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#6176
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I wasn't just talking about the appearance of eyeliner (aka raccoon eyes) though.  I was referring to how Cass looked just like she was wearing dark grey eyeshadow and very dark lipstick.  I know that part of it was the engine that they used for DA2, but it always threw me off.

Ahh, I see. Yeah, to me it always seemed like the lip colour is just a byproduct of darker skin tone and/or shading (you can see her lips also appearing pretty dark in DAI when the light is behind her, kinda the same thing) so I never got the impression she'd be wearing lipstick there. But i see how her appearance could feel weird if you'd view her with one.

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Ahh, I see. Yeah, to me it always seemed like the lip colour is just a byproduct of darker skin tone and/or shading (you can see her lips also appearing pretty dark in DAI when the light is behind her, kinda the same thing) so I never got the impression she'd be wearing lipstick there. But i see how her appearance could feel weird if you'd view her with one.

The first few times, it did make me go, "Oh great, how am I supposed to take her seriously with all this makeup."  After I joined the forums, and find out about the strange and unexpected things various game engines do to shadows, it doesn't bother me as much anymore.  I've seen enough art of her that I know that wasn't what the art team intended.  Just like Varric having red eyes in one of the old trailer screenshots was just an oddity of the engine.  I've gotta say, Frostbite so far seems to be really doing her justice.  She looks much more like I would picture a lovely and seasoned veteran to look.

 

Going back to Sera, and speaking of fashion, ect...I keep imagining Sera protesting so hard if, say, she had to wear a dress for a ball. 

 

 

Vivienne: Hmm, I think this dress would compliment your eyes, dear.   Your hair...goodness.  Well, I've worked with worse, so this isn't as hopeless at it first appears.  Now, as far as the mask, I was thinking of a gazelle theme, since the browns and golds would bring out your natural colors...

 

Sera <mouth taped shut, tied to a chair> : Mmmphf!

 

Vivienne: Now now darling, I wasn't the one that hacked off your hair with a dagger.  By the Maker, whatever were you thinking?  It is a shame too, because your hair and eyes are your best, and possibly only, good features.

 

<Sera looks at Vivienne, her eyes full of daggers.>

 

Vivienne: Be grateful dear.  It isn't every day that a person of zero fashion sense has me as an expert on hand.  For once, you might actually be acceptable enough for public.  Now, about that dress, do you prefer pink?  Or perhaps baby blue?
 

Sera <struggling in her seat>  Umuffmphf!

 

Varric: It could be worse.  You should see what her and Dorian have in store for Solas.

 

Vivienne: That reminds me, Varric...are you really wearing that to the ball?

 

Varric: Rest assured Madame, I know how to clean up for a fancy party.  You seem to have your hands full as it is.

 

<Quizzy walks in, sees Varric making a quick exit, Sera tied to a chair and gagged, and Vivienne looking mighty pleased with herself>

 

Quizzy: What the hell did I miss this time?!?


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Sadly, it only fits my Vashoth to say "The only one who gets to play dress-up with the elf is me."


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Sadly, it only fits my Vashoth to say "The only one who gets to play dress-up with the elf is me."

 

:P

 

How do you anticipate your elven Inquisitor handling Vivienne's invitation to a party thrown in your honor? I'm guessing it's going to be very Orlesian. And if you recruit Sera before then (given what I've heard about her not liking nobles and her likely presence in Orlais), I wonder how she would handle it (if you bring her along, assuming you attend).



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:P

 

How do you anticipate your elven Inquisitor handling Vivienne's invitation to a party thrown in your honor? I'm guessing it's going to be very Orlesian. And if you recruit Sera before then (given what I've heard about her not liking nobles and her likely presence in Orlais), I wonder how she would handle it (if you bring her along, assuming you attend).

If I had the choice, my outfit would be inspired by Fen'Harel; wolf imagery everywhere, though I'd prefer not to wear a mask because I want to show off my vallaslin (the complex Elgar'nan one, so it covers half my face). It's up to any of the Orlesian nobles who bothered to learn anything about Dalish theology to interpret the meaning of that. As for Sera... well, it's unlikely that the romance would begin before then, because my preference there would be to bribe her with later favors in exchange for being on good behavior, but if that's not an option, I'd try to aim for at least trying to ensure that her dress would be designed to be comfortable.



