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#63951
WildOrchid

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Nothing in any of the dialogue suggests it. Ask the person to provide the actual quote. It's their claim, let them prove it.



I did. Many times in fact. And still get the "it's there you just need to pay attention" and im like what.

You know the person is full of themselves if they can't prove it. Now she tries to blame me for "refusing to see these details"

Classic case. I don't know if i should laugh or cry tbh.

#63952
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And now the Sera thread has the Solas thread beaten, for drama this week.

The person over at DA, still insists that Sera has been sexually assaulted.

I dont know anymore... it's times like these where you need the writer to actually confirm it.

 

Maybe someone should do a private tweet to the writer? And because she is gay apparently that automatically =sexual assault *sigh*



#63953
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I did. Many times in fact. And still get the "it's there you just need to pay attention" and im like what.

 

Refusing to provide the quote is basically the same as giving up, they just aren't admitting it.

 

 

Classic case. I don't know if i should laugh or cry tbh.

 

Laughing is usually more enjoyable.



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I did. Many times in fact. And still get the "it's there you just need to pay attention" and im like what.

You know the person is full of themselves if they can't prove it. Now she tries to blame me for "refusing to see these details"

Classic case. I don't know if i should laugh or cry tbh.

If they won't point out what they are basing themselves on, they probably have nothing solid. It would be great if we got word of God (Lukas, in this case) on the matter...



#63955
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I'm still waiting.
And I love how this person told me that I somewhat implied that if Sera has been raped, that would make her less awesome... I can't, she clearly tries to assume a lot of things, it's so tragic and laughable.

She also says many ppl have seen the rape mention. Wow.

Would be neat for the writer to stop by and put those claims to the rest.
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#63956
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I'm still waiting.
And I love how this person told me that I somewhat implied that if Sera has been raped, that would make her less awesome... I can't, she clearly tries to assume a lot of things, it's so tragic and laughable.

She also says many ppl have seen the rape mention. Wow.

Would be neat for the writer to stop by and put those claims to the rest.

I don't know what they're drinking, but I'm sure it's illegal. :D


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#63957
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Would be neat for the writer to stop by and put those claims to the rest.

 

If they aren't prepared to explain what they're basing this off I don't think a writer should bother.



#63958
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Okay! Belay that last post. Don't vote. Or do, if you want me to go. But I don't want to go and it's a petty way of dealing with this. I know I did wrong but please guys, understand that flirting is no longer an intention of mine at all but if it does come across as that, do tell me - preferably in a civil manner. I need to learn what is and what isn't as much as possible and I'm not going to learn that by arguing.

 

Again, sorry for any upset. Can you, will you guys forgive and forget?


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I'm still waiting.
And I love how this person told me that I somewhat implied that if Sera has been raped, that would make her less awesome... I can't, she clearly tries to assume a lot of things, it's so tragic and laughable.

She also says many ppl have seen the rape mention. Wow.

Would be neat for the writer to stop by and put those claims to the rest.

 

Seeing things that aren't there? I'm sure there's a name for that.

 

Hallucinations. Paranoia, if certain conditions are met.

 

I don't know what they're drinking, but I'm sure it's illegal. :D

 

I agree. Whatever that stuff is - I want it.



#63960
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If they aren't prepared to explain what they're basing this off I don't think a writer should bother.



True.. but at least it would calm this person's mind?

For something so serious as this, I'd expect at least some proofs and yet got nothing...

Almost sounds like this person wants to believe she's been sexually assaulted so that will feel she relates to her.

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I did. Many times in fact. And still get the "it's there you just need to pay attention" and im like what.

You know the person is full of themselves if they can't prove it. Now she tries to blame me for "refusing to see these details"

Classic case. I don't know if i should laugh or cry tbh.

 

I think she assumed too much which judging from what she wrote recently was influenced by her own life experiences, and now feels that if she admits she was wrong she would look like a fool so she became confrontational, but I don't think you treat her completely fair either.

