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[Lady Luminous]

So the win..is when its normal...dont make a big deal out of it ? 

 

I personally dont care about the 'being represented' stuff . All I want is 2 thing: Let me be a women and let me kiss one as well . I dont need the smoochable Lady to represent me....

The one I'm play is suspposed to represent me....

 

Anyway..is Monkey on ? I need him noooooooooooow

 

Yeah, exactly. I like that's just another aspect of them. If they like kissing ladies or dudes, who cares. As long as they're a cool/interesting person that's great.  

 

I haven't seen Monkey yet, sorry. 

[AlexiaRevan]

Yeah, exactly. I like that's just another aspect of them. If they like kissing ladies or dudes, who cares. As long as they're a cool/interesting person that's great.

 

I haven't seen Monkey yet, sorry. 

Hum..

 

but often its the 'others' who make a big deal out of it . And due to alot of bad stuff....representation is needed . 

 

Kinda like.....anything else . 

[Lady Luminous]

Hum..

 

but often its the 'others' who make a big deal out of it . And due to alot of bad stuff....representation is needed . 

 

Kinda like.....anything else . 

 

Oh absolutely. I mean, understanding won't come about if they're not represented. But I just think it would be a better arc if it was a secondary characteristic so that people get to know them as people instead of the token lesbian or gay. 

 

Actually that's one thing I really like about Dorian. He definitely seems gay, but a female can flirt with him and it's reciprocated. So after you meet his dad you can accuse Dorian of leading you on. 

[wintery]

I have a lot of feelings about how negative stereotypes in media affect people's lives, often in devastating ways, but my trying to write about that right now isn't going well. A lot of people say it better than I do.

[KaiserShep]

Actually that's one thing I really like about Dorian. He definitely seems gay, but a female can flirt with him and it's reciprocated. So after you meet his dad you can accuse Dorian of leading you on. 

Yeah, my Inquisitor continues to flirt with him, and it all seems like it's mutually good fun, which I find makes for an enjoyable dynamic between the two. It's funny when he tells her "I do rather enjoy watching you leave" when you exit the conversation.

[wintery]

This times 1000. Mostly because it shouldn't be an issue in the first place. 

 

It shouldn't be an issue, but it is. It's not just academic, not just "Oh I wish this character were more positive because that would be nice"...  it's "I wish there were more positive representations in media because maybe less people would be assaulted or killed"

 

But maybe I shouldn't get started.

[Lady Luminous]

Yeah, my Inquisitor continues to flirt with him, and it all seems like it's mutually good fun, which I find makes for an enjoyable dynamic between the two. It's funny when he tells her "I do rather enjoy watching you leave" when you exit the conversation.

 

For the longest time I was like "does he not like me?! *angst" Because we were on slightly cool terms and I was female. I was taking it as "He's happy to see me go because I'm bothering him." 

[Duelist]

But maybe I shouldn't get started.

Seriously, you'll get no judgement here.

[CrimsonN7]

 

To throw a question out to anyone who wants to answer, though your answer would be especially appreciated, did Sera succeed as a realistic lesbian character?  I know you had concerns about her Iron Bull quanari line being taken by the game playing audience to indicate that she might not be exclusively interested in women, but taken as a whole did she succeed as an accurate portrayal of a lesbian character?

 

 

What line is that?

 

To the question, I dunno how to answer that. Gay women are diverse, people are diverse we are diverse people each will have different life experiences, I'm not gonna speak for lesbians as a whole, my experiences won't be the same as others.

[AresKeith]

What line is that?

 

To the question, I dunno how to answer that. Gay women are diverse, people are diverse we are diverse people each will have different life experiences, I'm not gonna speak for lesbians as a whole, my experiences won't be the same as others.

 

I think it was that line when Sera says Iron Bull makes her thing about "stuff"

[Serza]

Oh you should go for it!

 

Singing, or playing dress up? Not singing around here, ever.

Playing dress up, though... I already have what might be either AOR1 or desert MARPAT, I can't quite tell.

Just pants, though. Fat lot of use in central Europe, you imagine, being a desert pattern...

AOR2's would be much, much better... (Also, the only AOR2, fake or not, I can find around here seems to be a dedicated combat uniform, so wearing that on a regular day out is also out of the question...)

 

*fires revolver at your feet*

 

Sing boy, sing!