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If I had the choice, my outfit would be inspired by Fen'Harel; wolf imagery everywhere, though I'd prefer not to wear a mask because I want to show off my vallaslin (the complex Elgar'nan one, so it covers half my face). It's up to any of the Orlesian nobles who bothered to learn anything about Dalish theology to interpret the meaning of that. 

 

Has anything official ever been released on the meaning of the particular vallaslin designs?  I know they represent one of the Creators but do we know which one matches up with each Creator?



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Has anything official ever been released on the meaning of the particular vallaslin designs?  I know they represent one of the Creators but do we know which one matches up with each Creator?

To my knowledge, no, but there are some pretty solid fan guesses.



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Has anything official ever been released on the meaning of the particular vallaslin designs?  I know they represent one of the Creators but do we know which one matches up with each Creator?

 

A fan did some work to figure that out (here), based on the Origin designs; I'm hoping the developers provide something official so that the player knows which design corresponds to which Creator for the elven Inquisitor.



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A fan did some work to figure that out (here), based on the Origin designs; I'm hoping the developers provide something official so that the player knows which design corresponds to which Creator for the elven Inquisitor.

 

Oh thanks!

 

I'll have to bookmark that for later.

 

I was thinking of going with Mythal for my Dalish but idk yet.

 

Vivienne: Hmm, I think this dress would compliment your eyes, dear.   You're hair...goodness.  Well, I've worked with worse, so this isn't as hopeless at it first appears.  Now, as far as the mask, I was thinking of a gazelle theme, since the browns and golds would bring out your natural colors...

 

Sera <mouth taped shut, tied to a chair> : Mmmphf!

 

 

Ah, so the reason Sera doesn't talk to Vivienne is that she's typically tied and gagged in her presence.

 

It all makes sense!



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She seems lovely! Hope she doesn't stab my inquisitor in the back

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A fan did some work to figure that out (here), based on the Origin designs; I'm hoping the developers provide something official so that the player knows which design corresponds to which Creator for the elven Inquisitor.

if you take in fen'harrel's(sp) mask in redemption, you have an idea what his would look like. i've used it as a base for felassan's blood writing in my craptacular fan art



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I honestly like DAI Cassandra far more then DA2 Cassandra.
Though to be fair, I dislike most of the faces in DA2.

DA2's engine wasn't nearly as mature as Frostbite. Despite this, I thought they did a decent job with the faces, like Isabela, Merill, and Fenris, to name a few.

 

It's safe to say everyone will look quite different in DA:I thanks to the new engine. Whether they look better or worse though is a matter of personal opinion.


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The thing you should keep in mind about the Vallaslin is that Bioware updated the images in DA 2 so now there's more designs than would be accounted for from an analysis of the DOA options (as impressive as they are). They might not even all be representations of the Dalish Gods.



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Ailith Tycane

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I can kind of see the kinds of armor upgrades other companions will get, but I'm having a hard time imagining what kinds of upgrades Sera could get. Will be interesting to see. 



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I can kind of see the kinds of armor upgrades other companions will get, but I'm having a hard time imagining what kinds of upgrades Sera could get. Will be interesting to see. 

 

You mean like, different outfits?

 

Considering Sera's character kit description, I don't think she'd really ever change her base outfit...maybe add on to that look?



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She just duct tapes metal pots and pans to her current outfit.
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#6192
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Sounds like something Tank girl would do, lol.



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I think they'd get along.

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I expect reskins in Sera's case.



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tumblr_n7yh1xgzRW1swmw1zo1_500.jpg

 

http://ageofthedragon.tumblr.com/

 

Don't know exactly what's going on here but hey!


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#6196
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Sera is tugging the Inquisitor's cheeks while the Inquisitor is tugging Sera's ear lobes.

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Fiery Phoenix

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"Look at you humans and your lovely cheeks..."

 

"Aw, look at those pointy elven ears!"


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#6198
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Man I hope she gets along with Solas. At some point I'm going to run  pointy ear brigade with Sera, Solas, and Iron Bull with my Dalish Inquisitor.



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Man I hope she gets along with Solas. At some point I'm going to run  pointy ear brigade with Sera, Solas, and Iron Bull with my Dalish Inquisitor.

 

Hey, we might find out this week if they reveal the guy finally :P


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I've never seen anyone who backed her up on depersonalizing and attacking Cole.

*raises hand* I did, Cole is a fictional character so her depersonalizing him doesn't offend me at all


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