearly enough evidence to declare her a sociopath now, and I'm almost positive there won't be in the actual game.

 

Uh, yes, I'm pretty sure there is, on the basis of her description at the Dragon Age wiki alone. We'll see how she appears in the game.

[Maria Caliban]

Within a work of fiction, it's not unusual for two characters to start by strongly disliking one another and for that to change into sexual tension, grudging respect, or true friendship.

See: Spock and Bones, Legolas and Gimli, David and Maddie.

[Xilizhra]

Uh, yes, I'm pretty sure there is, on the basis of her description at the Dragon Age wiki alone. We'll see how she appears in the game.

Er... I've heard of people playing Internet psychiatrist before, but never based on a single paragraph of text. Do you truly believe that there are no impulsive people who enjoy the underworld life who are not sociopaths?

[ThomasBlaine]

Not necessarily friendly, but no longer fearful once his credentials have been established. And not depersonalizing.

 

It's not bigotry to be suspicious of a spirit when you're at war with spirits, especially not when they're notoriously unreliable and irrational, no matter how trustworthy it seems.

[The Elder King]

Not necessarily friendly, but no longer fearful once his credentials have been established. And not depersonalizing.

I can agree on the last part, but on not being fearful, I don't. His 'credentials' means nothing. A person can lie. If you don't trust a person, or fear him/her, chances are your fear or mistrust won't go away easily. She'd need time to come to trust or not fear him (expecially in the case she has a personal experience for fearing demons/spirits).
And if his credentials include his past in the White spire, i don't see how that would make her fear Cole less.

[ThomasBlaine]

Er... I've heard of people playing Internet psychiatrist before, but never based on a single paragraph of text. Do you truly believe that there are no impulsive people who enjoy the underworld life who are not sociopaths?

 

Who are also vigilantes and killers, and who enjoy it? I'm sure there are some, but her description doesn't imply that she's one of them.

[Xilizhra]

I can agree on the last part, but on not being fearful, I don't. His 'credentials' means nothing. A person can lie. If you don't trust a person, or fear him/her, chances are your fear or mistrust won't go away easily. She'd need time to come to trust or not fear him (expecially in the case she has a personal experience for fearing demons/spirits).
And if his credentials include his past in the White spire, i don't see how that would make her fear Cole less.

I won't kick her out of the party or anything, but I'll keep an eye on her. Especially if there are more examples of depersonalization.

[The Elder King]

I won't kick her out of the party or anything, but I'll keep an eye on her. Especially if there are more examples of depersonalization.

I don't really care of what my followers think of each other. They're free to believe what they will, unless they'll to too far. And since she seems set on Ignoring him, I don't have a problem with this.

[Xilizhra]

I don't really care of what my followers think of each other. They're free to believe what they will, unless they'll to too far. And since she seems set on Ignoring him, I don't have a problem with this.

I would have welcomed an option to tell Fenris to lay off Merill, personally. As for Sera ignoring him... well, unless they somehow have fewer examples of party banter than everyone else, I don't know if that'll really work.