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#57876
Dean_the_Young

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And other people could see it differently and they would have every right to do so, because it's left completely ambiguous. LightningPoodle's reaction is an example of that - he questioned if she was supposed to be gay.

 

Imagine what an average straight person would think: Yeah, she wanted to get the info, but obviously she couldn't be so completely uninterested if she even wanted to go into seduction on the first place, and went so far as making him naked.

 

The writers could make up any other reason leading to the same result, but they had to make a lesbian be put in sexual situation with a man.

 

What's stereotypically straight about that?

 

Seduction is used because seduction works. You need no other motivation than that, and 'making him naked' is hardly something to stop before if you're serious about being shamelessly seductive.



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Okay back from the store. I'm already tired of this year and it's... mid January... so I'm going to have a bit of scotch now.


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Okay back from the store. I'm already tired of this year and it's... mid January... so I'm going to have a bit of scotch now.

Poor me some as well please. 



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It's lunchtime here but I'll take some too, it's that kind of a week lately. :lol:

#57880
Sporothrix

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I know what you mean. I wanted that bloody wall to come down as well. lol

 

I always thought that after the game was done to certain point, one of the devs actually decided to check out the manuals for stats and found out that you can't fight gods on that level.

 

Kelemvor said that almost literally. So my character was first like "I WILL DESTROY THAT D*MN WALL!!!1111!!" but after meeting him the only options was basically "lol k bye".



#57881
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I just had some lovely Tequila. (Don Julio, Kasumi, if you're reading.)

 

Now to make Cass some better armour...



#57882
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It's lunchtime here but I'll take some too, it's that kind of a week lately. :lol:

 

For me, it's that kind of day. Snowflake, pour me a glass while you're at it.  :P



#57883
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This is me sharing scotch with THE ENTIRE THREAD -- at least, anyone who wants a shot.


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#57884
LightningPoodle

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This is me sharing scotch with THE ENTIRE THREAD -- at least, anyone who wants a shot.

 

You're damn right I want a shot. And another. And 3 more on top of that. Lets just save time and give me the bottle...



#57885
raging_monkey

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This is me sharing scotch with THE ENTIRE THREAD -- at least, anyone who wants a shot.

yes please XD

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Truth be told I hardly ever drink anything other than mead or really stout and dark beer. Probably because I got myself in trouble with everything else back in my younger days. Especially with cheap vodka. Just smelling vodka these days is enough to turn my stomach.  


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#57887
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I should really finish one of the three playthroughs I'm currently in the middle of. I'm going to start getting confused.

 

(hehe "start" as if... oh never mind)



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Have not played DA 2. Should I or is it so bad I shouldn't bother?



#57889
LightningPoodle

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Guys... I'm bored... Can someone tell me a story?  :)



#57890
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Have not played DA 2. Should I or is it so bad I shouldn't bother?

Personally I would recommend it, as well as Legacy as it ties to Inquisition. Plenty of issues with recycled environments and a weak third act, in which case I would also recommend playing Legacy in Act 3, but otherwise I think that this game is a lot of fun and has a great cast, not to mention that it provides some good context for Varric and Cassandra's dynamic.


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#57891
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Have not played DA 2. Should I or is it so bad I shouldn't bother?

It has many well documented problems. I'd put it as the weakest of the three DA games, but I still found plenty to enjoy. Some will tell you that it's an abomination of a game not worthy of anyone's time, but I can't agree with that. You can only really find out for yourself by playing.


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#57892
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It has many well documented problems. I'd put it as the weakest of the three DA games, but I still found plenty to enjoy. Some will tell you that it's an abomination of a game not worthy of anyone's time, but I can't agree with that. You can only really find out for yourself by playing.

 

 

If only for Varric's storytelling style..and how the game is played through his storytelling..that was a great mechanic



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Ohahahaha! Very funny... seven! What will you think of next!? Griffons being rediscovered!?

Well the book "Last Flight" looks back at what happened to the griffons and....

 

 

the eggs have hatched 



#57894
LightningPoodle

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Well the book "Last Flight" looks back at what happened to the griffons and....

 

Good God man! That was 3 days ago! How far are you going back!?



#57895
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Good God man! That was 3 days ago! How far are you going back!?

I only post on weekends

(I don't own a PC and am not allowed to post from work)



#57896
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flycam adventures with my babies. tricky because the facial animation is just their heads mashing together sooo if you look at it from the side it's hilarious. also sera is floating like a foot off the ground in that scene. BUT. i learned 2 things. 

 

one, they are adorable (ok i lied i already knew that)

 

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two, lani adaar is the hero we all would be, as she goes right for dat booty

 

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lol



#57898
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Have not played DA 2. Should I or is it so bad I shouldn't bother?


It has the best combat in the series IMO. And Isabela.

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What's stereotypically straight about that?

 

Seduction is used because seduction works. You need no other motivation than that, and 'making him naked' is hardly something to stop before if you're serious about being shamelessly seductive.

 

To not repeat myself, here are my previous comments explaining my POV, first one strictly about the situation in game:

 

http://forum.bioware...0#entry18396872

 

and this one showing what cultural context in regard to situation of lesbians it's placed in:

 

http://forum.bioware...8#entry18396191

 

I'm sure the context would be completely different if only so many lesbian characters in the media weren't portrayed in such way, as deep down wanting men sexually. But it isn't so, and myths it encourages encourage in turn sexual violence against lesbians, which I am survivor of myself.



#57900
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I only post on weekends

(I don't own a PC and am not allowed to post from work)

 

Oh okay. Sounds exhausting.