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#63451
SardaukarElite

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That would apply if the person was a bitter straight man. But she is a lesbian and drew Sera.

 

Okay, I'm confused.

 

 

I think it can get a little unpleasant when people insist on looking for reasons. It doesn't matter whether the question is "she's lgbt because" or "I'm lgbt because", it's probably the wrong question. Like there has to be a reason.

 

I believe there has to be reasons for things, but looking into that question seems to lead to a lot of stupid. I want to say there has to be reason and that should be cool, but, I don't know, people.



#63452
The Loyal Nub

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She loves Sera lol. She even drew her. She just seems to believe that she hates men bc of that reason and that's why she's lesbian.

 

Strange what people come up with! Has the person even played the game? If so how could you not notice that Sera likes Bull and Blackwall, speaks well of Cullen, and has the best banter with Dorian?! 



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Here are the comments, just read the replies from first comment. Not sure if you can see them if you aren't a member in DA.



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My birthday is in a few days. A friend brought me chocolate vodka last night, and another friend is buying me lunch next week :wub:

 

Mmm Chocolate Vodka. That's a good friend. Good time of year for Vodka too! 



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There are hints of dark things in Sera's past, but I was thinking more along the lines of brushes with demons and the abuse of magic, not sexual assault...

 

Also, Rickman is just an awesome bad guy, from Hans Gruber onwards. (Sorry Eirene. I know, German villain played by a Brit, but he does it well...)

 

Edit: I read the comment. There is definitely no point at which she states that she was raped by a man. That is wrong.



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Argh,,.,I just lost some brain cells I needed..and I can never get back...... :lol: 

 

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#63457
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Rickman knows how to use a pause at just the right moment.



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Here are the comments, just read the replies from first comment. Not sure if you can see them if you aren't a member in DA.

 

I saw them. I agree with the point that mods should not attempt to change the orientation given the historical persecution of lgbt people by trying to do just that so as a matter of respect mods should leave that alone. However I haven't, ever, encountered that specific dialogue with Sera. Now it's also true that Bull and Cole have been my least used chars in parties but Blackwall has gotten a fair bit of use from me. Maybe I haven't triggered it? Does it exist? Have others heard this?



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I saw them. I agree with the point that mods should not attempt to change the orientation given the historical persecution of lgbt people by trying to do just that so as a matter of respect mods should leave that alone. However I haven't, ever, encountered that specific dialogue with Sera. Now it's also true that Bull and Cole have been my least used chars in parties but Blackwall has gotten a fair bit of use from me. Maybe I haven't triggered it? Does it exist? Have others heard this?

I only heard it about Cole..maybe he or she is confusing the 2 ? 



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There are hints of dark things in Sera's past, but I was thinking more along the lines of brushes with demons and the abuse of magic, not sexual assault...

 

Also, Rickman is just an awesome bad guy, from Hans Gruber onwards. (Sorry Eirene. I know, German villain played by a Brit, but he does it well...)

 

Edit: I read the comment. There is definitely no point at which she states that she was raped by a man. That is wrong.

 

Her codex mentions the alienage in Denerim so I've always assumed that Sera's trauma occurred there and that her arrival in Orlais was as much a flight from bad memories of Denerim as anything else.



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I only heard it about Cole..maybe he or she is confusing the 2 ? 

 

She might be. I can't speak to it as I have seriously ignored Cole (which I regret and tend to rectify next time).



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There's a banter with Blackwall where she talks about a plan to annoy a noble by coming on to him and letting him down at the last moment for a laugh. Maybe she misunderstood that? I can't think of anything with Bull, and with Tressa I ran with team YOLO for long enough that Dorian and Bull developed their relationship. I've barely had her out with cole, though, so I can't comment on that.

 

 

I'm pretty sure that Cat has listened to all the banter on YouTube, and she never mentioned it. Nah. I really think that the artist has misunderstood something. Is English her first language?



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omg I did, I went over there and read comments. That was wrong of me.



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There's a banter with Blackwall where she talks about a plan to annoy a noble by coming on to him and letting hime down at the last moment for a laugh. Maybe she misunderstood that? I can't think of anything with Bull, and with Tressa I ran with team YOLO for long enough that Dorian and Bull developed their relationship. I've barely had her out with cole, though, so I can't comment on that.

 

 

I'm pretty sure that Cat has listened to all the banter on YouTube, and she never mentioned it. Nah. I really think that the artist has misunderstood something. Is English her first language?

 

You're right Cat would know. All the dialogue is on youtube and I am 100% certain if that conversation existed we'd already have discussed it here. 



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There are hints of dark things in Sera's past, but I was thinking more along the lines of brushes with demons and the abuse of magic, not sexual assault...

 

Yep. Maybe this person confuses this by sexual assault.



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omg I did, I went over there and read comments. That was wrong of me.

 

Same here. My house suddenly went all cold whilst reading it. Bad omens... I need a hug...  :crying:



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Tsk...at this rate ya never grow a Daughzilla spine like ya Momzilla kiddo ! Say no and throw Tantrum ! I allow it ! :lol:


*throws hair over shoulder* never!
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#63468
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*throws hair over shoulder* never!

At this rate ya gonna become a Kleenex..and will fly in the wind.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 



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At this rate ya gonna become a Kleenex..and will fly in the wind.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

... What?



#63470
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It may be worth noting that one of our two visits to the Denerim alienage involved a lord rather casually abducting elven women for what was basically organised rape*, and exactly how illegal that was is not made clear. Combine that with various assumptions our media often makes about women being victimised and I can see someone assuming that Sera was sexually abused simply because she was a poor elf woman in a city.

 

*The more I think about it the more I hate that plot.

 

Also, Rickman is just an awesome bad guy, from Hans Gruber onwards. (Sorry Eirene. I know, German villain played by a Brit, but he does it well...)

 

British Germans are like Hollywood's greatest fear.


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At this rate ya gonna become a Kleenex..and will fly in the wind.... :lol: :lol: :lol:


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It may be worth noting that one of our two visits to the Denerim alienage involved a lord rather casually abducting elven women for what was basically organised rape*, and exactly how illegal that was is not made clear. Combine that with various assumptions our media often makes about women being victimised and I can see someone assuming that Sera was sexually abused simply because she was a poor elf woman in a city.

 

*The more I think about it the more I hate that plot.

That plot has been heavily criticised, and I'm pretty sure that at least one dev has admitted that it was misjudged. I doubt they'd return to it for Sera, especially considering that when she was in Denerim she was a kid, but yeah, maybe the artist made that leap...



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-snip-

 

Ah! It's disgusting! Get it off my screen! 



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*The more I think about it the more I hate that plot.

 

I definitely hate that plot.


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There's a banter with Blackwall where she talks about a plan to annoy a noble by coming on to him and letting him down at the last moment for a laugh. Maybe she misunderstood that? I can't think of anything with Bull, and with Tressa I ran with team YOLO for long enough that Dorian and Bull developed their relationship. I've barely had her out with cole, though, so I can't comment on that.

 

 

I'm pretty sure that Cat has listened to all the banter on YouTube, and she never mentioned it. Nah. I really think that the artist has misunderstood something. Is English her first language?

 

You're right Cat would know. All the dialogue is on youtube and I am 100% certain if that conversation existed we'd already have discussed it here. 

*poof*

 

I did indeed listen to all the banters with Sera, with all the companions, and she never says anything that even hints at the 'rape as backstory' trope. She never says anything about hating being touched by men either.

 

This person who made that comment is drinking a veeeeeeeeeery special brand of cool aid.

 

*poof*


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