 

*spits into a bucket*

 

*pulls a P226*

How 'bout we dance, instead?

 

So the win..is when its normal...dont make a big deal out of it ? 

 

I personally dont care about the 'being represented' stuff . All I want is 2 thing: Let me be a women and let me kiss one as well . I dont need the smoochable Lady to represent me....

The one I'm play is suspposed to represent me....

 

Anyway..is Monkey on ? I need him noooooooooooow

 

Is it something you need Monkey's paws for, specifically, or does someone else stand a chance of helping you?

[CrimsonN7]

I think it was that line when Sera says Iron Bull makes her thing about "stuff"

 

And that was believed by some that she may be interested in men, I don't even.

[Serza]

Also, look, 2600 worth of pages! Yay!

[Duelist]

And that was believed by some that she may be interested in men, I don't even.

Especially since she specifically mentions it makes her wonder about Qunari women.

[Kalliane]

It shouldn't be an issue, but it is. It's not just academic, not just "Oh I wish this character were more positive because that would be nice"...  it's "I wish there were more positive representations in media because maybe less people would be assaulted or killed"

 

But maybe I shouldn't get started.

I'm sorry, wintery.  I didn't mean to make you unhappy or think about horrible things.  I was hoping to avoid any distress by asking for positive examples of lesbian portrayals.

 

I'll try to start.  I really enjoyed "Women Destroy Science Fiction"  and have high hopes for "Queers Destroy Science Fiction" as well.  I don't watch much tv and can't afford a lot of movies so I don't have anything from those groups.

[WildOrchid]

I know you had concerns about her Iron Bull quanari line being taken by the game playing audience to indicate that she might not be exclusively interested in women

 

That line was about IB making her wonder about things.

How qunari women look like. Nothing "suspricious" about this particular line.

 

 

 

Also IMO, Sera is great the way she is. Talks about women, mostly qunari women and how they fascinate her. Only a daft ****** would think she's straight since she talks about women only.

 

 

 

Edit: T!t is censored? Really?

[Lady Luminous]

Singing, or playing dress up? Not singing around here, ever.

 

 

Awww, c'mon Serz. I sang!

[Lady Luminous]

That line was about IB making her wonder about things.

How qunari women look like. Nothing "suspricious" about this particular line.

 

 

 

Also IMO, Sera is great the way she is. Talks about women, mostly qunari women and how they fascinate her. Only a daft ****** would think she's straight since she talks about women only.

 

 

 

Edit: T!t is censored? Really?

 

It bothers me too. Damned censorship!

[Serza]

Awww, c'mon Serz. I sang!

 

You CAN sing!

[wintery]

I'm sorry, wintery.  I didn't mean to make you unhappy or think about horrible things.  I was hoping to avoid any distress by asking for positive examples of lesbian portrayals.

 

I'll try to start.  I really enjoyed "Women Destroy Science Fiction"  and have high hopes for "Queers Destroy Science Fiction" as well.  I don't watch much tv and can't afford a lot of movies so I don't have anything from those groups.

 

It's not a problem, I was just having trouble putting words together I still am.

 

There are a lot of interesting discussions going on right now among fantasy authors about diverse books, and people looking for stories about a variety of experiences.

[KaiserShep]

For the longest time I was like "does he not like me?! *angst" Because we were on slightly cool terms and I was female. I was taking it as "He's happy to see me go because I'm bothering him." 

For a character like Dorian, I would expect him to be a bit more subtle if he's glad for you to leave.

 

That line was about IB making her wonder about things.

How qunari women look like. Nothing "suspricious" about this particular line.

 

 

 

Also IMO, Sera is great the way she is. Talks about women, mostly qunari women and how they fascinate her. Only a daft ****** would think she's straight since she talks about women only.

 

 

 

Edit: T!t is censored? Really?

 

It's funny because it's a hard to miss part of that conversation. In banter (provided you're not a victim of the bug), she will ask Bull about qunari women as well.

 

Anyway, this censoring makes birds sad.

 

[AresKeith]

Edit: T!t is censored? Really?

 

IRK, of all the words that one?? 

[WildOrchid]

I forgot to mention, my only problem with Sera is that she's the only one who can get kicked out anytime. The excuse that "she can be annoying" is weak as hell because this is completely subjective. For me, Sera is not annoying, not even in the slightest.