Agreed.
I also watch Pretty Little Liars and one of the girls is lesbian. And while I really dislike her (she's just really whiny and uber-innocent) I've gotten to know her as a person throughout the show and she doesn't feel at all like she was written as a lesbian to meet quota.
Emily? But the treatment of her sexuality was exactly the opposite of how Sera has been treated in this regard. They didn't shy away from showing the issues she as a lesbian teen had to deal with.
I thought Varric can leave if you have low approval with him already and you choose to allow Hawke to stay in the Fade? No?
Latest playthrough for science I brought Cass and Varric along with me, left Hawke in the Fade and oh man Varric actually made me feel really bad for doing that. That is quite a feat, I really don't care about Hawke, where's Hawke? *doesn't answer* where's Hawke? *well sh*t now I feel bad*
Emily? But the treatment of her sexuality was exactly the opposite of how Sera has been treated in this regard. They didn't shy away from showing the issues she as a lesbian teen had to deal with.
I'm not doing a compaison to Sera though. I just think the PLL writers did well with Emily.
Sorry, probably not maknig much sense. I'm on a bunch of cold medicine right now. 
Latest playthrough for science I brought Cass and Varric along with me, left Hawke in the Fade and oh man Varric actually made me feel really bad for doing that. That is quite a feat, I really don't care about Hawke, where's Hawke *doesn't answer* where's Hawke *well sh*t now I feel bad*
I've been too scared to leave Hawke in the Fade both campaigns. Just scared of the eventual Varric moment. Yeah to heck with it...sorry Stroud but it's curtains for ya!
I thought Varric can leave if you have low approval with him already and you choose to allow Hawke to stay in the Fade? No?
Varric can't leave. You need to be able to have a full party.
A lot of people got confused with this because of the way a trailer was edited. The narrator said companions can leave, whilst showing a Varric walking away from the The Inquisitor. Those that believe this is the scene where he leaves seem to forget the scene immediately after taking Skyhold and Varric telling you about his "friend."
Emily? But the treatment of her sexuality was exactly the opposite of how Sera has been treated in this regard. They didn't shy away from showing the issues she as a lesbian teen had to deal with.
They didn't shy away from it with Sera because she didn't have to deal with it
I'm a turrible gay.
In that case, we'll need to work on your Irishness.
I'll place an order to your local Guinness distributor.
Varric can't leave. You need to be able to have a full party.
A lot of people got confused with this because of the way a trailer was edited. The narrator said companions can leave, whilst showing a Varric walking away from the The Inquisitor. Those that believe this is the scene where he leaves seem to forget the scene immediately after taking Skyhold and Varric telling you about his "friend."
You have 9 companions and can venture out without a full party. Why can't Varric leave after Abyss?
You have 9 companions and can venture out without a full party. Why can't Varric leave after Abyss?
If Varric could leave, I don't think he should automatically leave after that. Maybe if he had really low approval already they I can see it
Honestly, the reason why we didn't see Sera's romance arc really delve into LGBT issues is likely because Dorian's already mined that topic and Bioware didn't want to do a repeat in Sera's. Furthermore, Sera is a very..... direct character who would probably treat moments of homophobia in her life (which would most likely be little since this is Thedas) with the following actions. Shoot arrows at homophobic individual(s) and then forgot about homophobic individual(s). That's basically how I see her treating such problems and I seriously doubt that she would continue to think about them or let them affect her for very long, let allow talk about them. Dorian on the other would be affected by such things and it would become a significant part of his character and motivations. For Sera though, not so much, and I personally think that's fine that she refuses to be bothered by such things, its part of her character and makes sense.
So, yeah, that's my $0.02.
Varric can't leave. You need to be able to have a full party.
A lot of people got confused with this because of the way a trailer was edited. The narrator said companions can leave, whilst showing a Varric walking away from the The Inquisitor. Those that believe this is the scene where he leaves seem to forget the scene immediately after taking Skyhold and Varric telling you about his "friend."
Ok that was probably what fooled me however I doubt you really need Varric after the Fade which should occur after you've already reached Skyhold and recruited Sera (whose a better rogue option than he is anyway) and Cole. So if Varric did leave it would be a sad moment but not party breaking by any stretch.
If Varric could leave, I don't think he should automatically leave after that. Maybe if he had really low approval already they I can see it
Yeah, I'm just saying that would make sense if he could leave beyond that point but say not before Skyhold.
You have 9 companions and can venture out without a full party. Why can't Varric leave after Abyss?
Have any of you left Skyhold without a full party for curiosity? I haven't done this yet, didn't know it was possible.
Ok that was probably what fooled me however I doubt you really need Varric after the Fade which should occur after you've already reached Skyhold and recruited Sera (whose a better rogue option than he is anyway) and Cole. So if Varric did leave it would be a sad moment but not party breaking by any stretch.
You can choose not to recruit those two though. In order to get the fullest, most minimal experience (sounds weird...) you need to have a rogue, warrior and mage. Cass, Solas and Varric are all critical to the story and fit these 3 roles. It is likely just to make it easier in case you miss opportunities to recruit and other characters like Dorian and Cole are chosen not to join.
Have any of you left Skyhold without a full party for curiosity? I haven't done this yet, didn't know it was possible.
I seem to recall a developer (Laidlaw or one of those video hype cats) saying you could opt to do that. I haven't. I think it would be really tough. Besides some missions require a rogue or mage to complete. Be interesting to read if anyone has tried it and what the results were?
Have any of you left Skyhold without a full party for curiosity? I haven't done this yet, didn't know it was possible.
I've gone solo when I went farming for schematics. They were just getting in the way. 
Have any of you left Skyhold without a full party for curiosity? I haven't done this yet, didn't know it was possible.
Mhm, I do it for Dorian's quest everytime. Since I can just fast travel to Redcliffe I feel like Dorian doesn't need an audience to witness his family issues.
I also do it for Sera's verchiel march, because I feel like it should be just us going to pick-up the loot - what could go wrong?
Mhm, I do it for Dorian's quest everytime. Since I can just fast travel to Redcliffe I feel like Dorian doesn't need an audience to witness his family issues.
I also do it for Sera's verchiel march, because I feel like it should be just us going to pick-up the loot - what could go wrong?
Do your companions follow you in because I never saw them in any video on Dorian's personal quest?
You can choose not to recruit those two though. In order to get the fullest, most minimal experience (sounds weird...) you need to have a rogue, warrior and mage. Cass, Solas and Varric are all critical to the story and fit these 3 roles. It is likely just to make it easier in case you miss opportunities to recruit and other characters like Dorian and Cole are chosen not to join.
No you're missing the point. At the beginning when you reach Haven you need Varric, Solas and Cass cause that is all you have but later at Skyhold, and assuming you've recruited all the other chars, Varric is not indispensable the way Solas or Cassandra are. Varric's absence after Skyhold would be no big deal narrative-wise.
Do your companions follow you in because I never saw them in any video on Dorian's personal quest?
No, because I travel without any companions. So just Dorian and I walk into the tavern.
No you're missing the point. At the beginning when you reach Haven you need Varric, Solas and Cass cause that is all you have but later at Skyhold, and assuming you've recruited all the other chars, Varric is not indispensable the way Solas or Cassandra are. Varric's absence after Skyhold would be no big deal narrative-wise.
Actually he has a point. It's BioWare protecting the player from themselves if there's always a rogue/warrior/mage kicking around Skyhold who you can't get rid of.
Varric can't leave. You need to be able to have a full party.
A lot of people got confused with this because of the way a trailer was edited. The narrator said companions can leave, whilst showing a Varric walking away from the The Inquisitor. Those that believe this is the scene where he leaves seem to forget the scene immediately after taking Skyhold and Varric telling you about his "friend."
You never actually need a full party. The only time you actually need a class other than your own is when trying to access optional content, like lighting veilfire torches if you're not a mage, or unlocking doors for rogues and kicking through walls for warriors. None of these things are ever essential to complete the main story, however. The only time Varric is ever essential to the story is when he contacts Hawke, but after that, his purpose is fulfilled and the story can go on without him.
For Dorian's quest, I went only with him and no others. Seemed to make sense that way. For Sera's Verchiel quest, I only took her and it was just the two of them fighting through the ambush. I thought it was more fun this way.
For the final battle against Corypheus, I actually solo'd this with my Knight-Enchanter, because I liked the idea that Corypheus scooped her up and separated the entire group, forcing her to fight against the monster on her own. It made her descent after her victory seem more heroic, not to mention it better explains why your companions are suddenly nowhere to be found after the orb is destroyed.
No you're missing the point. At the beginning when you reach Haven you need Varric, Solas and Cass cause that is all you have but later at Skyhold, and assuming you've recruited all the other chars, Varric is not indispensable the way Solas or Cassandra are. Varric's absence after Skyhold would be no big deal narrative-wise.
That's assuming. If you didn't allow the other rogues to join, and Varric disapproved enough to leave, you would be stuck without a rogue.
Actually he has a point. It's BioWare protecting the player from themselves if there's always a rogue/warrior/mage kicking around Skyhold who you can't get rid of.
No cause Varric is only critical to the story before Skyhold. After Skyhold he really isn't useful unless you like him enough to use him a lot. But he isn't. If he left after the Fade part of the story what do you lose? At that point nothing if you have Sera and Cole already.
You never actually need a full party. The only time you actually need a class other than your own is when trying to access optional content, like lighting veilfire torches if you're not a mage, or unlocking doors for rogues and kicking through walls for warriors. None of these things are ever essential to complete the main story, however. The only time Varric is ever essential to the story is when he contacts Hawke, but after that, his purpose is fulfilled and the story can go on without him.
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