 

Like I noticed before, nowhere she said Sera's gay because of being rape survivor and that's what you claimed that artist said. Many lesbians really are rape survivors because many women in general are rape survivors. If that made women gay, there should be a lot more lesbians in the world than those few percents.


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#63962
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This is person is clearly wrong. But I wonder at the worth of continuing to pick at her. When someone clings to a delusion so strongly as she does there may be a psychological motivation. I would worry about picking at someone who maybe has been a victim and whose trauma might be intensified by heated argument along these lines. Just throwing a note of caution out there. Sometimes the fight just is not worth it even when you're right. Plus how many people could she really influence with this in the long run?



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I think she assumed too much which judging from what she wrote recently was influenced by her own life experiences, and now feels that if she admits she was wrong she would look like a fool so she became confrontational, but I don't think you treat her completely fair either.

 

Like I noticed before, nowhere she said Sera's gay because of being rape survivor and that's what you claimed that artist said. Many lesbians really are rape survivors because many women in general are rape survivors. If that made women gay, there should be a lot more lesbians in the world than those few percents.

 

How should i possibly treat her, where she resorted to insults on how "i ignore the problem"? I simply asked her to provide some quotes.

 

The first good thing would be to admit she's been wrong. Hell, if she provides me some quotes that actually show her claims, i'll back out and tell her sorry instead. I'm all for getting corrected.

Besides, I never call people idiots for admitting their errors, in fact I would call that smart action.

Now, she doesn't help it by insulting me for asking proof.

 

I've been wrong with the "man's touch" she said, i completely misunderstood because i've heard so many times from people who actually said that the only way for a woman to become a lesbian is to be sexually assaulted by a man. Hence my (wrong now) assumption on this.


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How should i possibly treat her, where she resorted to insults on how "i ignore the problem"? I simply asked her to provide some quotes.

 

It's not worth it, aye?



#63965
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I sent her a personal message to peacefully stop the whole discussion. It's for the best. :)

 

Edit: saying that i'm bowing out from the discussion because i don't want this thing to get more heated.


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I've been wrong with the "man's touch" she said, i completely misunderstood because i've heard so many times from people who actually said that the only way for a woman to become a lesbian is to be sexually assaulted by a man. Hence my (wrong now) assumption on this.

I've seen this notion floating around more times than I care to mention. While it's true that some lesbians may have had sexual experience with men at some point in their lives, some people tend to assume that experience was a form of sexual assault and unfailingly associate it with the fact that these women are lesbians, as if the women just decided to make themselves lesbians because of this. Worse yet, there's usually little you can do to convince them otherwise.

 

I think that person is clearly too far gone, Orchid. I wouldn't waste any more of your time with her.



#63967
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Morning ya'll

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Morning monkey.

 

We are anxiously awaiting Assassin's breakdown of her templar mission.



#63969
raging_monkey

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Morning monkey.
 
We are anxiously awaiting Assassin's breakdown of her templar mission.

ah i see

#63970
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Templar mission, you say?

 

Have a Sera pic from there.

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"Kneel before the Inquisition, losers!"

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#63971
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Yo...

 

*mop the thread* Man..so much stuff happen when ya are away.......*whine* and I get to do the clean up....

 

Hey notice how both mage&templar stop whining if conscripted ? 


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#63972
raging_monkey

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Yo...
 
*mop the thread* Man..so much stuff happen when ya are away.......*whine* and I get to do the clean up....
 
Hey notice how both mage&templar stop whining if conscripted ?

yeah but when i pay for their stuff its all sunshine. But if i ally they whine.lol

And yeah dont leave us alone XD

#63973
AlexiaRevan

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Cant be helped....I'm playing with Burritos ! and Shinie  :lol: They keeping me busy  :P



#63974
raging_monkey

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Cant be helped....I'm playing with Burritos ! and Shinie  :lol: They keeping me busy  :P

then prepare to mop lol.

#63975
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then prepare to mop lol.

No..more like prepare to throw it at someone else ! *throw mop* catch catch catch!  :lol: